Is "Instant-Kill" a necessary element of Multiplayer?

[Jaegermeister]

I got hit by a single AI round the other day and it was instant lights out. The only reason I know is I saw it coming....

 

Circling over a wooded area in my trusty P-38, I was looking for a well hidden AA gun. I was at about a 45 degree bank angle, looking down along the front edge of my right wing at the ground. I saw a flash, and the orange glow got bigger for about 1 second. Then everything went blank. 

 

If you have never been shot in the face by a Flak 88 in VR, I think you would be surprised at how startling and realistic it is. The shell literally bIew the cockpit apart. I think it is modeled pretty darn well and the physics were as accurate as they can be.

 

That’s what I get for stooging around looking for trouble.

[Stoopy]

So there I was, in my svelte and deadly Halberstadt CL.II in the Jasta 5 Flugpark last night, patrolling along the Eastern side of the front with a Fokker D.VII flying close escort.  We'd just returned over No Man's Land after a bombing run on the enemy's factory.   Within minutes my gunner called out a contact ahead and above, and I was hoping to still have some advantage as the sun was behind us.   A lone enemy SE-5 passed overhead, split-S'ed and a lively engagement ensued with the D.VII, my gunner and myself all striving for his demise.   While his aircraft slowly started to resemble shreds of tattered cloth and splinters, smoke streaming from behind, two more SE-5's appeared in a bid to help even out the odds.  As one approached from approximately our two o''clock position I could see that his intent was to dive underneath - I was already in a steep bank prepared to turn with him, so with hard rudder and aileron I had flipped inverted and was pointing down as he passed by directly underneath and lined up square.  My short squeeze on the trigger of the twin Spandau's was well timed, the pilot slumping over and his airship was observed spinning downward into the terrain.  With a feeling of satisfaction and accomplishment I righted our craft only to hear the slap of bullets against Brunehild's sleek airframe, then all went black.  Moments later as I came to in red haze I could see we were in a dive, and with oil and blood covering my goggles I was barely able to level out and land between artillery craters behind our lines, with our beloved craft flipping over at the last moments.  Valiant Brunehild is lost but Gunther and I live to fight another day!

 

All's fair in love and war.  Bring on the PK's. 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by =[TIA]=Stoopy

[-FISTN-V-T]

This topic smells like butthurt. 

 

OP, be at peace with the knowledge, that it happens to everyone. 

 

S!

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

On 3/4/2020 at 1:16 PM, -SF-Disarray said:

Even a .30 round, or the near metric rounds, hitting a person absent any intervention from armor or major plane components is going to likely kill them or put them in such a state that they will kill themselves being at the controls of a plane. The fact of the matter is bullets hit hard and bodies aren't good at absorbing that kind of impact. Some people will survive it for some short amount of time, maybe long enough to put the plane down safely. But before long that person will die. Does it suck when it happens to you in game? Sure does. This is why I try to avoid bullets where possible, they are bad for your health.

 

The effects of cannon shells might bear some looking at, particularly the shrapnel form these shells. But as I understand it this is being looked at so hopefully it will be better with the next patch.

 

In terms of ballistics, and outside of a CNS shot, FBI/hospital statistics show survivability with pistol rounds is in the low 90 percent range and rifle rounds are high 70's. I don't have the charts in front of me but it has been quoted to me many times at tactical police trainings and I've seen the PowerPoint presentations. Surviability also has a lot to do with mindset and how you react to emotional shock (as opposed to blood loss shock). Some people survive head wounds and others die from a bullet through a buttcheek. People who go into a fight believing that they will survive are remarkably resilient. Mindset is directly related to survival.

Edited March 22, 2020 by II/JG17_HerrMurf
correct 80 to 70

[Quinte]

Those people are usually not shot while flying a high powered aircraft.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Ballistics and survivor mentality do not change. The only factor which could, in a single seat fighter, is the ability to control bleeding.

[=621=Samikatz]

I remember reading an especially grim account of a Spitfire pilot who only after landing realised a round had entered the cockpit and blown his kneecap off