You want to sell more FC vol 1?

[SeaW0lf]

Jason's post seems to lay it out pretty clear if you read in between the lines. Perhaps this is just me? From this perspective, they would never sit down to create a new flight model for a Snipe or any other plane from the WWI era. This I think everyone here agrees with, unless they start to advertise FC in their own forum, create some events, and all of the sudden we have a rise in interest and WWI becomes the little darling of Il-2 (rightfully so). Then yes, I can see them creating models for the Snipe, Shuckert, some needed two-seaters and such. If the game is just tuck around the corner and forgotten, then it will remain forgotten.

 

I do expect to see FC2, but it might take a while, and I mean a while.

[Zooropa_Fly]

5 hours ago, Hellequin13 said:

Mayhap I missed it, but I am pretty sure we have not seen the sales figures for FC, so I am not sure where all this gloom and doom is coming from. 

 

I expect I'm tagged as one of the doom and gloomers, although I like to think I'm more of a realist. 

 

I don't think anyone has ever claimed to know any sales figures, but Im using MP numbers as an indicator that perhaps sales haven't been great. 

Flugpark is obviously doing well at least a couple of times a week and long may that continue, but unless things have changed that's the only MP success. 

For me personally these times aren't usually when I fly. So as good as it is that many are getting a lot of what they want from FC, frankly at the moment I'm not. 

I've gone from running an empty server in FC to running an empty one in RoF. Even NFF can be empty most of the day now over there. 

So I'm left with the overall feeling that maybe splitting the ww1 community wasn't a good idea. That's maybe a little selfish, but I'm now bereft of the daily MP action I've been used to for the last 7 or so years. Time to buy a steering wheel... do TR4 again ? 

 

So, maybe a few on here are in similar positions and aren't trying to piss on this game just for the sake of it. 

 

I bought almost all the BoX stuff because of FC, ran a server.. blah blah, so I wanted, still want in fact, FC to go onto better things. 

 

If I'm honest, I was expecting a small portion of the Flugpark attendees to come over to my server once in a while for a more relaxed bit of fun, as used to happen with WG / NFF.

Thinking about it, maybe all the eggs in the one basket isn't helping. Perhaps you should seek out another server for the occasional ruck. If such a server started getting even low numbers on say Euro evenings, that might draft in some stragglers. It certainly might bring me back. 

 

This was fun to do on my phone, can't see how long it is but I think too long.

And I'm not checking spelling either. 

 

S! 

 

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

2 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Time to buy a steering wheel... do TR4 again ? 

 

Hey ZF, I was able to pick up F1 2018 dirt cheap on PC.  Care to join me one of these days?

[JG1_Etzel]

14 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

I expect I'm tagged as one of the doom and gloomers, although I like to think I'm more of a realist. 

 

Hey Zoo, ...yes, it might be the case that you simply see the reality as it is.

The only point you need to understand from the other side: Does it help anyhow to be realistic?

Finally we all do not know the facts behind nor the overall situation and plans from Jason and his team, but one thing is clear:

98% of the people flying FC and esp. of the ones discussing here in this forum simply love both games, RoF and FC. Yes, there are shortcomings with respect to the scope of FC Vol 1 and there bugs (like in every single piece of software that was produced for more  than the last half century) and there are discussions and complaints on nearly every single minor parameter of the flight models, but nevertheless finally it comes to the conclusion:

We all simply hope and pray and (at least want to) believe that FC development will continue!!!

 

So after all the question to ask in that situation is: Would it help in any way to convice any one of the opinion, that FC development is in fact dead?? All it could be in the end is a self fullfilling prophecy => The less people believe in the future of FC, the worse the overal attitude will gett, the less people will buy, etc.

 

While on the other side: As long as there is a realistic hope there is there is also enthusiasm and some potential! People create missions for servers and campaigns for single player, there are events (FiF, BA & BS) attracting new players....

And every new owner of FC Vol. 1 is with a pretty high chance a paying customer for a potential Vol. 2.

 

Please don't get wrong: It's a free forum and all your thoughts and opinions are fully valid ... I just want to give you my thoughts on why the reactions on your comments are not (let's say) the happiest ones... ?

