Hoping for a BoB online server....

[Daff]

Just some wishful thinking.

 

Edited February 27, 2020 by Daff

[GarandM1]

It would be a lot of fun, but the disparity in Allied/Axis plane variety would make it tough to have an interesting, even matchup. 

[RedKestrel]

21 minutes ago, GarandM1 said:

It would be a lot of fun, but the disparity in Allied/Axis plane variety would make it tough to have an interesting, even matchup. 

Spit Vb and Hurricane Mk II vs. 109E-7 and F-2/4 would be an interesting matchup, not far off from Spit I/Hurricane I vs. Bf-109E-4. You could even throw in a P-40 if you wanted. For attackers the RAF could have the A-20 against the He-111, Ju-87 and Ju-88. 

The main problem is that on the allied sides all the remotely appropriate planes are collector planes, and the Hurricane isn't even going to be associated with a specific game package, so it might be pretty rare on line. It would be difficult to populate the allied side with numbers like that.

Best chance of something like this happening and working well is a Channel Battle map put on by Combat Box, set in 1943 with Spit Vbs/IXs, P-47D razorbacks, and 1944/ early 44 era 109s and 190s. 

[GarandM1]

5 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

Spit Vb and Hurricane Mk II vs. 109E-7 and F-2/4 would be an interesting matchup, not far off from Spit I/Hurricane I vs. Bf-109E-4. You could even throw in a P-40 if you wanted. For attackers the RAF could have the A-20 against the He-111, Ju-87 and Ju-88. 

The main problem is that on the allied sides all the remotely appropriate planes are collector planes, and the Hurricane isn't even going to be associated with a specific game package, so it might be pretty rare on line. It would be difficult to populate the allied side with numbers like that.

Best chance of something like this happening and working well is a Channel Battle map put on by Combat Box, set in 1943 with Spit Vbs/IXs, P-47D razorbacks, and 1944/ early 44 era 109s and 190s. 

Definitely. I would love a channel scenario on Combat Box. That sound a lot more balanced and plausible than a BoB scenario. I am really looking forward to what CB does with the Channel map. 

[Diggun]

The Bob scenario just needs different rules imho. Brits on pure defence, no targets to destroy for them, a whole bunch for the German team though. Maybe make the maps shorter and the win/loss conditions more like of the Germans destroy 50% or more of their targets in an hour and a half? Dunno if this is doable though. Reckon you'll see plenty of spits and hurricanes in the air... 

[Lusekofte]

We can make it happen. And see if its doable. 
You can set a mission in kuban map already and test it out. Imagination and will is all you need. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

IMHO, think outside of just the Battle of Britain (June 1940 to October 1940) and suddenly things get more doable with the current set of aircraft that we have. The channel wars of 1941 and 1942 offer a little more variety and possibility with the Bf109F's up against the Spitfire V, the Hurricane doing fighter-bomber work, plus Bf110s and FW190A-3. You could even get the Mosquito FB.VI from Normandy potentially in there. It's not quite perfect but you could do it.

Edited February 28, 2020 by ShamrockOneFive

[PatrickAWlson]

Definitely going to do at least 1942 and hopefully 1941 to 1944.  Should be manageable since we have a 1941 plane set.  

British:

1941 : Spitfire V and Hurricane II ... can I squeeze in the P40 anywhere?

1942: Spitfire V and Hurricane II 

1943: Spitfire IX, Typhoon,  Mosquito

1944: Spitfire IX, Typhoon,  Mosquito

 

German:

1941: Me109 F2, Me110, Ju88A and C ... were all Stukas withdrawn to the east?

1942: Me109 F4, FW190 A3, Me110, Ju88A and C

1943: Me109 G2/G4, FW190 A5, Me410, Ju88A and C

1944: Me109 G6, FW190 A6 and A8,  Me410, Ju88A and C

American:

1943: P47C

1944: P51B, P47C

[[=PzG=]-Southernbear]

I've already talked about this in another thread...BoB is possible and if people are really pedantic about it then Jan-Feb in early 1941 is defiantly possible as thats where the Spit Mk V starts to role off into service and later in the Autumn and winter the Fw-190A3 comes to play.

 

The map below is a screen cap of Bases and their roles in the summer of 1940 using the current map size (roughly) 

 

 

http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-battle-of-britain-map.html This website has a map (click on the map will load a new page) using the  Battle of Britain Campaign Diaries as a resource to collect a "comprehensive map of RAF and Luftwaffe bases in the summer of 1940. The map also includes the locations of radar stations and the maximum flight range of the German Messerschmitt 109 and the ranges of the RAF's radar coverage"

 

It is in an odd mix of french and Spanish but it gets the point across

 

http://doblea.info/Batalla_de_Inglaterra/index.html <Another link directly to the map as well

Key:

Blue with a White circle: "RAF Air Base"

White with a Blue circle: "Fighter Command Station (RAF)"

The Circle with arrows point to RAF High(Blue arrow) and Low(White arrow) Radar stations

 

This means we at very least have RAF Fighter Command Station, Tangmere on our map And a few other miscellaneous RAF bases

 

The Germans follow a similar trend:

Red with white circle: Air base (Hunting bases...I assume this means fighter bases)

White with Red Circle: Air bases for long range bombers

Red with White Cross: "Bases of flight bombers plummeting" I Assume this means Dive bomber bases for Ju 87s and the like. 

