DCS

[Lusekofte]

I fly mainly MI 8  and are on my 5 th round on oilfield campaign. The few times I am online I do these logistical sorties and feel I am helpful doing them. I probably just as well could fly XP 11, but they lack damage model scenery and all other glorious stuff CFS games got. I want to fly hard core difficult navigation , I do not mind getting hunted by dangerous technology while doing it, Many times flying these missions online you never knew what hit you. The constant awareness in landing a sling load , on the verge of the lifting capability of the engines is many times much more exciting than a dogfight. Flying the MI 8 is a constant battle against Vortex R , attempt landing on a roof, you get  turbulent wind upwards when you approach the roof low, and have none on the side the roof is not. The complexity in the whole situation is amazing. But comparing two totally different simulators is on every level wrong.

People flying DCS is not more intellectual or more clever than those preferring less complex games. Being good in dogfight or tactics in BOX is just as or even more complex. The situational awareness needed require talent more than learning, it is as complex doing that as learning complex avionics. It is interest in what you do that determine how good you are

BTW i promised myself not to buy the F 18, snd today I did, I am a notorious collector of planes I do not fly. The only thing I do not own now is the G6 here, the Hawk and that Spanish trainer. I am so glad I am not into Warthunder, all though I am tempted to fly Dorniers there

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Pre-release trailer for Strait of Hormuz:

 

 

Edited April 14, 2018 by 216th_Lucas_From_Hell

[Lusekofte]

Yeah, I bought that one too today

[Wolf8312]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Yeah I have all the choppers  as well as several airplane modules, just the learning curve is so large I just have not put in the time with them to learn them. Most of my time is spent in Il-2 these days.

 

It's something of a paradox giving the complexity of DCS, but these days I fly BOS seriously, whenever I have the time, and DCS more like an arcade shooter when I just want to have fun and blow things up! One problem I have found with learning the DCS modules is how quickly you can forget what you have learned, and I think it really highlights why it's no use for pilots simply to learn what buttons to press and in which order. You have to learn no only what, and where everything is but also howsuch systems work and the science behind it all. Only then will you truly understand the start up proceedure and will never forget how to get things running from cold.

 

 

1 hour ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I fly mainly MI 8  and are on my 5 th round on oilfield campaign. The few times I am online I do these logistical sorties and feel I am helpful doing them. I probably just as well could fly XP 11, but they lack damage model scenery and all other glorious stuff CFS games got. I want to fly hard core difficult navigation , I do not mind getting hunted by dangerous technology while doing it, Many times flying these missions online you never knew what hit you. The constant awareness in landing a sling load , on the verge of the lifting capability of the engines is many times much more exciting than a dogfight. Flying the MI 8 is a constant battle against Vortex R , attempt landing on a roof, you get  turbulent wind upwards when you approach the roof low, and have none on the side the roof is not. The complexity in the whole situation is amazing. But comparing two totally different simulators is on every level wrong.

People flying DCS is not more intellectual or more clever than those preferring less complex games. Being good in dogfight or tactics in BOX is just as or even more complex. The situational awareness needed require talent more than learning, it is as complex doing that as learning complex avionics. It is interest in what you do that determine how good you are

BTW i promised myself not to buy the F 18, snd today I did, I am a notorious collector of planes I do not fly. The only thing I do not own now is the G6 here, the Hawk and that Spanish trainer. I am so glad I am not into Warthunder, all though I am tempted to fly Dorniers there

 

I could never get into non combat flight sims, I just couldn't do it, as I need something to do once I have learned how to fly/land. I never lose sight of the fact that I am above all else a gamer who want's to have fun. Still maybe there are other aspects to such games that I am not aware of. 

Never understood really how people can just load up flight sims just to fly from one place to the other, especially when its a modern plane and you have computer navigation systems. Different strokes I guess, same with euro truck simulator...