And one important point on this: Finally there will probably never (at least not in the mid term future) be an official statement by Jason or anyone else of 1GCS... "OK guys, FC is dead", simply because as soon as this statement is out it would mean that also sellings of FC will break down to 0,- instantly... As long as this statement is not done, FC will generate income (no matter how much)....

So only in some years from now it will be judgeable if you were right or not.... But until then most of us will deny your thoughts, no matter how realistic they might be.

 

And to make it clear: Also your contribution in Form of your Server was definitly appreciated, even if population did not show this directly... In my case it did not fully meet my preferences, but nevertheless I would have joined from time to time.

And I really think that over the time player numbers will increase (maybe only slowly) and then also your server concept would attract a relevant number of players continiously....

 

Salute

 

Etzel

Edited February 7, 2020 by II./JG1_Etzel

[BMA_Hellbender]

Server popularity is a fickle thing. In RoF, at the very start it was CoCos then IRFC Coops. With the coming of Dogfight mode there was Les Hellequins, Syndicate and finally Cuban's Syndicate, New Wings and NFF. There were and still are others that attract crowds.

 

For FC I like to think that J5 moved in early and decisively to create a straightforward environment serving many purposes, mainly through the work of a few talented mission builders, and in large parts thanks to the lessons learned from a decade of RoF multiplayer. Even though I'm heavily biased towards people flying on the Flugpark, I would still like to see some kind of WWI-only competition going. Or maybe it's just like the WWI niche itself, there's just too few of us and the only competition is the toughest of all: stopping with WWI sims completely, something I also did for a year after my second kid was born.

 

 

As for the future, realistically speaking, it makes no sense to tell us whether the game is selling well or not.

 

If it is, we'd be indignant about FC2. If it's not, we'd give up.

 

Best to assume nothing, just know that Jason is on our side to develop more volumes, and that we should help him convince 1C that WWI makes business sense. Whether you're buying FC1 at the lowest possible price point when on sale, gifting multiple copies to strangers or even donating to server operators to keep the multiplayer community afloat — it doesn't matter, you're one of us and every bit counts. There's no guarantee about the future, still I like to think that support of FC1 will not cease. I've been accused multiple times of holding some sway (purely coincidental and only in a negative way — I'll be bugging them about updated speed measurements again soon, though), so I'll put my own reputation at risk again and say an announcement is likely to come close to the PTO announcement.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Hellbender

[JG1_Butzzell]

1 hour ago, Hellbender said:

I would still like to see some kind of WWI-only competition going.

 

 

Uhmm you mean like Bloody April, Black September, Flanders in Flames?

[BMA_Hellbender]

46 minutes ago, JG1_Butzzell said:

Uhmm you mean like Bloody April, Black September, Flanders in Flames?

 

I should have worded that better: competition as in a competing dogfight server. We're very well covered in the WWI online campaign/competition department.

 

Currently you can fly WWI planes on BERLOGA (and maybe other dogfight servers?) but they're not WWI-only and so I suppose their use there is quite limited.

[Feathered_IV]

13 hours ago, II./JG1_Etzel said:

We all simply hope and pray and (at least want to) believe that FC development will continue!!!

 

So after all the question to ask in that situation is: Would it help in any way to convice any one of the opinion, that FC development is in fact dead??

 

Theres certainly no point trying to spread rumors that Flying Circus is DoA.  In fact I would argue that FC has more potential going forward than future WW2 chapters.  Especially given that the Pacific is off the table and the Luftwaffe planeset is largely covered except for the freaks and follies.

 If BoB and the Med are out of bounds too, then a good follow up on FC and WW1 represents a large area of untapped future potential. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

7 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

 

Theres certainly no point trying to spread rumors that Flying Circus is DoA.  In fact I would argue that FC has more potential going forward than future WW2 chapters.  Especially given that the Pacific is off the table and the Luftwaffe planeset is largely covered except for the freaks and follies.

 If BoB and the Med are out of bounds too, then a good follow up on FC and WW1 represents a large area of untapped future potential. 

They can made many ww2 or pre ww2 post ww1 scenarios and be buise for more that 10 years or go post ww2 as Han said  for Korea . It's true that ww1 has also many gaps to fill especially in FC but I don't think this is good argument , I really would like to believe but I'm realistic unfortunately.