 

With our map the Germans have a He 111 base in Cherbourg-Maupertus, one near Cean several "Hunting Bases" near Cean and between Boulonge-sur-Mer and Calais and a single Ju 87 airbase near Cean. 

 

The *Disclaimer* of course is I am not a Dev and they could have and probably have found better infomation than I but I just wanted to show that there are RAF Bases that south of London. 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by Southernbear

[616Sqn_Tyggz]

"403 Sqn Curtiss Tomahawk I  in July 1941."

Spoiler

 

"Initially equipped with the Curtiss Tomahawk I, they were replaced with the Supermarine Spitfire after only 29 operational sorties. Through continual replacement and updating, the squadron flew various models, Mk I through Mk XVI, of this very popular aircraft."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/403_Helicopter_Operational_Training_Squadron

 

The P-40 we have in game was never based in the UK and was instead used by the RAF in the North Africa and Asia. (Do correct me if I'm wrong btw)

It really depends on how far people wish to stray away from the exact aircraft variants which were present.

 

Personally I'd like to see Kittyhawks and the P-51 B/C standing in for the Tomahawk and the Mustang I

[Talisman]

Historical set up would need Dowdings air defence system, which the Hurricane and Spitfire squadrons were part of, but also included Chain home radar, Chain low radar, observer corps, barrage balloons, anti aircraft guns of the time and ground fighter controllers and associated radio communications concerning enemy activity, altitude and vector to target, etc.

 

A proper Battle of Britain simulation would be great for organised virtual squadron flying in MP for both the British and Axis pilots

 

We can dream.  The nearest we got to this in the past was CloD with SoW and ACG.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman

[PatrickAWlson]

15 hours ago, Tyggz said:

"403 Sqn Curtiss Tomahawk I  in July 1941."

  Reveal hidden contents

 

"Initially equipped with the Curtiss Tomahawk I, they were replaced with the Supermarine Spitfire after only 29 operational sorties. Through continual replacement and updating, the squadron flew various models, Mk I through Mk XVI, of this very popular aircraft."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/403_Helicopter_Operational_Training_Squadron

 

The P-40 we have in game was never based in the UK and was instead used by the RAF in the North Africa and Asia. (Do correct me if I'm wrong btw)

It really depends on how far people wish to stray away from the exact aircraft variants which were present.

 

Personally I'd like to see Kittyhawks and the P-51 B/C standing in for the Tomahawk and the Mustang I

 

I have never been pedantic about 100% historical accuracy.  Not right or wrong, just my opinion.  As a result I have squadrons on the wrong airfield to shorten flight times, I use the Ju87D in Moscow because IMHO that Stuka is better than no Stuka, etc.  In this case the P40 is still viable in early 1941 and I think it would be kind of neat to have one unit flying ot for a little while before transitioning to Spitfires.

 

[LuftManu]

1 minute ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

I have never been pedantic about 100% historical accuracy.  Not right or wrong, just my opinion.  As a result I have squadrons on the wrong airfield to shorten flight times, I use the Ju87D in Moscow because IMHO that Stuka is better than no Stuka, etc.  In this case the P40 is still viable in early 1941 and I think it would be kind of neat to have one unit flying ot for a little while before transitioning to Spitfires.

 

I also support this idea. I think we have enough planes to have a 1941 Channel front.

[Lusekofte]

Find a dry spot in Russian steppes. 
voila and you get North Africa

[BlitzPig_EL]

45 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Find a dry spot in Russian steppes. 
voila and you get North Africa

 

The Stalingrad Summer map works fairly well for this.  With the help of Syn_Vander's wonderful mission builder tool I have made a "desert" scenario with the early war aircraft we have that fit.

 

It's quite fun.

[Lusekofte]

I will try it out. I miss the old make do attitude in IL 2. 
I can be master of my own PTO in GB and Africa

I got the Boston P 40 Spit and soon Hurricane. 
I can use almost all LW planes

Edited February 28, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[BlitzPig_EL]

Exactly.  Can't wait to add the Hurricane to that scenario.

[Lusekofte]

10 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Exactly.  Can't wait to add the Hurricane to that scenario.

Ditto

Hurricane shows the fact that devs and community is pretty close when it comes to preferences