DCS

[dburne]

Yep I would go ahead and add another 8GB ram.

[Picchio]

My second armed recce; fruitless.

 

[Lusekofte]

On 7/14/2018 at 12:53 AM, DD_Arthur said:

'Fraid I'm one of those terrible people who like FC3 and don't like clickable pits and will therefore buy this and enjoy it for what it is   

 

Lock On was the first modern jet sim I ever bought. I flew the A 10 and SU 25 like my life depended on it.

I never really understood the divided status between flying a high fidelity module or a FC 3 airplane. 

-take the SU 25 T , I have to map everything I like to use to keyboard and panels and remember all the mapping. I find that plane harder to survive in compared to the A 10C and not particular easier to fly. 

I became aware of the different status these birds had in a Facebook page, and questioning this made them laugh in my face, I guess not being active in FB and DCS forums together with the absence of activity on MP servers put you on the sideline

15 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

'm running DCS with 8GB of RAM

 

I was wondering the same, actually some say 16 is to little, absolutely much better than 8, but when I built my new PC I put in 32, based on advice from DCS community

[Guest deleted@83466]

I haven't done much DCS multiplayer, but when I have, it was really annoying to be flying one of the study sim planes, and being up against people flying the Easy Mode FC3 planes that are able to shoot you out of the sky from 50 miles away with a Spamram.   I wish the two did not co-exist on the same multiplayer servers.

[Gambit21]

They shouldn’t exist together - that’s messed up.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Honestly, I don't think there's much of a difference. The radar operation for the F-15 is almost entirely HOTAS, in combat it would work the same. The Hornet is going to start paining users online as well once the AMRAAM is integrated, but eventually the F-14 will take care of things with the Phoenix.

 

From experience the F-15 types aren't much of a threat though, if you heed the RWR warnings and don't fly predictably you'll find that most are actually idiots who cannot do more than fire six missiles at a single target.

[BeastyBaiter]

The FC3 aircraft aren't any less complicated to use in combat than the full fidelity planes. The only problem I have when taking on an F-15C on with the Mirage 2000C in MP is the fact that I'm facing 8x fire and forget spamraams with only 2x not even remotely fire and forget SARH missiles of comparable range. I suspect when the Hornet gets its spamraams, it will be the most loved/hated fighter in the game. It combines Su-27 like agility with the AIM-120. That's going to be a hard combo to beat. And once the engines are started, it is no more complicated than the F-15C is. So no, there isn't a disadvantage there.

[Lusekofte]

Well yeah, the F 15 . I find them similar to 109 pilots in BOS, they are there for the kills ,  but the 109 pilots gain experience while getting them, so now when allied planes that compete with the axis planes they can make them selves noticed. The F 15 pilots stagnated at the point they learned witch buttons to push. Their loss , I simply cannot understand the fun in it. It is like flying the KA 50 offline with tags on, you mark your missiles at a safe distance and fire them while auto hovering. Fun relaxed no brain waste of time maybe, but in the long run very boring, to me at least. But there is people loving it for hours every day. And one just have to accept it

[nirvi]

AIM-9X and AIM-120 coming in August:

[AtomicP]

12 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Well yeah, the F 15 . I find them similar to 109 pilots in BOS, they are there for the kills ,  but the 109 pilots gain experience while getting them, so now when allied planes that compete with the axis planes they can make them selves noticed. The F 15 pilots stagnated at the point they learned witch buttons to push. Their loss , I simply cannot understand the fun in it. It is like flying the KA 50 offline with tags on, you mark your missiles at a safe distance and fire them while auto hovering. Fun relaxed no brain waste of time maybe, but in the long run very boring, to me at least. But there is people loving it for hours every day. And one just have to accept it

 

As much as I enjoy FC3, the picking of abstract targets on the radar, pressing a button a few times, and waiting just doesn't work for me. I do like the speed though so maybe I'm more of an aerobatics guy for jets. Also I don't have the time to learn so many systems any more. 