[1PL-Lucas-1Esk]

When the Flying Circus was in development, I was thinking that an online campaign like Tactical Air War for BoS would be awesome. A scenario victory has an impact on the front line and you can basically push the enemy back, or defend your one. Starting with worse plane, you can earn a better one and once you will die or be captured you start from the beginning.

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

5 hours ago, 1PL-Lucas-1Esk said:

When the Flying Circus was in development, I was thinking that an online campaign like Tactical Air War for BoS would be awesome. A scenario victory has an impact on the front line and you can basically push the enemy back, or defend your one. Starting with worse plane, you can earn a better one and once you will die or be captured you start from the beginning.

 

I thought much the same.  However, we have a pretty unbalanced plane set to be locking the better planes behind a progress wall.

[1PL-Lucas-1Esk]

18 hours ago, J28w-Broccoli said:

 

I thought much the same.  However, we have a pretty unbalanced plane set to be locking the better planes behind a progress wall.

 

It depends on the team cooperation. WW1 was always about building planes better than the enemy, so it was changing and you will never get a 'perfect balance'. Each side has its pros and cons.

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

2 hours ago, 1PL-Lucas-1Esk said:

 

It depends on the team cooperation. WW1 was always about building planes better than the enemy, so it was changing and you will never get a 'perfect balance'. Each side has its pros and cons.

 

Well what I'm saying is, what are you going to have the centrals flying while they're plugging along toward the DR1 and DVIIf?  What will the Entente be flying?  You can't put them all in Dolphins.

 

All I'm saying is that there will be bitching; and if there are other options like flugpark around, a lot of people will be likely to continue flying there instead.

 

That said, and just spitballing here; It might even be better to make the unlocking of aircraft dependent solely on (or heavily weighted toward) flying two-seater missions.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J28w-Broccoli

[J99_Sizzlorr]

On 2/8/2020 at 12:12 PM, 1PL-Lucas-1Esk said:

When the Flying Circus was in development, I was thinking that an online campaign like Tactical Air War for BoS would be awesome. A scenario victory has an impact on the front line and you can basically push the enemy back, or defend your one. Starting with worse plane, you can earn a better one and once you will die or be captured you start from the beginning.

 

It sound good on paper but I have to agree with Broccoli here, unfortunatley there are pilots who will simply refuse to fly the missions where they don't get their favourite planes (in sufficent numbers (meaning unlimited *cough* *cough*)) no matter how many bells and whistles and hours you put into that. 

 

They will go and fly anything else as long as their planes are there, which is totally fine, but it will seperate our small community and make it even smaller. That might not be the intention of your suggestion but that is the harsh reality. So instead of pushing sales you will fracture the community and even hurt sales if numbers will decrease. No one will buy FC if the only thing they see are empty servers. Because multiplayer is the only thing FC has right now. Jason thought that with getting FC out with full ME support will compensate for the lack of singleplayer content, but as everyone who fired up the ME and tried to create a mission with it will tell that this is not a trivial thing to do.

There are people who don't like challenges, like limited planes or restricted planesets, which is also fine. Some only have a few hours to fly every week and it is totally understandable that they want that time spend in their favourite aircraft, which they bought with their hard earned money.

 

Remembering how much flak i got for putting up a limited and in my eyes balanced planeset I refuse to spend hours on a mission with a restricted planeset. I have better stuff to do with my limited time.

 

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That said, and just spitballing here; It might even be better to make the unlocking of aircraft dependent solely on (or heavily weighted toward) flying two-seater missions.

 

No that doesn't work either, because people don't like to fly 2-seater-missions (speaking recon missions). They see themseles as victims.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[emely]

44 minutes ago, J28w-Broccoli said:

 

Well what I'm saying is, what are you going to have the centrals flying while they're plugging along toward the DR1 and DVIIf?  What will the Entente be flying?  You can't put them all in Dolphins.

Why not, dolphins are enough for everyone! ?

There is still se5a and a simple D7 maybe they will fight well.