 

Edited April 14, 2018 by Wolf8312

[Lusekofte]

I am in need of a purpose when I do something. I love hiking in the mountains, but I cannot do it just to walk, have no purpose at all, hunting make you pay attention and have a purpose. So I did  hunt, but becoming over 50 years old , I start to feel sorry for those buggers I shot, so now I take pictures. Same with computer games, I need a purpose, this is why fighters are not in my interest, I do not fly and look for what to do. I need a goal and do it. So in reality if I carry bombs or cargo I am all in, I try to do it  like it should be done. And the environment should be historical correct. This is why I never enter public servers anymore, it is not playing out historical, I seldom get to fly with others and mostly get attacked by loners looking for easy prey. I find offline being more historical, and give a better atmosphere, even with idiotic AI behavior. 

DCS campaign give me this atmosphere, I am not in for accomplishment alone, I am in for the trip

[Monostripezebra]

Having a bit of regular fun in the F-5

 

 

[Herne]

On 4/14/2018 at 11:14 AM, 216th_Lucas_From_Hell said:

Pre-release trailer for Strait of Hormuz:

 

 

 

Wow !

Looks gorgeous

[ZachariasX]

The smoke effects are really, really good! Wow.

[Herne]

Any of you played the epsom campaign for the spit ? I can communicate with my flight while I am on the airfield, but when i'm on mission, I cant seem to give them orders, until after I have landed. Not sure what I am doing wrong ?

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Tried playing on 2.5.0 today after a long absence wanting to give a spin to one of my 2 Jets, the loading screen lasted like 10 minutes and then boom back to the menu, I tried again and had to give up...

I had a friend who has a PC that's even more powerful than mine same issue...we waste our precious time looking at a DCS loading screen trying to log on 104th server.

What an unplayable mess did those money grabbers even say anything about fixing that god awful memory leak?

I got 16Gb RAM and a decent CPU decent enought to play nearly any game on ultra yet DCS makes it impossible for me to play.

I'm so mad right now!!! I can't even fly the jets I pay for in multiplayer Im so glad I only had a F15 and a Suckoi for a couple Euros...

 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

Yes, I gave it a shot the other day after a long absence and it took a few minutes to load the mission. I was convinced it had crashed.

However, I did get into the mission though.

[Sokol1]

On 16/04/2018 at 6:54 AM, =FEW=Herne said:

Any of you played the epsom campaign for the spit ? I can communicate with my flight while I am on the airfield, but when i'm on mission, I cant seem to give them orders, until after I have landed. Not sure what I am doing wrong ?

 

Probable need change radio channel or are not using the correct COMM PTT command:

 

http://i.imgur.com/2tPGEGz.png

Edited April 21, 2018 by Sokol1

[Monostripezebra]

Having some more classic Hueytainment

 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

DCS P-47D cockpit [work in progress]

 

Even if it's one of my favorite planes, i doubt I'll get it in DCS. Gonna wait for Bodenplatte.

 

[Monostripezebra]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

DCS P-47D cockpit [work in progress]

 

Even if it's one of my favorite planes, i doubt I'll get it in DCS. Gonna wait for Bodenplatte.

 

It sounds like they are still working on it, though.. but WW2 gameplay in DCS needs a lot more then the admittedly great possible addition of a P47 to be somewhat coherent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/8dq7pa/p47_is_still_coming/

 

[LLv24_SukkaVR]

Try halving your preload radius setting so maps will load bit faster. Worked for me.

[BeastyBaiter]

4 hours ago, =FEW=Hauggy said:

Tried playing on 2.5.0 today after a long absence wanting to give a spin to one of my 2 Jets, the loading screen lasted like 10 minutes and then boom back to the menu, I tried again and had to give up...

I had a friend who has a PC that's even more powerful than mine same issue...we waste our precious time looking at a DCS loading screen trying to log on 104th server.

What an unplayable mess did those money grabbers even say anything about fixing that god awful memory leak?

I got 16Gb RAM and a decent CPU decent enought to play nearly any game on ultra yet DCS makes it impossible for me to play.

I'm so mad right now!!! I can't even fly the jets I pay for in multiplayer Im so glad I only had a F15 and a Suckoi for a couple Euros...