 

At least in BoX you get to see the whites of their smoke as you stick a few pounds of lead into them!

On 7/9/2018 at 8:18 PM, Gambit21 said:

 

Thanks Beasty,

 

Regarding BoX editor - It was never meant to be publicly available originally. It’s vastly more powerful than the DCS editor, but more difficult to learn. I wouldn’t trade it as I can get it to do just about anything you can think of. DCS editor is simpler but limited by comparison.

 

If I get the raw materials I might make a DCS campaign down the road. I really like the idea of Red Flag or Top Gun type scenarios. If there were more Red Flag missions available for the F-15 (rather than one campaign only last time I looked) I might be in already. 

 

Content is a big problem.

 

Is there any way to make the editor have a 'basic' and 'advanced' mode such that it fits somewhere between the QMB and the full editor? I had a reasonable grasp of the Il-2 1946 FMB, but the BoX one remains a mystery to me at present.

[Gambit21]

Atomic - you just have to put a little time in. There is help available to get you rolling.

 

Don't believe the snivelers - the logic isn’t that complicated.

You can pm me if you want more guidance on the matter.

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Don't believe the snivelers - the logic isn’t that complicated.

 

 

In fact I learned the A 10 C on 3 days, that is startup and weapon systems. But it is easily forgotten as things are if you do not learn the theory at first. But if you stick to it a while things make sense . You understand why you have to do this and that. Learning a module lets say the L 39 . Absolute wonderful module both for airshow and weapon platform. It is not more complicated than any plane in BOX, Systems and just about everything is more complex, but for the flying and operating it , take you no time. And your ability of situational awareness is as always the most important

[Gambit21]

Luse - I was speaking of the BoX editor - but that is impressive.

 

 

[CanadaOne]

2 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Don't believe the snivelers - the logic isn’t that complicated.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Luse - I was speaking of the BoX editor - . . .

 

 

 

 

Please stop spreading negativity in the forums by deriding your fellow site members with disparaging remarks.

 

Rule 7, sir. Rule 7.  

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Luse - I was speaking of the BoX editor - but that is impressive.

 

 

I get headache by it, mostly because I cannot find the logic in it. I was a avid user in FMB on old IL 2 and COD. Once you learned it you could progress with speed. I can make a simple mission but I do not progress further out of frustration. But that is of cource a couple of years ago. Might become better now. Because when I tried to get to grips with it,  I got shut down , things really did not work. So I am very impressed with what you guys are doing.  But your statement goes for modules in DCS swell. It is simple once you get the logic behind it

[BM357_TinMan]

For me, I absolutely love the attention to systems detail that each DCS aircraft module has.  Unfortunately, that is as far as I go with DCS.  I really want to use it but find it is much too time consuming to use as a single player.

 

Plus, my interest in combat aviation does not extend past the Sabre/Mig 15bis, and DCS focuses more on more modern jets.

So, until DCS produces more WWII stuff, my time is better spent in IL2 GB

(aside-I don't care about clickable cockpits, I don't use them.  However, I DO like that hovering the mouse over the thing tells you what it is; that is helpful)

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

 

 

 

Please stop spreading negativity in the forums by deriding your fellow site members with disparaging remarks.

 

Rule 7, sir. Rule 7.  

 

I will reiterate my remark about people sniveling. Nice try though.

Anyhoo, this not the place to discuss this.

Feel free to meet me in the complaints section.

[CanadaOne]

28 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

I will reiterate my remark about people sniveling. Nice try though.

Anyhoo, this not the place to discuss this.

Feel free to meet me in the complaints section.

 

 

I'm not permitted. Therefore: "Pffffft!

 

As for DCS, love the Persian Gulf map and the two new Big Azz Concrete Airfields in the recent update. And with DCS's great in-game, user friendly mission builder, it's super easy and fun to set up a variety of F-86 (bought on sale) vs. Mig 15 missions. Korea-over-the-desert, as it were.

 

Gotta admit, if you choose the time of day and weather correctly, the lighting in DCS on that map is freaking awesome!

