P-40

[76IAP-Black]

About the ingame P-40E, I totally agree with you guys.

When you look back at the game history, you can see that the Dev's reworked some planes, 3D models and parameters for FM and DM. 
As long as i can judge, the P-40 is an essential plane for many more theaters coming, so i expect some revise in the future. 

[Mad_Mikhael]

P-40 is amazing at first maps on TAW server. I strongly recommend trying it.

[kestrel79]

Man you guys got me really excited for a New Guinea map in the Pacific. I might have to check that book out too.

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

New Guinea and China/Burma for the P-40s. I have a small book about the P-40 vs the Ki-43 (it's one of the slim paperbacks the hobby shops often carry). There are some wild pictures in there - P-40s with Chinese guards who have minimal uniforms and no shoes; water buffalo-pulled wooden carts servicing the airfields - a wild mixture of the archaic and the modern (for the early 1940s at least).

[BlitzPig_EL]

That's one of the Osprey books, It's in my collection as well.

 

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[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

Has anyone tried an all-out, power dive test in the IL2 BoX P-40E? I was reading and learned that test pilot Robert Fausel reached 661 mph in a powered dive in a P-40 in 1941. I'm just wondering how fast you've taken the P-40 and had the plane and pilot make it through.

Edited February 24, 2021 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck

[ZachariasX]

17 minutes ago, NO.20_Krispy_Duck said:

Has anyone tried an all-out, power dive test in the IL2 BoX P-40E?

880 km/h (546 mph), then flutter happens and control surfaces come off. It is a very good diver.

 

I find 661 mph a tad fast for a P-40 and in the realm of "things are terrible enouth that I can't propperly read the dieals anymore". It would be Mach 0.87 at sea level, Mach 0.9 at 10k ft., all far above critical Mach of the aircraft. The crate must shake violently then. Clearly fairy tale land.

[69TD_Hajo_Garlic]

18 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

880 km/h (546 mph), then flutter happens and control surfaces come off. It is a very good diver.

 

I find 661 mph a tad fast for a P-40 and in the realm of "things are terrible enouth that I can't propperly read the dieals anymore". It would be Mach 0.87 at sea level, Mach 0.9 at 10k ft., all far above critical Mach of the aircraft. The crate must shake violently then. Clearly fairy tale land.

That or the speedometer was giving inaccurate readings at those extreme speeds. Fastest  p40 speed I ever survived was pulling up at 530ish mph, probably skimmed the blades of grass. The only American plane I prefer in a dive is the 39. 

[NO.20_Krispy_Duck]

I would not write-off the result. The test aircraft was fitted with additional instrumentation and there was a period newsreel describing the test. More recently, the Glenn H. Curtiss Museum in New York confirmed the aircraft reached 661 in a vertical dive.

Edited February 24, 2021 by NO.20_Krispy_Duck

[BlitzPig_EL]

Was this the dive test undertaken for the French Air Force acceptance trials?  It is my understanding that the auxiliary speed measuring equipment suffered from poor calibration, and/or massive pitot tube position error.

 

That said, the P40 was certainly capable of diving in excess of 500 mph IAS.

[ZachariasX]

53 minutes ago, NO.20_Krispy_Duck said:

More recently, the Glenn H. Curtiss Museum in New York confirmed the aircraft reached 661 in a vertical dive.

I should like to see such report. And if it was true, it is like saying it is possible to cross a 10 lane highway on foot just because some dude suposedly pulled this off once and made it all the way to the other shoulder.

 

Edit: Just saw the newsreel where Bob Fausel suposedly dived to 661 mph. While this may have sounded nice at a time where the US couldn‘t muster really competitive aircraft of such type, I consider that wishful thinking at best. It‘s good yarn.

Edited February 24, 2021 by ZachariasX

[Angry_Kitten]

8 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

I should like to see such report. And if it was true, it is like saying it is possible to cross a 10 lane highway on foot just because some dude suposedly pulled this off once and made it all the way to the other shoulder.

 

Edit: Just saw the newsreel where Bob Fausel suposedly dived to 661 mph. While this may have sounded nice at a time where the US couldn‘t muster really competitive aircraft of such type, I consider that wishful thinking at best. It‘s good yarn.

in rise of flight i once hit 320 with an eindecker.  Ill admit it was a vertical dive, without wings. 

[Irishratticus72]

9 hours ago, pocketshaver said:

in rise of flight i once hit 320 with an eindecker.  Ill admit it was a vertical dive, without wings. 

THE GLORIOUS PRUSSIAN MILITARY HIGH COMMAND DOES NOT SEE THE NEED FOR WEAK AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN AERODYNAMIC LIFT DEVICES! 

[Stoopy]

On 2/24/2021 at 4:00 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

Was this the dive test undertaken for the French Air Force acceptance trials?  

Why would the French be interested in diving away as fast as possible?

 

I'll see myself out...

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

They were concerned with intercepting Stukas in their dive phase.  This was also a part of their protocols for acceptance of the Hawk 75.

 

The Hawk 81s of the French contract and Hawk 75s still in the supply pipeline when France capitulated were diverted to the RAF.

Edited March 1, 2021 by BlitzPig_EL