 

 

 

That's mostly 104th being stupid. I think they only have 1 mission in rotation currently and it uses about 3x as much VRAM as any other MP server I've hopped on. It actually might be more VRAM tbh, my 1080 TI only has 11GB of it and it maxes out several minutes before it finishes loading objects off my NVME.

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

DCS P-47D cockpit [work in progress]

 

Even if it's one of my favorite planes, i doubt I'll get it in DCS. Gonna wait for Bodenplatte.

 

 

DCS has a bad habit (IMHO) of posting renders in the 3D app, (Max) which of course will always look superior to the render in the game engine.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

1 hour ago, BeastyBaiter said:

 

That's mostly 104th being stupid. I think they only have 1 mission in rotation currently and it uses about 3x as much VRAM as any other MP server I've hopped on. It actually might be more VRAM tbh, my 1080 TI only has 11GB of it and it maxes out several minutes before it finishes loading objects off my NVME.

Alright thanks!

I actually made a fresh reinstall since someone told me that the updated game made him lag but reinstalling kinda fixed it.

Ill also try other servers...if I can find any thats popular enought without having like 200-300 ping...

Edited April 21, 2018 by =FEW=Hauggy

[DerNeueMensch]

10 minutes ago, =FEW=Hauggy said:

Alright thanks!

I actually made a fresh reinstall since someone told me that the updated game made him lag but reinstalling kinda fixed it.

Ill also try other servers...if I can find any thats popular enought without having like 200-300 ping...

You can load the mission in the mission editor first (and hit fly) and then connect to the server; that way the missionfile is in the cache. Should be able to connect pretty quickly then. However in order that you can load the mission you need to have played that mission already obviously. Since DCS automatically makes tracks, when you play mp, you can load a track file of that mission in the mission editor and start the mission that way, before you connect !!!

Edited April 21, 2018 by DerNeueMensch

[Monostripezebra]

And some more physics fun..

 

 

[Rolling_Thunder]

20 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

DCS P-47D cockpit [work in progress]

 

Even if it's one of my favorite planes, i doubt I'll get it in DCS. Gonna wait for Bodenplatte.

 

It's going to be out in Bodenplatte long, long before it sees the glaring light of the DCS sun.

[Feathered_IV]

The cockpit maker will have plenty of time to tweak those textures. 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

A MiG-21 update teaser, taken from the forums. Looking mighty fine!

 

 

 

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

On 4/23/2018 at 5:36 AM, Feathered_IV said:

The cockpit maker will have plenty of time to tweak those textures. 

 

Four score and seven years.

[Uufflakke]

On 23-4-2018 at 12:36 PM, Feathered_IV said:

The cockpit maker will have plenty of time to tweak those textures. 

 

36 minutes ago, Space_Ghost said:

 

Four score and seven years.

 

By that time we have moved already from Russia to the Lowlands (Operation Bodenplatte) to Pacific and then to the Mediterranean.

Biting dust in Tobruk. In 2025.

 

Now I realize it sounds awfully far away though... 

 

[dburne]

Pretty large update today:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3463558&postcount=8

 

Of particular note, they have locked Deferred Shading to On and can not be turned off, old rendering no longer supported.

This update is to the Open Beta.

 

The update also provides an " Offline Mode" now.

Edited April 25, 2018 by dburne

[MiloMorai]

On ‎4‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 10:06 AM, Uufflakke said:

 

 

By that time we have moved already from Russia to the Lowlands (Operation Bodenplatte) to Pacific and then to the Mediterranean.

Biting dust in Tobruk. In 2025.

 

Now I realize it sounds awfully far away though... 

 

 

Or your grandchildren's grandchildren might see a finished product.

[InProgress]

I wish dcs would make more helicopters

 

This one is my dream

 

And just found old trailer from 2016.. they are making it time to upgrade pc just to fly this one.

Edited April 26, 2018 by InProgress

[MarderIV]

On 4/14/2018 at 5:38 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Hawk and that Spanish trainer

 

This is uhh...

