The Arado 234 in Normandie

[namhee2]

I have a book today about the Arado 234, in Normandy in 1944. It is a very detailed book about the use of the Arado234 in Normandy. The pilots were Lieutenant Erich Summer and Captain Horst Götz. The home base was in Juvincourt, north of Reims. I looked at the Normandy map again .... I'm afraid the map is too short for the Arado 234 or wasn't there an improved version? To the developers: please remember: not to forget an airfield for the Arado on the map on the far right. It would be nice if I could write very original missions, I have all the data now.

[CountZero]

Its more of airplane to be used in BoBp as its hard to belive it will be early version used in Normandy and like you can see home base is not on proposed map and hard to belive it will be added as whole of Paris would have to be added then also. So to my understanding if you look at BoN and Bobp as one 2 part DLC and airplanes that can fit both in most cases it all fit.

[namhee2]

9 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Its more of airplane to be used in BoBp as its hard to belive it will be early version used in Normandy and like you can see home base is not on proposed map and hard to belive it will be added as whole of Paris would have to be added then also. So to my understanding if you look at BoN and Bobp as one 2 part DLC and airplanes that can fit both in most cases it all fit.

I wait until the pandemic has calmed down, then I can get this book:

[sevenless]

It is the same problem with the Me 262s of Kdo. Schenk (3./KG 51). They first flew from Chateaudun (west of Orleans) and then moved to Creil and Juvincourt (near Reims) and then to Chievres (near Brussels).

 

The Arados over Normandy were the V5 and V7 planes with skids and without landing gear. I hope we get the B2 version which operated with III./KG 76 from Muenster-Hahndorf and Achmer from 19th December onwards. Would be a little "history fudging" necessary to have the B2 in Normandy but nevertheless a great additional collector plane both to BoN and BoBP.

1 hour ago, namhee2 said:

I wait until the pandemic has calmed down, then I can get this book:

 

 

I have it. If you know Jan Horns books you know what is waiting for you.

 

You should consider getting this also if you are interested in Jets:

 

 

And order from Zinnfigur Berlin or Christian Schmidt or Sound Bücher Modellbau to avoid silly prizes as per amazon.

 

And of course on Arado 234 you might want to check this in June:

 

https://www.chandospublications.co.uk/new-arado-234-book-expected-2020/

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by sevenless

[BlackSix]

We plan to create Ar 234 B-2 and of course this modification will be mainly intended for the BoBP career (Einsatzstaffel 234, II. and III./KG 76).

But since this plane is included in BoN we must add it to the Normandy career. We plan to do this: the Juvincourt airfield will not be on the map, so most likely the Sonderkommando Götz will be based in Beauvais-Tille or Poix / Nord. As we'll not have V5 and V7 planes this unit will use B-2 and it will be unhistoric unit like FW 109 A-3 unit in BoS or MC.202 in BOM.

[Avimimus]

6 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

We plan to create Ar 234 B-2 and of course this modification will be mainly intended for the BoBP career (Einsatzstaffel 234, II. and III./KG 76).

But since this plane is included in BoN we must add it to the Normandy career. We plan to do this: the Juvincourt airfield will not be on the map, so most likely the Sonderkommando Götz will be based in Beauvais-Tille or Poix / Nord. As we'll not have V5 and V7 planes this unit will use B-2 and it will be unhistoric unit like FW 109 A-3 unit in BoS or MC.202 in BOM.

 

Very interesting... I suppose it is early to ask... but will there be an option to delete the fixed reward firing guns to save weight (as was apparently common historically)? Also, is there any chance of the fixed forward firing gunpod (shrouded WB-151 on the main fuselauge hardpoint)? This was likely only used by one or two aircraft if at all (and later one or two nightfighter conversions) - but given how the design studies for the aircraft, the armed recon C variants, and the follow-up successors all had an option for a fixed forward firing armament... it would be very interesting to try. It would also give us another option for chasing Mosquitoes.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Avimimus

[BlackSix]

Unfortunately I can't answer, such questions are not my area of responsibility.

[Reggie_Mental]

The 234 is a fascinating aircraft. It had an automatic computing bombsight IIRC and can accurately bomb at high speed and low levels.

 

In the recon roles, I believe they were still flying photo-recce over SE England in March 1945 (what for?) and they even took a picture of the house I grew up in near RAF Kenley. You can view these images on google maps satellite  overlay by using the timeline function. Seriously..?

[ER*Wumme]

I agree...  fascinating model . 

" upgrade" from Ju 88 to Arado 234 will give us a little chance to escape from Mustangs, Typhoons , Jak 9 s etc. 

[FeuerFliegen]

On 11/6/2021 at 7:32 AM, ER*Wumme said:

Jak 9 s etc. 

 

Can't wait until we get the Jac-9 collector planes! 

[jeanba]

Will we have recon missions in the arado career ?

[Jaws2002]

On 4/14/2020 at 2:32 PM, Avimimus said:

Also, is there any chance of the fixed forward firing gunpod (shrouded WB-151 on the main fuselauge hardpoint)?

 

The forward firing gun pod was shown in development update  #298.

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by Jaws2002

[sevenless]

On 12/18/2021 at 2:26 PM, jeanba said:

Will we have recon missions in the arado career ?

 

I´m pretty confident about that, because that was the only thing the both prototype Arados were doing in Normandy.

[PatrickAWlson]

What was the operational tempo of the Arados?  Did they fly every day or was their use rare?

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

What was the operational tempo of the Arados?  Did they fly every day or was their use rare?

 

In terms of bombing operations, I think it was every couple of days, more or less. 

[Reggie_Mental]

Really looking forward to flying strike bombing missions at low level and high speed. The Ludendorff Bridge attack at Remagen would be fun!

Edited December 22, 2021 by Reggie_Mental
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[sevenless]

8 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

What was the operational tempo of the Arados?  Did they fly every day or was their use rare?

 

They flew frequently 2 missions per day, every day if weather allowed. 1st operational sortie was 24th December 10:14h with 9 machines target train station Liege, 2nd sortie was 14:52h with 8 machines target again train station Liege. Next day on 25th december same target again. 1st sortie 08:25 with 8 machines, 2nd sortie 14:00 with 8 machines. And so on and so forth. Another example 13th march. 1st sortie 09:09 with 11 machines target Remagen, 2nd sortie 17:11 with 6 machines target ponton bridge and street Bonn - Meckenheim.

 

Source: KG 76. Jan Horn

Edited December 23, 2021 by sevenless

[Avimimus]

10 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

The forward firing gun pod was shown in development update  #298.

 

Yeah, when that development update was released I literally leaped out of my chair upon seeing that screenshot. I never really thought there was a chance it'd happen.

[jeanba]

On 4/14/2020 at 8:26 PM, BlackSix said:

We plan to create Ar 234 B-2 and of course this modification will be mainly intended for the BoBP career (Einsatzstaffel 234, II. and III./KG 76).

But since this plane is included in BoN we must add it to the Normandy career. We plan to do this: the Juvincourt airfield will not be on the map, so most likely the Sonderkommando Götz will be based in Beauvais-Tille or Poix / Nord. 

I think I will try this career, with "Air Start"