=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 It's really weird. Also, did anyone try 2.2 and how do you feel about performance ? I had on average 70+ FPS when flying in missions but now its down to 50+ FPS for the most of time which drops dramatically close to my low end of g-sync range. In terms of ww2 machines, Spitfire and P-51 (only two I've tested, had no time to check 190) there were introduced new sounds and effects. Tracers now look really well. But the unfortunate downside of that is P-51 cockpit that has way too much reflections obstructing actual view.
Tuesday Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 I only had a chance to start up and take off in the Spitfire, but from the quick sortie I found the sounds to be a big improvement.
Sokol1 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 They came up with... that? Digital COMBAT Simulator. The true meaning of "DCS" is Digital Cockpit Simulator. 3
SeaW0lf Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) But the unfortunate downside of that is P-51 cockpit that has way too much reflections obstructing actual view. Yeah, the P-51 is bad now with all the glare and reflections. Using deferred shading. It is to washed out without it. I did not fly with MSI Afterburner, then I don't know the frame rate, but it looked OK to me (single player). Multiplayer was almost unplayable. Might be the server connection. Another thing that I noticed is that when you cross the sun, like when doing loops (belly towards the sun), the whole screen gets dark and there are some huge glares on the canopy. It is not gforces. The impression is that they wanted to simulate the sun shadow / dark cockpit, but the map gets dark as well. In a couple of instances it got almost totally black. It was not due to gforces because I was at the tip of the loop and starting to descend and I could see the contour of the windshield frame. The haze is bad now as well. The whole map is washed out because of it. It looks suffocating just like Kuban was (or is, I don't fly it for a while). The sun is worse now as well. Both the old one and the new one don't have glare, but the new one has some cheesy rays. In general, a big setback in terms of graphics. Aircraft contacts seems to have a more solid feel, like when BOX introduced the new shadows, but the sun reflection (wings lighting up) don't seem to have improved. I saw some glares, but just when they are near the sun, just like before. After flying BOX for a couple months almost everyday, DCS with this new patch don't look good at all for me. Edited December 10, 2017 by SeaW0lf
PainGod85 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Reactions are really blown out of proportion. Yes, it was a week of hints after some decent time of silence. But a week of preparing is not comparable to how long other modules are promoted (and delayed). But the memes keep on giving...
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) To talk about something other than the Eagle, I got myself the Mirage 2000C today. Words cannot describe how in love I am with it. I've been a Mirage fanboy since I was young, but the simulation RAZBAM provides of it is out of this world. Such a pleasant and fun plane to handle, deadly but also simple, and above all so incredibly stylish! With five minutes on the stick you can already repeat this whole aerobatic routine yourself, and look cooler than you've ever looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePkICvxuTvA It'll take a P-39 to steal its thunder. Edited December 10, 2017 by 216th_Lucas_From_Hell 1
Urra Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 To talk about something other than the Eagle, I got myself the Mirage 2000C today. Words cannot describe how in love I am with it. I've been a Mirage fanboy since I was young, but the simulation RAZBAM provides of it is out of this world. Such a pleasant and fun plane to handle, deadly but also simple, and above all so incredibly stylish! With five minutes on the stick you can already repeat this whole aerobatic routine yourself, and look cooler than you've ever looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePkICvxuTvA It'll take a P-39 to steal its thunder. The 2000C is the one that really makes think about getting back to the be headset. It just makes you feel like you are in the cockpit like no other.
ram0506 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Wasn`t much interested in the Mirage, but one year ago I gave it a try. And it became my favorite module. Especially in VR the feeling of sitting in this graceful cockpit is beyond description. Only drawback is the bad readability of some of the smaller parts in there, but with VR-zooming it`s doable. Training missions and campaign made by Baltic Dragon are fantastic.
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Yeah, the P-51 is bad now with all the glare and reflections. Using deferred shading. It is to washed out without it. I did not fly with MSI Afterburner, then I don't know the frame rate, but it looked OK to me (single player). Multiplayer was almost unplayable. Might be the server connection. Another thing that I noticed is that when you cross the sun, like when doing loops (belly towards the sun), the whole screen gets dark and there are some huge glares on the canopy. It is not gforces. The impression is that they wanted to simulate the sun shadow / dark cockpit, but the map gets dark as well. In a couple of instances it got almost totally black. It was not due to gforces because I was at the tip of the loop and starting to descend and I could see the contour of the windshield frame. The haze is bad now as well. The whole map is washed out because of it. It looks suffocating just like Kuban was (or is, I don't fly it for a while). The sun is worse now as well. Both the old one and the new one don't have glare, but the new one has some cheesy rays. In general, a big setback in terms of graphics. Aircraft contacts seems to have a more solid feel, like when BOX introduced the new shadows, but the sun reflection (wings lighting up) don't seem to have improved. I saw some glares, but just when they are near the sun, just like before. After flying BOX for a couple months almost everyday, DCS with this new patch don't look good at all for me. On the other hand Spitfire looks completely different, the lighting and colors made a world difference for me in the cockpit. And canopy glass is much cleaner than before. I dont understand why they make such differences between the glass in various aircraft...