[Lusekofte]

21 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

Gotta admit, if you choose the time of day and weather correctly, the lighting in DCS on that map is freaking awesome!

 

That is essential, mid day to see it is just too bright. and reducing gamma make the cockpit in my MI 8 very dark

[Lusekofte]

Flying Oilfield campaign for the 4 time I just finished the 15 mission  with a selfmade challenge. I stayed in hoover 700 mars above ground in dense fog using only the instrument with a sling load  for over a minute in the MI 8. This is my favorite chopper and I have flown it a lot. Thing is I did this without any loss of altitude steady speed reduction. it was such a perfect flying that I probably could not do it again. This is the kind of things I love about DCS and flying in general. Once in a while , seldom as it is , I have a moment or two that I shine as a pilot. To me it is the ultimate happiness and joy. These moments are rare and precious for me. I cannot count the numbers I succumbed to a burning pile caused by Vortex . Or other easily but stupid mistakes

[dburne]

1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:

Flying Oilfield campaign for the 4 time I just finished the 15 mission  with a selfmade challenge. I stayed in hoover 700 mars above ground in dense fog using only the instrument with a sling load  for over a minute in the MI 8. This is my favorite chopper and I have flown it a lot. Thing is I did this without any loss of altitude steady speed reduction. it was such a perfect flying that I probably could not do it again. This is the kind of things I love about DCS and flying in general. Once in a while , seldom as it is , I have a moment or two that I shine as a pilot. To me it is the ultimate happiness and joy. These moments are rare and precious for me. I cannot count the numbers I succumbed to a burning pile caused by Vortex . Or other easily but stupid mistakes

 

 

That is what makes it all worthwhile!

I have been trying to better my F/A 18-C Carrier landings, but have since been distracted with this latest version of Il2 Great Battles.

Ugh too many great things to do, too little time. And I am retired LOL.

Edited July 26, 2018 by dburne

[Wolf8312]

12 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Flying Oilfield campaign for the 4 time I just finished the 15 mission  with a selfmade challenge. I stayed in hoover 700 mars above ground in dense fog using only the instrument with a sling load  for over a minute in the MI 8. This is my favorite chopper and I have flown it a lot. Thing is I did this without any loss of altitude steady speed reduction. it was such a perfect flying that I probably could not do it again. This is the kind of things I love about DCS and flying in general. Once in a while , seldom as it is , I have a moment or two that I shine as a pilot. To me it is the ultimate happiness and joy. These moments are rare and precious for me. I cannot count the numbers I succumbed to a burning pile caused by Vortex . Or other easily but stupid mistakes

 

I'm really going to sit down soon and learn the MI8 properly. It's my second favorite after the Gazelle though I stongly suspect due to how much I already like it, it could quite easily be number 1 one day, if I take the time to study it in depth. Love DCS helicopters!

[Guest deleted@30725]

On 7/24/2018 at 5:19 AM, LuseKofte said:

I was wondering the same, actually some say 16 is to little, absolutely much better than 8, but when I built my new PC I put in 32, based on advice from DCS community

 

This was asked ages ago. I did a comparison on the DCS forums with photos (long since deleted) My gaming pc had 16GB RAM and only because I ran a lot of virtual machines. But if I loaded just DCS it would use less than 8GB. Something like 6 or less if my memory is right. Not 8 anyway. Heck, I only ever used 16GB of RAM when I ran the vms. I ran same pc with 8GB RAM for a while and never had an issue. 32GB RAM is pointless unless you need to do stuff that  needs lots of memory and then we're talking about big video edit projects and rendering.

 

But maybe 16GB is too little if you have 30 browser tabs open. are converting video footage and are stream four youtube videos at once while trying to play dcs also. I even left il2 bos running once and I didn't run out of ram and my i5 didn't really care that it was open.  (Not part of the test)

Edited July 28, 2018 by deleted@30725

[BeastyBaiter]

News:

Yak-52 will be released in August. F/A-18C will get AIM-120 and AIM-9X in August while the Helmet Mounted Queuing system will come in late August or September.

