Questions about bombardier/gunners

[WokeUpDead]

I have two questions about bombardiers who also perform gunner duties in the Pe-2, He-111, and Ju-88:

 

If the player is in bomb-sight mode, can the bombardier/gunner still fire his gun? Logically the answer should be no, but I'm not sure what it's like in this game.

 

Also, if the gunner is killed, can the player still go into bomb-sight mode? Again, logically the answer should be no, with the possible exception of the Ju-88 where there is a third crew member very near who could replace the bombardier.

[LukeFF]

Yes and yes. The bombsight is tied to the pilot position, not any of the gunner positions.

[WokeUpDead]

23 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

Yes and yes. The bombsight is tied to the pilot position, not any of the gunner positions.

 

Thanks, that's what I suspected. I would like to see it change though.

[Yogiflight]

Another such thing is the gunner in the Bf 110 E2, who can shoot with his gun while he is reloading the drum magazines of the MG/FFs, which should not be possible as well.

[Lusekofte]

This is one of the things I believe devs took a decision in order to make a two person job into one person job. 
I do not disagree on it, personally. I was used to change to bombardier in order to get to the bombaim in clod. 
but it give a higher multitask level.  Meaning more patience in learning curve. 
I am a bit sad about the simplified interphase bomb aim mechanism is in this game. 
But respect the low budget solution. For me getting to the target and find small targets and bomb it, no matter how much I damage it I find it rewarding. I am in a ww 2 mode when trying to hit ships and bridges. Even tanks from high altitude. I gladly see a more realistic autopilot interphase and procedure before the correct station get to look in the bomb aim

Edited March 21, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[WokeUpDead]

24 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

This is one of the things I believe devs took a decision in order to make a two person job into one person job. 
I do not disagree on it, personally. I was used to change to bombardier in order to get to the bombaim in clod. 
but it give a higher multitask level.  Meaning more patience in learning curve. 
I am a bit sad about the simplified interphase bomb aim mechanism is in this game. 
But respect the low budget solution. For me getting to the target and find small targets and bomb it, no matter how much I damage it I find it rewarding. I am in a ww 2 mode when trying to hit ships and bridges. Even tanks from high altitude. I gladly see a more realistic autopilot interphase and procedure before the correct station get to look in the bomb aim

Agreed, the level bombing is very simple compared to IL-2 1946, a much older game, but I don’t think it needs to be more complex to improve the two issues I brought up. Wouldn’t it be relatively simple to have the bombsight unavailable if your bombardier was killed? And to not have your bombardier’s guns firing while the bombsight is in use?

[Enceladus828]

10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yes and yes. The bombsight is tied to the pilot position, not any of the gunner positions.

However, for the bombers in the game except for the A-20 and the ones planned for Normandy (except for the Arado 234) and B-25, B-26 when they become flyable in the future, a gunner like the Nose and Top gunner was the bombardier.

Edited March 21, 2020 by Novice-Flyer