DCS

[coconut]

How long is January in Russia?!

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Three years, coco. Julian calendar and all that!

 

So as I was saying, the week between New Year and Christmas, and a couple of days before and after it, are very much down time.

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

As being said in the Facebook announcement, Beta-version 1.5 will be updated to version 2.5. Current version 2.2 will be removed and stable version 1.5 will no longer be supported. All you need is one version in the future, which is the actual Beta 1.5.

I only have 2.2 for Normandy ... I guess I will be adjusting options and remapping everything again ... 

 

[ODonovan]

A company primarily interested in building modern jet simulations salvages a failed Kickstarter, delivers top-notch models of popular fighters, then announces that it's actually a viable business and that more will come.

 

Reaction: "A-holes, they should do more!". Half-empty bottles and all that...

 

Also, I can't help but notice the irony in criticising the failure of a Kickstarter project to deliver, and at the same time have a Star Citizen logo in one's signature.

 

A company which voluntarily took on the task of creating a complete WWII sim, delivers on only part of the promises, then milks the WWII sim community for money to support their other product.  Looks like more than a half empty bottle to me.  Looks like fraud.

 

And as far as Star Citizen goes, it's the most transparent game ever.  The devs publish multiple updates each week and have been able to add more features the playerbase is perfectly fine with.  Sorry if you're butthurt about something, but don't blame Chris Roberts.  He told us he wanted to build the best game ever and he's doing just that, all the while making more and more of the game available for folks to play and test.

 

 

 

Lets get this straight. The kickstarter didn't "fail". It was successfully funded. Its all here

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944

Have a look at the part headed "the team" right under the header is

"The project is a joint venture between RRG Studios and Eagle Dynamics."

ED did not salvage a failed kickstarter they were jointly involved in a successful kickstarter. They then decided not enough folk were interested so they cut the rewards let their moderators throw out excuses and blame. Painted themselves as white knights and folk believed it. And still believe it because theyre too lazy to look for the truth and rather believe the moderators at ED

Edit

And yes they should do more because they promised so much more in the kickstarter. Campaigns included for each aircraft etc etc

 

BINGO!  Thank you, @Rolling_Thunder...a voice of reason, aka someone who didn't drink the Kool-Aid.  BTW, they didn't like me very much at the ED forums.  They deleted a couple of my posts that didn't break any rules, simply because I asked honest, non-accusatory questions.  Then they threatened to ban me if I kept "disrupting."

 

 

 

Don't forget WWIIOL - very, very similar.  Except they run a kickstarter/gofundme every 8 months.

 

Pardon me?  WWIIOL has run two campaigns, for only a few thousand dollars each, to update their hardware and software.  This isn't even the "old" group of devs.  This is a group of players who rescued the game and kept it running.  They're now improving the game and adding new content.  They've MORE than delivered on every promise and every dollar spent has been done wisely, with the game in mind.  If you can't tell the difference between them and what ED did, how can you even find your way out of bed in the morning?

 

 

 

BUU HUUU ,Oh no!  now you make them sad, and bankruptcy awaits them.

 

Are you five years old?  You certainly seem to have that maturity level.  It won't bankrupt them, but I speak with my wallet.  So, you're saying you're paying for WWII content knowing the money they make is going to support what's basically another game and that's okay with you because you play that game too?  How rude and selfish!  I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you ONLY flew WWII sims, as some of us do.

 

 

 

 

-Irish

Edited December 16, 2017 by ODonovan

[Tuesday]

Pardon me?  WWIIOL has run two campaigns, for only a few thousand dollars each, to update their hardware and software.  This isn't even the "old" group of devs.  This is a group of players who rescued the game and kept it running.  They're now improving the game and adding new content.  They've MORE than delivered on every promise and every dollar spent has been done wisely, with the game in mind.  If you can't tell the difference between them and what ED did, how can you even find your way out of bed in the morning?

Not sure who crapped your Cheerios this morning, but apparently we struck a pretty big nerve for you. 

 

Also not sure where I personally insulted you to the point that you have to make a dig at me like that.  I believed in the new CRS when they took over, but the exceedingly toxic community drove me from that game - thanks for reminding me here that it still exists.  All I did was point out a game in your signature and their multiple recent fundraising campaigns.

 

There have been a number of WWIIOL die-hards that have come to this game and forums and exploded for no reason.  Fortunately, that attitude isn't tolerated over here.

 

Back to topic...

 

Anybody else have 2.2 crash on start up all of a sudden?

[ram0506]

Folks, stop it! This thread is called "DCS News". I already said it once. Say it now again, but won`t repeat it again. Next time when this thread derails it will be locked down.

[ram0506]

I only have 2.2 for Normandy ... I guess I will be adjusting options and remapping everything again ... 

 

 

It should be possible to make a clean install of Version 2.5 and then to take your Settings/key bindings from Version 2.2 before deleting it.