Feathered_IV Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Just catching up on the news. Wow, if ever there was an aircraft more undeserving of the name Eagle... 1
150GCT_Veltro Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 With the last update M2000C is good again. Now it need to be upgraded / completed in the avionic. It's not really competitive because of the "losing lock" problem, but it's a must for Mirage 2000 lovers.
Monostripezebra Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 thanks for the heads up.. I am on the edge of getting the mirage. meanwhile I still laught at the "slippery slope" exitement over a small biplane over at hoggit. I find that utmost hillarious that people are concerned some accomplished devs trying something out and trying to get some cash with a civi aerobatics plane might lead to the destruction of the whole sim and it´s designated miliatry character... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNY69tzJ_w 1
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 For zebrabatics, the Mirage has a very nasty tendency of entering a flat spin and/or suffering an engine flame-out when approaching 0 speed vertically. In my first free flight I figured I'd try Kvochur's bell to see how it happened in a delta, suddenly the plane was sliding on its tail with all kinds of warnings sounding, HUD off and no prospect of regaining control. After getting the knack to it, now it's fun to do it within recoverable parameters and try to re-light the engine before running out of altitude.
SeaW0lf Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 I dont understand why they make such differences between the glass in various aircraft... I would only imagine if both P-51 and Spit have different solutions for lightening, but strangely enough they are from the same team. Weird, but I think the blackening of the screen to mimic the sun shadow is a bit too much. Does it happen with the Spit as well using deferred shading?
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Could they be simulating glare rather than shadows?
SeaW0lf Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Could they be simulating glare rather than shadows? I'm not sure, because you see the glare (big white glare on the canopy), but the screen gets dark blue and in some cases it gets pretty black (map included). Sounds like an outer-space experience Might be a bug, I'm not sure. Below is the screenshot. The first one is coming out of the loop (starting to descend). The other one is near the end of the descent, just to compare with the real look of the map. No Gforces involved. I was doing very low force loops. Regarding the black screen, I've seen worse when I was flying yesterday. I could only see the windshield contour. EDIT* - I was doing the loops directly facing the sun. The other way around gets black as well, but I think that when facing the sun it gets worse. Edited December 10, 2017 by SeaW0lf
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Was this online ? If so I dunno whats more funny, the fact that he was reduced to a flying engine or the fact that he did not react at all to being hit
johncage Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 thanks for the heads up.. I am on the edge of getting the mirage. meanwhile I still laught at the "slippery slope" exitement over a small biplane over at hoggit. I find that utmost hillarious that people are concerned some accomplished devs trying something out and trying to get some cash with a civi aerobatics plane might lead to the destruction of the whole sim and it´s designated miliatry character... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNY69tzJ_w these accomplished devs are short handed and take 5 years to release a map. the concern is justified. evidence>feelings. and the evidence is that by the time anything worthwhile comes out for dcs, it'll be 2020
Veteran66 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 F/A-18C and DCS 2.5 preview: https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159781970930341/
dburne Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 F/A-18C and DCS 2.5 preview: https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/videos/10159781970930341/ Sweet!
Gambit21 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 To talk about something other than the Eagle, I got myself the Mirage 2000C today. Words cannot describe how in love I am with it. I've been a Mirage fanboy since I was young, but the simulation RAZBAM provides of it is out of this world. Such a pleasant and fun plane to handle, deadly but also simple, and above all so incredibly stylish! With five minutes on the stick you can already repeat this whole aerobatic routine yourself, and look cooler than you've ever looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePkICvxuTvA It'll take a P-39 to steal its thunder. Stop making me consider for a moment purchasing another DCS module...you came as close as you possibly could here. I think DCS would be more aptly named UASS - Unattended Air Show Simulator. On that note, they really should set up an air show on the Nevada map, with the crowd, static display aircraft etc. I mean that's really the best use of most of the aircraft at this point. I'd actually be into that I think.
nirvi Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Now on YouTube too: Edited December 11, 2017 by nirvi
Danziger Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Now on YouTube too: [MEDIA=youtube]WQdchpe9NVA[/MEDIA] Now on YouTube too: [MEDIA=youtube]WQdchpe9NVA[/MEDIA] Yes this is very pretty. Can't wait for 2.5. Edited December 11, 2017 by BorysVorobyov
Urra Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Damm! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7L4jPsbMuc&feature=youtu.be&t=70 Flying toaster confirmed.