Edited February 9, 2020 by emely

[J2_Bidu]

I for one am pretty happy about how FC is turning out. I see more and more people  in multiplayer, and the fun is getting better every time. Best we can do besides actually showing up and flying is spread word of the WW1 genre around, make great videos, get great screenshots, post them on your social network of choice, talk to friends about it, show your nephew the game, lend your favorite book on Richthofen, share the fun. Because it is a lot of fun.

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

1 hour ago, emely said:

Why not, dolphins are enough for everyone! ?

There is still se5a and a simple D7 maybe they will fight well.

 

Well the Se5a slaughters the basic D7, not even a contest.  Perhaps if we had an overcompressed Mercedes in it...

[No.23_Triggers]

1 hour ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

It sound good on paper but I have to agree with Broccoli here, unfortunatley there are pilots who will simply refuse to fly the missions where they don't get their favourite planes (in sufficent numbers (meaning unlimited *cough* *cough*)) no matter how many bells and whistles and hours you put into that. 

 

They will go and fly anything else as long as their planes are there, which is totally fine, but it will seperate our small community and make it even smaller. That might not be the intention of your suggestion but that is the harsh reality. So instead of pushing sales you will fracture the community and even hurt sales if numbers will decrease. No one will buy FC if the only thing they see are empty servers. Because multiplayer is the only thing FC has right now. Jason thought that with getting FC out with full ME support will compensate for the lack of singleplayer content, but as everyone who fired up the ME and tried to create a mission with it will tell that this is not a trivial thing to do.

There are people who don't like challenges, like limited planes or restricted planesets, which is also fine. Some only have a few hours to fly every week and it is totally understandable that they want that time spend in their favourite aircraft, which they bought with their hard earned money.

 

Remembering how much flak i got for putting up a limited and in my eyes balanced planeset I refuse to spend hours on a mission with a restricted planeset. I have better stuff to do with my limited time.

 

I take it you're not a fan of the 3rd PG, then? 

Agreed that empty servers are only going to hurt sales...but FC is already stronger than RoF was in its last months, I think! True, the servers aren't always busy, but we started out with a very small WW1 community at the start of FC Vol 1. It's since grown. J5 have worked wonders for the community - Black September was the big turning point that got more people into FC for me, giving the community some 'direction' past random furball servers, and the Flugpark's Sunday missions are only adding to the momentum of that. I really hope the Tuesday sessions pick up as well.

On the subject of the Flugpark - that server is proof that the FC player base is growing. They're now talking about increasing the player cap after having the server maxed out several weeks in a row! 

There are also the new squadrons that have drifted in - SCG is a great example - that came over from the WW2-era stuff, and brought some additional numbers in with them. When those guys started flying there was only 3 of them, now there's 5 or 6. Those 5 or 6 might have some WW2 wingmen to which they say "Hey, have you tried FC yet?". I keep seeing WW2 people being brought in by WW1 pilots...so I only have hope for the community growing at this point...it'll take time, though!  
 

8 minutes ago, J28w-Broccoli said:

Well the Se5a slaughters the basic D7, not even a contest.  Perhaps if we had an overcompressed Mercedes in it...

I think it's down to the pilot, at least in my experience.....IMHO a rookie SE5a pilot will get murdered by a rookie Alb pilot, an intermediate S.E vs intermediate D7 is slightly in favour of the D7, an experienced SE pilot has the advantage vs and experienced D7 pilot, and two experts in the two planes would be a stalemate. Hell, I've got into stalemates with expert Alb pilots while flying a SPAD. 

I see your point though, and it's actually a big concern of mines regarding FC's growth - I fear that new players just starting out might come in and get trampled by better-performing planes...in the case of the Germans, flying an Alb, Pfalz or Halb as a beginner will probably end up with Camels, S.Es and SPADs having their way with you, and for new Entente pilots the D7F will just crush you. The most well-matched planes (Not saying they're equals!), the Dr.I and the Camel, are largely inaccessible to brand new pilots owing to the learning curve as well.

The plane-set, for me, is a glaring issue with FC, and one that could potentially affect new players coming in. However, I think that limiting the set might also be a bad thing. At least if the rookies come in and fly the best planes, and do well in them, they'll be having more fun and will be more likely to stick around than if they're being murdered in the weaker planes...

[J99_Sizzlorr]

2 hours ago, US93_Larner said:

I take it you're not a fan of the 3rd PG, then? 

