Help with take off

[CB77Don246]

Hi I am looking for any manuals or files or what ever on the take off of some of the WW2 planes most of them I have no problems with my main take off problems are the HS 129 / HE111 / JU88 / Spitfire can be a problem. I have mastered the FW190's triming the prop.

Many as happy hour can be spent trying to take off.

 

STAY SAFE GUYS AND GALS PLEASE at this difficult times.

[[DBS]Browning]

Watch your side slip ball in the 88.

Pull back hard on the stick for the whole roll out in the spit.

[Lusekofte]

6 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Watch your side slip ball in the 88.

Pull back hard on the stick for the whole roll out in the spit.

Yes the JU 88 is difficult if you do not follow the instrument. When you are in the runway make sure you have rolled straight forward a little bit so the tailwheel are straight. Then push forward the throttle and stick. You gain speed fast and can use your rudder. Do not apply flaps before close to 200 km/h they drag so much that gaining speed with them on is difficult. 
The JU 88 was difficult in ground handeling and takeoff/ landings. The devs got this right so this plane should be like this. 
search on youtube. There are tutorials for your problems

[LLv34_Flanker]

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I find Ju88 easy to take-off. Just slam throttle forward, keep direction with taps of toe brakes until rudder effective and off you go. Same with landing, rudder/toe brake combo and it rolls straight very nicely.

Edited March 29, 2020 by LLv34_Flanker

[Lord_Strange]

Check out Requiem's 'learn to fly' videos on youtube, they cover the basics for taking off and landing in each plane in the sim. I found them very useful myself.

Edited March 29, 2020 by Lord_Strange
Wrong video title

[jollyjack]

Ju88 ?? Flyable ? Huh ?

Edited March 29, 2020 by jollyjack

[Lusekofte]

It is easy to ground loop in landings too and break its undercarriage. 
 

2 hours ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Watch your side slip ball in the 88.

So you need to use brakes carefully during slowing down after landing. I feel the JU 88 is very realistic maybe the most of all planes. 
It was a excellent plane once in flight. 
The JU 188 was better in ground handeling according to its pilots. And is my highest wish for this sim. 
Both sides need late war bombers. 
 

[Yogiflight]

4 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

It is easy to ground loop in landings too and break its undercarriage. 
 

So you need to use brakes carefully during slowing down after landing. I feel the JU 88 is very realistic maybe the most of all planes. 
It was a excellent plane once in flight. 
The JU 188 was better in ground handeling according to its pilots. And is my highest wish for this sim. 
Both sides need late war bombers. 
 

I rarely use brakes, when landing, in any aircraft, except with the 262. For the prop aircrafts you usually don't need them. BTW, I can't remember ever having ground looped with a Ju 88 on landing.

[Lusekofte]

You will if it start turning due to wind

[CB77Don246]

Thanks guys for your help but still struggling  looks like I will have to use some help settings for some of the planes you see for me it is all about having fun and if I have to spend hours trying to get some of the planes off the ground then I will not fly them and I am a tight old bugger after I have purchased something I will want to use it.

 

At the ripe old age of 76 you would not think I have been into flight sims for so many many years and still enjoying it.

 

Thanks again and stay safe.

[Lusekofte]

You need to be careful  this video give a excellent tutorial

 

[216th_Jordan]

4 hours ago, CB77Don246 said:

Thanks guys for your help but still struggling  looks like I will have to use some help settings for some of the planes you see for me it is all about having fun and if I have to spend hours trying to get some of the planes off the ground then I will not fly them and I am a tight old bugger after I have purchased something I will want to use it.

 

At the ripe old age of 76 you would not think I have been into flight sims for so many many years and still enjoying it.

 

Thanks again and stay safe.

 

 

Do you use differential braking to help with yaw control? Il-2 this also works if you only have one universal brake button: If you apply it while pushing the rudder in one direction, you will also have differential braking in that direction (that works for all planes with diff. braking)

 

On take-off this is often required until you gain enough airspeed for the rudder(s) to work.

[PatrickAWlson]

TBH I have never done braking on takeoff.  I have also never successfully taken off in a HS129.  Going to need some practice.  

 

Most planes I gradually throttle up and use rudder to correct until the tail is off the ground.  Then full throttle and up, usually with a small amount of flap.  I guess the rudder is not effective on the HS129 and Ju88 (others?) until speed is up, thus the need to use braking.  

 

Not sure how committed you are to flying specific planes but most of them can be got off the ground without toe tapping brakes.  

[CB77Don246]

Can I just say I know a lot of you are into the real thing and how good it is BUT we need to consider new flyers to the sim (and old ones me) they are going to be put off buying new planes if they can not get them off the ground, in the end a flight sim what ever it is has to be about having fun (well it is to me) and I have spent so many hours trying to get some of the multi engine planes off the ground that I will not buy any new multi engine planes now and that is not good for my favorite sim.

 

And they say flying WW1 planes were not easy well I have more fun with WW1 planes and I find all of them easy to fly, as to some WW2 planes.

[216th_Jordan]

1 hour ago, CB77Don246 said:

Can I just say I know a lot of you are into the real thing and how good it is BUT we need to consider new flyers to the sim (and old ones me) they are going to be put off buying new planes if they can not get them off the ground, in the end a flight sim what ever it is has to be about having fun (well it is to me) and I have spent so many hours trying to get some of the multi engine planes off the ground that I will not buy any new multi engine planes now and that is not good for my favorite sim.

 

And they say flying WW1 planes were not easy well I have more fun with WW1 planes and I find all of them easy to fly, as to some WW2 planes.

 

Well the thing is if the plane was that hard to control on the ground that has to be represented in the sim. Now there are a couple of assist functions (like rudder assist) which might be able to help you.

 

I just tested taking off in the Ju-88 again and if you counter that first swing to the left with some differential breaking and slowly add power the takeoff isn't too hard to do. The aircraft does not have a tailwheel lock, so it likes to spin out. But I get your sentiment.

[Plurp]

Tested the Hs-129 without using brakes.

 

Quick mission:  Start on runway, no wind.  Boost on and flaps to takeoff (1click down). As others have suggested, pull and hold stick full back.  Go to full throttle, if the nose starts to swing use lots of rudder to counter lessening as you gain speed.  Let the nose start to drop at 75 to 100 kph

 

Add wind and change airfields to get used to some crosswinds.  It looks like 5 m/s is the max in quick missions.