Key bindings on non US keyboards

[Noisemaker]

Hi all, after watching tons of videos on youtube I decided to take the dive back into flight sims and IL-2 BoX in particular.  The last time I flew flight sims was back in the EAW/Falcon 3 days.  At that time I was still back in my home country of Canada.  I am now in Switzerland, and obviously the keyboard layout is completely different (No tilda for example, QWERTZ instead of QWERTY, and Umlauts!).

I was wondering how other players in the Euro world (and specifically Switzerland, if there are any) deal with the different keyboard layout.  Do you personally assign controls arbitrarily, or are there any templates for non US QWERTY keyboards?

Any help would be appreciated!

[spitfirejoe]

I have the same Problem here in Germany.

 

I did order a QWERTZ keyboard today in the hope that helps. My TARGET Software for my warthog HOTAS does activate "wrong keys" because of my german keyboard. I wish to know aswell how others do.

[spitfirejoe]

Today I got the new Keyboard, but AMAZON sent me a wrong one, I got an italian Keyboard. So I sent it back to change it to a US layout,

 

Did you try to change the language from German to English inside Windows 10? Maybe that helps. At least I have the feeling something changed to the better since I changed my Windows 10 from German to English.

 

Which Controller or Joystick do you use? I use Thrustmaster warthog HOTAS and I have trouble with the TARGET Software with IL-2.

[spitfirejoe]

Now I can confirm that the key mapping controls of IL-2 work for me, AFTER I got the new english layout Keyboard and changed the language in my Windows 10 from german to US english.

[Noisemaker]

I run Win7 in English (As it's my native language) but have.a Swiss keyboard as I sometimes have to write in German or French and have all the Umlauts and accents available.  I had a US template open on another screen to try and match bindings visually, but it appears there are still some discrepancies.  I'm hoping one of our Swiss colleagues will chime in (I've seen at least 2 from Bern) with help, but so far no interest.  Bärner sie immer so langsam... 

[THERION]

28 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

I run Win7 in English (As it's my native language) but have.a Swiss keyboard as I sometimes have to write in German or French and have all the Umlauts and accents available.  I had a US template open on another screen to try and match bindings visually, but it appears there are still some discrepancies.  I'm hoping one of our Swiss colleagues will chime in (I've seen at least 2 from Bern) with help, but so far no interest.  Bärner sie immer so langsam... 

 

Jiu, das stimmt ächlei - nume nid g'sprängt, gäu?

 

Now, coming back to your problem. I have a Swiss keyboard layout as you have, because I too need it for German and mostly French. BUT, flight simulations

for me are like the holy grail and therefore I allways use the native language of the game so to speak. I run IL2GB in English and I use English as input language

in Windows (which is EN version too). That's it. And everything works perfectly, I don't have to mess around with keyboard layouts etc.

 

Tschou zäme

[Noisemaker]

33 minutes ago, -=-THERION said:

 

Jiu, das stimmt ächlei - nume nid g'sprängt, gäu?

 

Now, coming back to your problem. I have a Swiss keyboard layout as you have, because I too need it for German and mostly French. BUT, flight simulations

for me are like the holy grail and therefore I allways use the native language of the game so to speak. I run IL2GB in English and I use English as input language

in Windows (which is EN version too). That's it. And everything works perfectly, I don't have to mess around with keyboard layouts etc.

 

Tschou zäme

Well I found the tilda key by comparing it to the US keyboard layout (§ on the Swiss), but the brake key /, which is _ on a Swiss keyboard didn't do anything until I bound it to a joystick button.  Honestly, given how long this game takes to load, I'm not really keen on pressing random buttons to find out what they do mid flight (or attempting to land after downing three planes only to end up a burning wreck on the tarmac) until I can map out where all the functions are!  So, as we both use Swiss keyboards, with English as input language on an English Windows (Respect, by the way.  I work in Bern and know the struggle many Bärner have with English as a default language even in the technical branches unlike us Baslern ), what key do you use as brakes (full), or for squadron commands?  Maybe I have to recheck my settings.

Merci viu mau im vorus!

[THERION]

6 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

Well I found the tilda key by comparing it to the US keyboard layout (§ on the Swiss), but the brake key /, which is _ on a Swiss keyboard didn't do anything until I bound it to a joystick button.  Honestly, given how long this game takes to load, I'm not really keen on pressing random buttons to find out what they do mid flight (or attempting to land after downing three planes only to end up a burning wreck on the tarmac) until I can map out where all the functions are!  So, as we both use Swiss keyboards, with English as input language on an English Windows (Respect, by the way.  I work in Bern and know the struggle many Bärner have with English as a default language even in the technical branches unlike us Baslern ), what key do you use as brakes (full), or for squadron commands?  Maybe I have to recheck my settings.

Merci viu mau im vorus!

 

Quick answer from a quick Berner Oberländer - I use rudder pedals with brakes. And I don't use the squadron commands because I mainly fly online or if in

single player then I like scripted campaigns. The only command I have is for the gunner to engage enemies only at short distance. That's about it.

 

Btw. Basler/Berner etc. - I tell you something, is far worse than you might think what I'm concerned:

 

- I was born in Zurich, but no, I'm not a "Zürihegu" nor a "Ziegu". I'm a Bernese Oberlander to 50%.

- the other 50% are French (Puteaux, Paris), so I'm half a frog.

 

Cheerio

[Noisemaker]

9 minutes ago, -=-THERION said:

 

Quick answer from a quick Berner Oberländer - I use rudder pedals with brakes. And I don't use the squadron commands because I mainly fly online or if in

single player then I like scripted campaigns. The only command I have is for the gunner to engage enemies only at short distance. That's about it.

 

Btw. Basler/Berner etc. - I tell you something, is far worse than you might think what I'm concerned:

 

- I was born in Zurich, but no, I'm not a "Zürihegu" nor a "Ziegu". I'm a Bernese Oberlander to 50%.

- the other 50% are French (Puteaux, Paris), so I'm half a frog.

 

Cheerio

Well I'm glad you don't consider yourself a Zürihegu, because then we definitely couldn't be friends.  ?

Separate rudders and throttle are the next purchases after a GPU upgrade. 

Gopfverdammi, this is exactly why I haven't played flight sims for 15 years...  Now I'm back in it and dealing with the language (keyboard) barrier on top of the (re-) learning curve...

Loving it, nichtsdestrotrotz!

Au fait, je suis Canadien donc je parle aussie un peu le Frainçais.  Mais pas bien.  Tabernac.