In this case (installing 2.5 with 2.2 still present on your drive) the already existing data for the Normandy map (of your Version 2.2) should be transfered automatically to the new Version 2.5 when installing it.

[DD_Arthur]

So 2.5 at the end of January?  Excellent news.

 

Despite all the whining, DCS is the place for propellorless flying.

[Gambit21]

It is Arthur - much better than all the other options out there for jet combat.

[BeastyBaiter]

Yep, DCS for modern-ish, IL2 for WW2 and hopefully WW1 soon. In any case, hopefully they are able to keep their word on getting 2.5 out sometime next month. They don't have a very good track record with such things, but we'll see what happens. DCS 2.2 is actually pretty smooth right now in VR, I'm eager to see what happens with the caucuses from a performance standpoint. It's always painful hopping on 104th and getting 19 fps with an i7-8700k at 5.0 GHz and a GTX 1080 TI compared to 90 fps over NTTR at the exact same settings.

[Jade_Monkey]

Very tempted to try the Mirage. Anyone who has used it recommends it? any big issues with that module?

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

JM, I'm a big fan of the Mirage. It's largely issue free, since they recently pushed a major revision addressing most bugs. I waited until that to buy it and I haven't flown any other module for a week thanks to that.

 

The campaign is a mix of action and training with a compelling plot and good triggers. I'd say go for it if you like the aircraft itself

[ST_ami7b5]

...

 

Anybody else have 2.2 crash on start up all of a sudden?

Not here...

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Lads, settle down, crack open a beer and relax. It's a video game we're talking about, nothing worth getting this aggravated for

 

Mirage this, Mirage that...

 

Edited December 17, 2017 by 216th_Lucas_From_Hell

[Monostripezebra]

Anybody else have 2.2 crash on start up all of a sudden?

 

 

I had problems directly after the update.. game would not start up but crash violently on the steam version (which I use for nevada). A steam integrity check on the files got rid of that. For the standalone version you can also do that with the updater.

[ST_ami7b5]

I had problems directly after the update.. game would not start up but crash violently on the steam version (which I use for nevada). A steam integrity check on the files got rid of that. For the standalone version you can also do that with the updater.

I don't have Nevada, just Normandy and it went fine there...

Non-Steam version.

Edited December 17, 2017 by ST_ami7b5

[Gambit21]

Lads, settle down, crack open a beer and relax. It's a video game we're talking about, nothing worth getting this aggravated for

 

Mirage this, Mirage that...

 

 

That's a good sounding module from listening to you talk about it - being an older aircraft, you're not messing around with MFD's and such correct?

[Jade_Monkey]

I might wait for it to be discounted. I get excited on a Sunday with DCS and forget about it next day.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Gambit, the Mirage 2000C is all gauges bar the radar display. If to go on depth...

 

The INS is a little clumsy at times - dead easy to follow a route, a bit of a PITA if you ever need to make changes on the go (rare, but it happens).

 

The radar has very good range and is very straightforward - three repetition modes for different scanning needs, runs both 'single target track' and 'track while scan' methods, plus three short range automatic scanning modes for dogfight. You can tune its behaviour to fit specific needs but the default settings work just fine.

 

Ground attack is limited to dumb ammunition so it's all point and shoot.

 

The start-up sequence is easy but a little lengthy thanks to the INS. I wrote it down on two sheets of paper in fairly large letters but I believe I could do it without the checklist if prompted.

 

A2A refuelling is incredibly hard, VFR landings are stupidly easy (flight path indicator onto the centre line, 14 AoA, touchdown), and the autopilot is good but a limited. I still haven't figured out how to properly use the ILS approach mode but one day I'll get it.

 

Going guns in it makes you feel invincible as long as you don't get too low or slow. I must confess I haven't fired too many missiles to assess their usefulness but in the F-5 the Super 530D always hit me whenever launched so there's that.

[Gambit21]

Thank you for the detailed answer Lucas...that's the kind of jet I could justify spending time with.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

The Mirage is excellent. I can't criticize the module itself. 

 

However, it is hurt quite severely by the usual DCS problem, namely the lack of context.

Edited December 18, 2017 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[Danziger]

Finally got Nevada 2.2 download installed activated and all my modules downloaded installed and activated. I took up the Viggen and the MiG-21bis and Su-27. All I feel is meh...

 

Idk it just doesn't draw me in like IL*2 and RoF. Plus the bugs with the MiG. Thinking of buying the Mi-8 and trying out helicopters again.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Finally got Nevada 2.2 download installed activated and all my modules downloaded installed and activated. I took up the Viggen and the MiG-21bis and Su-27. All I feel is meh...

 

Idk it just doesn't draw me in like IL*2 and RoF. Plus the bugs with the MiG. Thinking of buying the Mi-8 and trying out helicopters again.

 

I really, really want to love DCS but it just doesn't grab me by the booboo.