 

I don't know if you're still going to get these and I don't want to sling any kind of crap regarding these birds but - please do some research. Or a lot of research. Maybe even a post-grad thesis before taking out the ol' credit card and gobbling them up. To say that the Hawk is 'underwhelming' is like saying the Atlantic Ocean is 'damp'. 

 

If you've got the L-39 or the F-5E they're more than alright as trainers. Perhaps even better in terms of quality and in-game capability. (Or completeness. Or ability to thrive.... man I'm salty). 

[CanadaOne]

Morning.

 

DCS keeps crashing during the mission loadup screen, showing me an error, "unable to build metashaders". Do any of you DCS tech types know what this is about?

 

Thank you.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

Morning.

 

DCS keeps crashing during the mission loadup screen, showing me an error, "unable to build metashaders". Do any of you DCS tech types know what this is about?

 

Thank you.

 

I would try a repair.

[CanadaOne]

5 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

I would try a repair.

 

Could you point me to a good mechanic?

 

How do you repair a Steam install?

[dburne]

6 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Could you point me to a good mechanic?

 

How do you repair a Steam install?

 

DCS_updater.exe repair

 

I use the GUI Utility by SkateZilla myself for doing things like this, it has a repair option to run.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053

 

Not sure if it being a Steam version changes any of that...

Edited April 26, 2018 by dburne

[CanadaOne]

Just now, dburne said:

 

DCS_updater.exe repair

 

I use the GUI Utility by SkateZilla myself for doing things like this, it has a repair option to run.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160053

 

Nice. Thank you.

 

I found a "Check game files integrity" option on Steam, and if that does nothing I'll jump into what you suggest.

 

Thanks again!

[dburne]

1 minute ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Nice. Thank you.

 

I found a "Check game files integrity" option on Steam, and if that does nothing I'll jump into what you suggest.

 

Thanks again!

 

Good luck!!

You can also try deleting all your Metashader files and letting it build them all new again ( which it should do on the next launch).

They are located in your DCS directory in the Saved Games folder under your username.

[CanadaOne]

I've tried clearing out the files and updating my video card drivers but nothing works so far. And the repair tool you pointed me is for DCS install only, not for Steam which is what I have. But I appreciate the help with that anyway.

 

I'll keep farting around and see what's what. It's just since the 2.5.1 update a week ago (I assume), and I only tried playing a bit today and noticed the missions won't load because of the metashader error. Maybe there will be a hotfix.

 

Also, I might have just lost my mind, but I don't see the shader preference option in the graphics control screen anymore. I'll take a look again.

[Blutaar]

Are you sure you dont have the DCS_updater.exe in your \bin folder? That would be wierd.

 

If you have it you can repair your installation and change beta to release version and back if you want. Here is how you can do it just incase you didnt already know: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030

 

Edit: Nevermind. Im sorry, it seems to not work for steam users. Hope you will find another solution. 

 

*(The Information in this Guide Does Not Apply to STEAM)*

Edited April 26, 2018 by Ishtaru

[BeastyBaiter]

A Chinese J11 variant of the Su-27 family was added to FC3 today, it has R-77's.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3466998&postcount=138 

 

[CanadaOne]

On ‎4‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 2:20 PM, Ishtaru said:

Are you sure you dont have the DCS_updater.exe in your \bin folder? That would be wierd.

 

If you have it you can repair your installation and change beta to release version and back if you want. Here is how you can do it just incase you didnt already know: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030

 

Edit: Nevermind. Im sorry, it seems to not work for steam users. Hope you will find another solution. 

 

*(The Information in this Guide Does Not Apply to STEAM)*

 

 

From the DCS forum:

 

**********************************************************

The metashader issue has been identified by the ED team

Moving DCS out of Program Files (x86) folder to a different location will fix this issue as a work around

A fix will be in the next patch

Thank you to all who helped test this.

********************************************************

 

Do you thgink I should just drag the DCS folder out of Steam and dump I in, say, Documents?