 

No, correct me if I am wrong but I couldn't help but notice that 3rd PG is not a fan of my mission (got that impresssion from watching Baers live streams and reading through Youtube comments and all that) or any mission where the Spad is limited or not there at all. (missed you in FiF yesterday) . Which is totally fine with me. You can not please everyone I guess. Again I have nothing against you or your squadron. Why should I? I don't know where that is comming from and it saddens me that you think this way. I am thankful for everyone in the FC community. We all share the same passion. It is just a pitty that your squadron refuse to fly when your favourite ride is limited and not accepting the challenge of bringing your planes home safe.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[HagarTheHorrible]

While I agree, that limiting planesets might encourage players to stay away or fracture the community, it still might be worthwhile giving it a try on an off night, not Thursday or Sunday, J5 is hopefully strong enough of a pull to encourage even the diehard Camel and "f"*ckker pilots to chance their arm (as long as they can keep their stats and streaks for the unlimited version).  With enough publicity and encouragement, I'm sure we have a pretty dedicated bunch of players here in FC, many of whom wouldn't say no to a different challenge, it might just work  There will still be better and best aircraft, but the balance might be more even.  I might even venture the Camel be included, but only with 100% fuel lock, but that might just be too much, better to experiment without.  I know that, I personnally, if I could be guaranteed not to meet any "f"'s I would be alot happier about flying the Dolphin or SE as I'm sure a lot of Central pilots would be happier flying anything other than the "f" if there was no Camel.  The DR1 would still be king in a dogfight , but at least in FC, unlike RoF, it would be possible to leave the fight with a DR1 if it all went tits up.

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Well let's remember our playerbase too.  How many novices do we have compared to experts.  75% of the playerbase have been flying these crates since RoF.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

1PL could fly and fight on barn doors , plane set do not matter , interesting mission is more important. Some prefer different airframes but that is least important. Actually I'm always interested in flying underdogs or least used airframes in that kind of mission, liked TAW where you start with old underperforming planes ,earn better but always can loose them and meet enemies which have better

[Garven]

1 hour ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

It is just a pitty that your squadron refuse to fly when your favourite ride is limited and not accepting the challenge of bringing your planes home safe.

It's our only historical ride.  I spend most of my time in flight sims flying the underdog fighter.  When you limit the plane that only is usually only flown by a small group of people it comes off as targeting that group of people especially when the SE5a could be considered superior to the FC SPAD.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

7 minutes ago, US93_Furlow said:

It's our only historical ride.  I spend most of my time in flight sims flying the underdog fighter.  When you limit the plane that only is usually only flown by a small group of people it comes off as targeting that group of people especially when the SE5a could be considered superior to the FC SPAD.

 

If you follow your logic then I am targeting myself and the big group flying F7f as well... Didn't your historical squadron fly Dolphins later on?

The S.E.5a might be faster than the Spad but again speed is not everything, its airframe is weaker than that of the tank Spad 13 

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[Garven]

2 minutes ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

If you follow your logic then I am targeting myself and the big group flying F7f as well... Didn't your historical squadron fly Dolphins later on?

DVIIF isn't your only historical ride besides the in game SE5a is more of its entente equivalent.  USAS never flew dolphins in combat during WW1.  

[Zooropa_Fly]

39 minutes ago, J28w-Broccoli said:

Well let's remember our playerbase too.  How many novices do we have compared to experts.  75% of the playerbase have been flying these crates since Red Baron lol.

 

[SeaW0lf]

Well, the D7 vs SE5a / Spad missions in ROF was a classic. No Camels, no Dr1s. You could unlock the D7F with recons (I think the Dolphin for the Entente), but it did not matter from the German side, unless we had several Entente squadrons on comms. Then it could become a landslide. But I always fared well with the D7. In fact, was one of the funniest missions.

 

Since we only have J5 Flugpark running strong, I just don't think it is a good idea to change the whole objective, start to lock fuel, force recons, close airfields and airplane setups. Then we might see people go away. But I agree with the idea of creating a weekly event without the D7F and the Camel. A SE5a, Spad, D7, Albatros, Pfalz and Dolphin matchup will be fun for sure, plus the two-seaters. You could even select a couple Dr1s for the enthusiasts, since she is slow as a toddler.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

4 minutes ago, US93_Furlow said:

DVIIF isn't your only historical ride besides the in game SE5a is more of its entente equivalent.  USAS never flew dolphins in combat during WW1.  