 

Source: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3579278&postcount=152

[Lusekofte]

6 hours ago, BFBunny said:

But maybe 16GB is too little if you have 30 browser tabs open.

 

I think you are right, my old pc had 18 gb of Ram and did well in DCS,  And it did well in a short period of 8 ram, Still I think boosting his PC to 16 is a good idea. I am not totally satisfied with the performance of my new PC either, got som small stutter or lag now and then. I guess I can do somethings with the settings, but haven't really bothered yet

[Lusekofte]

Started over the border campaign, I must say Caukasus is improved

 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2018 by LuseKofte

[Leon_Portier]

Just got into DCS with the F-5 and it leaves a very bad impression. In the single player department I got 8 Missions for my expensive plane and 2 user made campaigns which dont work. The Multiplayer is so unstable, I can barely reach the runway to take off without crashes of the game, otherwise It laggs so hard it pushes me into buildings.

[BeastyBaiter]

You must have joined a potato server. MP has been working well ever since they shifted off 1.5. I agree on the campaigns though. I don't think I've ever gotten more than 2 missions into one before getting bored. I wasn't aware the F-5 even had a campaign.

 

In terms of actual news, the Hornet now has spamrams.

Edited August 1, 2018 by BeastyBaiter

[Blooddawn1942]

Easyer then stealing a childs candy... ?

 

[Sokol1]

 

[Blooddawn1942]

Carrier TO isn´t a problem too.

 

 

Landing on a street...

 

[Feathered_IV]

Cold start: Check

Land on carrier: Check

Takeoff and forced landing: Check

Wonder what else there is to do: Check

*EXIT GAME*

[Lusekofte]

Wonderful  

thx for the heads up I will now fly the Yak 52 for a little while

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Feathered_IV said:

Wonder what else there is to do: Check

 *EXIT GAME*

I say the same as PO 2 in this game, but lack of interest might be a obstacle for you

[Rolling_Thunder]

1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:

I say the same as PO 2 in this game, but lack of interest might be a obstacle for you

Lack of weapons for D Combat S might be another.

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Rolling_Thunder said:

Lack of weapons for D Combat S might be another.

Yes but that you know before you buy it. So I really do not understand the problem. I find DS a good recreation flight sim. Yak 52 suit me fine . I simply do not get the suprise some people have finding out after they bought the module.

Do not get me wrong, I get it that some simply do not like DCS, because I have the same feelings about BOX. 

I

 

Edited August 4, 2018 by LuseKofte

[Danziger]

1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:

Do not get me wrong, I get it that some simply do not like DCS, because I have the same feelings about BOX. 

I

 

So why constantly hang out on the forum of a game you don't like? 

[Gambit21]

Is the carrier always so lifeless?

Someone post a pic of an active, in-service carrier please.

[Lusekofte]

28 minutes ago, Danziger said:

So why constantly hang out on the forum of a game you don't like? 

 

So you mean I am not entitled to? why are you in a suforum you have no interest of?

I do not fly BOX but I bought all they got. One day something interesting will pop up , and I be there to see it. 

I flown probably more than you, there is not much more to do for me. I might get VR goggles and have some free flights in FC . That is why I am still here, do not come here and show me the door. It is simply not your business

21 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Is the carrier always so lifeless?

 

 

I only flown choppers on cruisers and they are ghost ships, I almost miss those zombies walking in circles in BOX. good animation on humans are not the strength of DCS

Edited August 4, 2018 by LuseKofte

[Danziger]

17 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

 

So you mean I am not entitled to? why are you in a suforum you have no interest of?

I do not fly BOX but I bought all they got. One day something interesting will pop up , and I be there to see it. 

I flown probably more than you, there is not much more to do for me. I might get VR goggles and have some free flights in FC . That is why I am still here, do not come here and show me the door. It is simply not your business

I am not showing you anything. Maybe you don't understand? I was just trying to understand why someone would waste time here if they dislike IL*2.