[Dutchvdm]

I really, really want to love DCS but it just doesn't grab me by the booboo.

 

Same here, but i never get past the plane tutorials, and then i'm a bit torn about what to do next. I guess i need to be entertained by a careermode or a MP online war to make me want to come back. That's not DCS's fault, but i think it's just not for me. I will check out 2,5 though. 

 

Grt M

[Lusekofte]

Thank you for the detailed answer Lucas...that's the kind of jet I could justify spending time with.

The Mirage have a devoted fanbase, and got praise , I understand its bugs are liveable with and are getting fixed.  I have it and understand that by European Eula I own it and can give it away .

By ED Eula I can not, so if someone can clearify that , I would gladly give mine to you, I never Flew it, but have activated it

I really, really want to love DCS but it just doesn't grab me by the booboo.

 

I really want to love it too, so far I only have affection and pleasure flying the choppers, I hope one day I can pick up a plane and fly MP and enjoy it, for now I only take a occationally free flight 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Luse, ED do not allow the sharing of keys any more - in other words, you cannot gift any keys, activated or not. Seen as they are based in Russia, European Union laws do not apply.

[Jade_Monkey]

I really, really want to love DCS but it just doesn't grab me by the booboo.

Same

[Lusekofte]

 

 

Luse, ED do not allow the sharing of keys any more - in other words, you cannot gift any keys, activated or not. Seen as they are based in Russia, European Union laws do not apply.

 

It is a damn shame, and it really trigger a revolt button within my mind. This rule affect my personal freedom. I care less about the money and such, but what I own I own, and I should have the liberty to give it away 

Andbefore anyone reply here and say it is the same, people have given their account away in cooperation with 777 , So it can be done if you put your mind to it

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Technically it can be done, but you need to contact their support with a request (preferably before buying, just in case) and make clear you want to gift a key to someone. Since you have activated yours, however, it'll make it trickier.

[Gambit21]

The Mirage is excellent. I can't criticize the module itself. 

 

However, it is hurt quite severely by the usual DCS problem, namely the lack of context.

 

...always comes back to that.

The Mirage have a devoted fanbase, and got praise , I understand its bugs are liveable with and are getting fixed.  I have it and understand that by European Eula I own it and can give it away .

By ED Eula I can not, so if someone can clearify that , I would gladly give mine to you, I never Flew it, but have activated it

 

I really want to love it too, so far I only have affection and pleasure flying the choppers, I hope one day I can pick up a plane and fly MP and enjoy it, for now I only take a occationally free flight 

 

I appreciate that Luse - even though it's not allowed apparently.

I get very little stick time right now anyways with the campaign build I'm working on.

Thanks just the same.

[dburne]

Some new VR settings coming in DCS 2.5.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=198338

 

Use Hand Controllers will be interesting.

Edited December 20, 2017 by dburne

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I wonder how will they get around that. DCS is already pretty button-heavy even if you only map the buttons present on the aircraft's actual HOTAS. Are users going to ditch the throttle and stick for the hand controllers, or will they alternate between them as needed?

[coconut]

The force ipd option would be useful in il2, seeing how it gets wrong for a number of headsets

[VeryOldMan]

I'm curious how the P-47 - despite numerous flying examples still being in existence, can become so difficult to produce.  When extinct types like the 109K or actual Me-262s are all OK.

Probably due to germans  blood bound fanatic devotion to procedures and documentation of everything  

[Jade_Monkey]

Are they actually making a P47 or have plans changed?

[MiloMorai]

Are they actually making a P47 or have plans changed?

It is stalled as some data required is missing.

[Sokol1]

It is stalled as some data required is missing.

 

In fact burned: https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/when-republic-aviation-folded-69197851/

Edited December 20, 2017 by Sokol1

[Urra]

In fact burned: https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/when-republic-aviation-folded-69197851/

So freaking sad when you read it. Just unbelievable. One day that is exactly how flights to the moon will be treated. And forgotten.

Edited December 20, 2017 by TunaEatsLion

[BeastyBaiter]

I wonder how will they get around that. DCS is already pretty button-heavy even if you only map the buttons present on the aircraft's actual HOTAS. Are users going to ditch the throttle and stick for the hand controllers, or will they alternate between them as needed?

 

I suspect it's just for pushing buttons in the pit, though the Rift and WMR sets do have dual analog sticks too. Either way, it isn't a big deal from a play-ability standpoint, but it's a nice option to have. Might be easier than messing with the mouse while in VR, not that the mouse is hard to find for me. This could also help in marketing the game to VR users who wouldn't otherwise consider it. Being able to slap the "touch control" + "full controller" tags into the steam description might drive a few extra sales.

[DD_Arthur]

So freaking sad when you read it. Just unbelievable. One day that is exactly how flights to the moon will be treated. And forgotten.

 

  They really did destroy the whole company archive? 

 

  Astonishing