The powerful 110 and the "only mistakes"

[Ruben_Szabo]

My first multiplayer experience in the Bf-110 G-2 was eventful, so to say.

We (me and 3 other 110s) took of from Kerch-2, with 2 500kg bombs, heading out over the Sea of Azov. The plan was to fly over the sea, then turn 90 degrees, to south, in order to attack bridges deep inside Soviet territory. But then, over the sea, my first engine failed. I still have no idea why, but I decided to turn back to base. On my way back, I spotted an A-20, bombing targets at Kuchugury. I dropped bombs (no idea why I didn't drop earlier) and went for it. He probably saw me, as he was now escaping out to sea. I, with one and a half engines, pursued him. After about ten seconds, he made his first, and last mistake: he tried to turn, and slightly climb at the same time. I flew in close, pulled the trigger, and he fell into 3 pieces, falling right into the dark blue waves of the Sea of Azov. It was a swift kill, to say the least, and it was now that I realized how powerful this Zerstörer really is. But now my engine was really giving up, and I turned towards the home base. Then, just as I set the course, my gunner started firing. I thought he was shooting the downed A-20, as it was still falling from the sky, so I did not worry. But then I checked six: I was wrong. An La-5. I tried to evade by diving, and I managed to create some distance, but the pilot was good, he didn't lose me, and kept himself positioned under my plane, so that my gunner can't fire at him. Then, he killed my gunner, but not before he hit his fuel tank. But this didn't stop the Lavochkin. He pounded my plane, basically everything was leaking, and both my engines were failing. I tried to escape to German territory. And then, he, making his only mistake, flew too close, and crashed into me. His wing came off, but in contrast, I didn't even feel it. It was now that I realized again, how powerful this plane is, but maybe the fact that my plane was already a flying wreck also played a role in it. I managed to put my plane down on the coast of the Crimea. I, yet again, managed to save my virtual life. Unfortunately this can't be said for my gunner, to whom I posthomously awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class. 

[Jade_Monkey]

Nice sortie!

 

Your engine failed because you exceeded the time in emergency setting during/after takeoff.

 

I think you only get 1min, then you have to be on combat settings.

 

 

[Ruben_Szabo]

Just now, Jade_Monkey said:

Nice sortie!

 

Your engine failed because you exceeded the time in emergency setting during/after takeoff.

 

I think you only get 1min, then you have to be on combat settings.

 

 

Nope, it wasn't on emergency, we flew with about 70%. I think it was the oil radiator that had some problems, or the water.

[Yogiflight]

17 minutes ago, Ruben_Szabo said:

Nope, it wasn't on emergency, we flew with about 70%. I think it was the oil radiator that had some problems, or the water.

Yes always be aware of the temperatures, especially in the G2 with its powerful engines. They get too warm pretty easily.

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, Ruben_Szabo said:

Nope, it wasn't on emergency, we flew with about 70%. I think it was the oil radiator that had some problems, or the water.

 

Ok that makes sense. 

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

15 hours ago, Ruben_Szabo said:

Nope, it wasn't on emergency, we flew with about 70%. I think it was the oil radiator that had some problems, or the water.

 

For the G2, I use 50% water 50% oil

 

For the E2 I use 37% water 25% oil

 

Once I set them, I generally never touch them and have no need to.

 

I'm sure some people will scoff at my settings, and that's fine. It's usually those folks who like to blast through their combat power right away on the climb to target. When the aircraft is at a high power setting with low airspeed....of course the engines will get hot. Then they arrive at target with combat power in short supply and "pre-heated", screaming hot engines engines at a very critical point in the mission. I'm conservative with my engines on the way in, that way I have all the power I need to kill AAA, drop the payload, fight back against fighters if necessary, and get the hell out of there with little worry that I will damage an engine when I need it most.

 

This is just me though, YMMV.