 

J99 is a fictional squadron so we don't limit ourselves to specific planes...we don't take it too seriously at least FC it is just a game we play for our enjoyment. And FC is more than just one plane.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Well I'm sure you will all enjoy flying amongst yourselves then, as we pretty much already do.  I doubt most new players will enjoy having their planeset constricted (in an already constricted planeset) when 75% of their opposition are ace level flyers; AND when they could just go on Flugpark and fly something they actually like.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J28w-Broccoli

[Garven]

Just now, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

J99 is a fictional squadron so we don't limit ourselves to specific planes...we don't take it too seriously at least FC it is just a game we play for our enjoyment.

No more than I do.

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/81/J99_Sizzlorr/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/27/US93_Furlow/?tour=8

[J99_Sizzlorr]

1 minute ago, US93_Furlow said:

No more than I do.

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/81/J99_Sizzlorr/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/27/US93_Furlow/?tour=8

 

See i knew we could get along nicely...

[No.23_Gaylion]

[Garven]

3 minutes ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

See i knew we could get along nicely...

Difference is I'm not constantly flying the best aircraft available in game that was historically of limited production numbers.  8,000 plus SPAD XIII's produced beginning in 1917 vs less than 800 DVIIF's in 1918.

[J99_Sizzlorr]

19 minutes ago, US93_Furlow said:

Difference is I'm not constantly flying the best aircraft available in game that was historically of limited production numbers.  8,000 plus SPAD XIII's produced beginning in 1917 vs less than 800 DVIIF's in 1918.

 

Well i wasn't talking about me or you, I was talking about our squadrons. And to be fair you left some out of your equation...

 

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/4/US103_Baer/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/88/US93_Larner/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/564/US213_Biddle/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/246/US213_Hall/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/73/US213_Talbot/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/423/US103_Hunter/?tour=8

http://stats.jasta5.org:8000/en/sorties/116/US103_Parsons/?tour=8&page=2

 

Of all those 8000 Spads how many did the Americans get? I'll bet more than 7 but hey we have some limitations to work with here...

 

I hear Foch say: Those Americans come here in the last year of the war, they don't want to sleep in our beds because of all the bed bugs, they don't like our delicous food but they want all our Spads and women...

 

 

For Spads sake give me a historically accurate engine for the Fokker D.VII and the Albatros D.Va for 1918 and the fantasy D.VIIf is the first plane to be erased in my mission...

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr
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[No.23_Gaylion]

Hey, guilty as charged man.

 

To be fair I never asked for unlimited SPADS. Just bumped up a little.

 

I stick to this plane because I'd rather be ok in one plane than mediocre in a bunch of them.

 

[J99_Sizzlorr]

4 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said:

Hey, guilty as charged man.

 

To be fair I never asked for unlimited SPADS. Just bumped up a little.

 

I stick to this plane because I'd rather be ok in one plane than mediocre in a bunch of them.

 

 

That is an honest answer. And I appreciate that.

[J5_Gamecock]

1 hour ago, J28w-Broccoli said:

75% of the playerbase have been flying these crates since RoF.

 Or longer.

[Garven]

10 minutes ago, J99_Sizzlorr said:

 

That is an honest answer. And I appreciate that.

Are you implying mine weren't?

[J99_Sizzlorr]

2 minutes ago, US93_Furlow said:

Are you implying mine weren't?

 

Nope...just that you have an agenda running there (leaving out facts that don't support your thesis)...there is not much space between my lines. I wonder how you read so much in between them.

Edited February 9, 2020 by J99_Sizzlorr

[BraveSirRobin]

26 minutes ago, US213_Talbot said:

I stick to this plane because I'd rather be ok in one plane than mediocre in a bunch of them.

 

I used to stick to that plane, too.  But it had nothing to do with my skill level in it.  The Spad is, by far, the best aircraft for getting kills and staying alive.  It’s also the best aircraft for team fighting.  It’s easy to be “ok” when you can just dive away when you get in trouble.