No_85_Gramps Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 My preference in DCS is for the Huey and Gazelle (still learning, but lots of fun). Although that Harrier is looking pretty nice. I probably won't make any purchases until after 2.5 gets released. I want to gauge the performance first. Only problem I see is that the Harrier would probably reduce my time in Box, and I'm not sure I want that.
WWGriphos Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Performance in 2.2 has been significantly improved. Bodes well for 2.5.
dburne Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Performance in 2.2 has been significantly improved. Bodes well for 2.5. I had not flown DCS in a few weeks, after 2.2 I loaded up the instant action takeoff mission for the Spit in Normandy, and my VR performance has certainly improved.
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 I have the opposite result though. I have lost about 10-15 FPS and had to decrease MSAA from x4 to x2. On ED forums there is a discussion about performance of 2.2 and there is a variety of opinions. I really wonder what 2.5 will bring to the table in terms of performance.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 A little video I put together for fun. 3
DetCord12B Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Any news on a Kiowa? The rotary-wing side of the house doesn't get a lot of love. The true meaning of "DCS" is Digital Cockpit Simulator. I love DCS. For me, it fills that niche I need between Prepar3D's commercial flying with addons like PMDG, CS, Aerosoft Buses and jams those aspects with regards to complexity into to combat side of the house. As someone that owns DCS: WWII and its modules, I think they should leave that aspect to the professionals. It isn't even remotely fleshed out and I have serious doubts it ever will be. 1
Gambit21 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 As someone that owns DCS: WWII and its modules, I think they should leave that aspect to the professionals. It isn't even remotely fleshed out and I have serious doubts it ever will be. ...and jump on Korea before 777 trounces them there as well. With the speed at which DCS develops and releases content, they'd need to make that decision yesterday. I keep thinking about that MiG-15. It looks soooo nice.
TAAC_Blue Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Any news on a Kiowa? The rotary-wing side of the house doesn't get a lot of love. We may be in luck Detcord https://www.helisimmer.com/news/polychop-talks-future-shows-oh-58/ 1
DetCord12B Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) We may be in luck Detcord https://www.helisimmer.com/news/polychop-talks-future-shows-oh-58/ I think I may need to go clean out my pants. Like for real, that's more than exciting. That birds saved my life not once, not twice, but thrice. Times two in Afghanistan and once in Iraq. Super excited now matey, many thanks for that bit of info. EDIT - Any info on the systems? Edited December 13, 2017 by detcord12b
TAAC_Blue Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Nope, just stumbled across it today. They haven't announced if its gonna be a DCS Module of for another sim. I've got some Kiowa stories too man...always loved those birds.
Gambit21 Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Neat looking helo. Hearing good things about the DCS helicopters, so that might some good fun. Trouble (or some of the trouble) with DCS though...content for the existing jets is lacking. One thing I'd like to see that might suck me in is multiple Red Flag campaigns (for each aircraft) using the Nevada map - right now there's one F-15 campaign and one A-10 campaign. So if you fly the F-15 one and really enjoy it "give me more of that!" which is how I think I'd feel....well that's pretty much it, you're done. Red Flag 1988 Red Flag 1990...etc. Just making up dates, I have no idea when they happened. Even a "Top Gun" sort of training campaign using Nevada in place of a Miramar/San Diego map for both the F-14 and F-18 when the arrive would be great. Even if it happens, it will likely be one or the other, or at most one of each. Then I'm done again. I won't have time to learn the F-18 but the F-14 is a possibility IF there's enough content. IMHO there are opportunities that should be jumped on that are not taken advantage of, and I predict based on what I see now, will not be taken advantage of in the future. Right now there's multiple aircraft that I'm interested in...in theory, (even after SithSpawns's tragic behavior here) however flying airshows would only keep me occupied for so long.
Gambit21 Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) ...you know, this keeps happening to me. This is probably the 3rd time. I start thinking "well maybe this aircraft, or that aircraft, hey that looks nice...or maybe I could have fun with this or that..." Then I suddenly remember their petty and petulant practice of banning people from their forum based on they say on other forums, and I remember that I vowed never to spend another penny on their product again no matter what they come up with. Dammit. Edited December 13, 2017 by Gambit21 2
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