Edited March 24, 2020 by =EXPEND=CG_Justin

[Ruben_Szabo]

4 hours ago, =EXPEND=CG_Justin said:

 

For the G2, I use 50% water 50% oil

 

For the E2 I use 37% water 25% oil

 

Once I set them, I generally never touch them and have no need to.

 

I'm sure some people will scoff at my settings, and that's fine. It's usually those folks who like to blast through their combat power right away on the climb to target. When the aircraft is at a high power setting with low airspeed....of course the engines will get hot. Then they arrive at target with combat power in short supply and "pre-heated", screaming hot engines engines at a very critical point in the mission. I'm conservative with my engines on the way in, that way I have all the power I need to kill AAA, drop the payload, fight back against fighters if necessary, and get the hell out of there with little worry that I will damage an engine when I need it most.

 

This is just me though, YMMV.

I'll try those settibgs out, thanks.

[Yogiflight]

4 hours ago, =EXPEND=CG_Justin said:

For the G2, I use 50% water 50% oil

 

For the E2 I use 37% water 25% oil

 

Once I set them, I generally never touch them and have no need to.

You need completely different settings in winter and summer, so it is only a rough generalization. It is not too hard to take a look into the specs, which temperatures you need and watch your gauges.

Edited March 24, 2020 by Yogiflight

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

5 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

You need completely different settings in winter and summer, so it is only a rough generalization. It is not too hard to take a look into the specs, which temperatures you need and watch your gauges.

Why bother? For a couple extra kph? I never touch them unless it's to close them on a feathered engine and I do just fine. I've flown the 110 a few times.

[gimpy117]

I find the 110 to be very potent.

 

i always wonder how it out turns yaks at low speed. I'm guessing the answer is magic slats, but I still fail to understand how a boxcar does this 

[FTC_DerSheriff]

On 3/24/2020 at 3:11 PM, =EXPEND=CG_Justin said:

Why bother? For a couple extra kph? I never touch them unless it's to close them on a feathered engine and I do just fine. I've flown the 110 a few times.

Yeah, Its not like 5kph really matters on attackers. 

[Ribbon]

50/50 rads 30min combat power (80% throttle)on cruise speed (rich air intake).

In engagement (lower air intake) i open them 75/75 or up to 100%.

110g2 is an UFO capable to match late war fighters.

When engaged (rear gunner radar is a savier) 5-10% flaps with a pinch of stabilizer, drop the bombs and you can outurn almost everything, good and decently responsive in a dive and on high speeds, good energy preservation too.

No other axis plane gives me such feeling of safety, excellent ground pounder and more than capable of defending itself.

Few 110g's in formation if flown well and coordinated is something enemy should be really afraid of!

 

 

[gimpy117]

7 hours ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

50/50 rads 30min combat power (80% throttle)on cruise speed (rich air intake).

In engagement (lower air intake) i open them 75/75 or up to 100%.

110g2 is an UFO capable to match late war fighters.

When engaged (rear gunner radar is a savier) 5-10% flaps with a pinch of stabilizer, drop the bombs and you can outurn almost everything, good and decently responsive in a dive and on high speeds, good energy preservation too.

No other axis plane gives me such feeling of safety, excellent ground pounder and more than capable of defending itself.

Few 110g's in formation if flown well and coordinated is something enemy should be really afraid of!

 

 

I agree, I think flaps are something that need to be looked at. 

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

18 hours ago, DerSheriff said:

Yeah, Its not like 5kph really matters on attackers. 

 

Exactly! If you're using the 110 for it's speed, you're doing it wrong.

[Sublime]

When I play online I use TAW for my benchmark of realism.

Of course Im just a flying victim especially a2a.

My few truly successful sorties wete A2H 110 strikes. Id be interested if TAW did BP planes how Id feel in p38.

I managed to bring a couple stukas home but the only plane Id even get a 50% survivalrate ( what with the insane flak too) was that lovely 110. And she got me back a few times with a enngine loss over target which is about the worst case.

That canopy is just death if someones shooting at you especially deflection.

Skip the backplate armor and youll see

Edited April 1, 2020 by Sublime