Sublime Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: The Doras pretty much shot the living crap out of the soviet air force, when they were engaging them. No A-5s ever had 30mm guns. Their wing wouldn't house them. AFAIK, JG 26 never fielded MK108s in their 190s ever. Who would that be then? All Doras starting from December 1944 had boost. If they had the fluid available is another question, but I haven't hear of many supply-issues with MW50 in Dora-units. It was an interview I read from here. Please allow me to find the anecdote and Ill provide it. Im definitely sure I read it. This was recently.
=X51=VC_ Posted April 3, 2020 Author Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, sevenless said: Also Hermann Graf prefered his Fw190-A5 to NOT have the outer guns (MG FF in this case). That particular aircraft belongs to a training unit though and Graf was not involved in combat at the time.
sevenless Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, =X51=VC_ said: That particular aircraft belongs to a training unit though and Graf was not involved in combat at the time. We all know that. Your point is?
=X51=VC_ Posted April 3, 2020 Author Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, sevenless said: We all know that. Your point is? No need to be snappy ? my point was that it may not be indicative of his preference in combat. And that training units may have just had them not fitted because they definitely wouldn't need them.
Sublime Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 52 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: The Doras pretty much shot the living crap out of the soviet air force, when they were engaging them. No A-5s ever had 30mm guns. Their wing wouldn't house them. AFAIK, JG 26 never fielded MK108s in their 190s ever. Who would that be then? All Doras starting from December 1944 had boost. If they had the fluid available is another question, but I haven't hear of many supply-issues with MW50 in Dora-units. I read it on an interview a few months ago linked from this forum. If anyone remembers please help me out. Im absolutely certain what I read as to what he said. I cannot find it now however Im not the greatest at google fu. Im not making this up for fun, i was stunned to read this. If anyone is good at using these search engines contact me please because Im sure using certain word combos should yield what Im.on about
sevenless Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, =X51=VC_ said: No need to be snappy ? my point was that it may not be indicative of his preference in combat. And that training units may have just had them not fitted because they definitely wouldn't need them. Sorry wasn´t meant that way. I tend to dissagree. The whole purpose of Jagdgruppe Ost (JGr Ost) was to provide specialized training for new fighter pilots to familiarize the pilots with combat like situations and teach combat proven tactics by experienced veterans. They were delivered planes exactly as they came off the production line and went to the front line units. Graf was the big Boy there from 1 February 1943 – April 1943 (First man to shot down 200 planes, Brilliants of the Knights cross etc.) and ordered his planes to fit his personal preferences and individual style (just look at the fancy paintjob both on his A4 and A5), as did many other commanders. There are several other examples of similar behaviour of veterans unrelated to Fw190s. Only think about Gallands individual 109 F models with JG 26. 1
CUJO_1970 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 In case anyone doubts Priller removed those outer cannons on his A-8:
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