DCS

[JG5_Zesphr]

 

 

 

 

Well the Harrier should be very close now for open beta as hinted by Razbam (hopefully the image will be higher res)

Edited August 3, 2017 by JG5_Zesphr

[DB605]

Yep

The best "DCS News" is that we can ignore DCS.

 

Then why not just forget about it and stop commenting in this topic?

 

Really annoying to read same guys keeps commenting negative sh*t about game they don't even care about.

[Lusekofte]

They do against DCS the way they complain everybody did against BOS in its early days, believing BOS is a huge big brother now....

DCS got its fault, I am not going on defence here for anything regarding the game, I recommend you should not either, it is a classic flightsim forum scenario, if you want more of the sort go to SimHq. Before the changes in COD it was the same , but now they become "friends" so you do not see it that much anymore

[Feathered_IV]

Game development is a very interesting subject.  DCS development in particular is fascinating.  Especially when viewed as a bystander, rather than an invested party.

[Gambit21]

Then why not just forget about it and stop commenting in this topic?

 

Really annoying to read same guys keeps commenting negative sh*t about game they don't even care about.

A few reasons...

 

First - I bought in to it, even if just the Dora

Second - I wanted to see it succeed and make sense

Third - it's annoying how the product is progressing, especially seeing what is possible with a properly focused team.

Fourth - because I feel like it due to the first three items.

 

Any more questions?

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

A few reasons...

 

First - I bought in to it, even if just the Dora

Second - I wanted to see it succeed and make sense

Third - it's annoying how the product is progressing, especially seeing what is possible with a properly focused team.

Fourth - because I feel like it due to the first three items.

 

Any more questions?

 

This.

 

I've spent over $340 on DCS content and spent enough time in the simulator to hold an opinion.

They do against DCS the way they complain everybody did against BOS in its early days, believing BOS is a huge big brother now....

DCS got its fault, I am not going on defence here for anything regarding the game, I recommend you should not either, it is a classic flightsim forum scenario, if you want more of the sort go to SimHq. Before the changes in COD it was the same , but now they become "friends" so you do not see it that much anymore

 

Uhhhh... Except DCS is a long established product with a well established history of nonsensical development decisions, delays, community infighting, etc.

 

Cliffs still sucks in a lot of ways. I bought it and spent a few hundred hours playing it so I think it's fair for me to have an opinion there too. Nobody is "buddying up" or whatever you're implying.

[Lusekofte]

Game development is a very interesting subject.  DCS development in particular is fascinating.  Especially when viewed as a bystander, rather than an invested party.

Agreed , I am in what you call investing party, I probably spent close to 3000$ in Software and hardware because of DCS , still I do not think I am in position to call myself entitled to demand more than I should have known when I bought it. Like the dimes and bucks spent on BOS , I do not consider myself to have any claim other than what I get there.

So I am basically a bystander myself, shaking my head, disagreeing and occasionally get positively surprised 

 

 

Uhhhh... Except DCS is a long established product with a well established history of nonsensical development decisions, delays, community infighting, etc.   Cliffs still sucks in a lot of ways. I bought it and spent a few hundred hours playing it so I think it's fair for me to have an opinion there too. Nobody is "buddying up" or whatever you're implying.

 

Yes you are, if you look at history the claim from this community was just that, and you are doing the same

 

 

 

 I probably spent close to 3000$ in Software and hardware because of DCS , still I do not think I am in position to call myself entitled to demand more than I should have known when I bought it. Like the dimes and bucks spent on BOS , I do not consider myself to have any claim other than what I get there.

So I am basically a bystander myself, shaking my head, disagreeing and occasionally get positively surprised 

And I only engage in topics I am interested in, 

Edited August 3, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

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Yes you are, if you look at history the claim from this community was just that, and you are doing the same

 

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Please withhold your attempts to tell me what I'm "doing."

 

You're in no position to assess that, thanks.

[Lusekofte]

 

 

First - I bought in to it, even if just the Dora Second - I wanted to see it succeed and make sense Third - it's annoying how the product is progressing, especially seeing what is possible with a properly focused team. Fourth - because I feel like it due to the first three items. Any more questions?

 

so you mean your 46 bucks make you such a investor that your opinion should be elevated among others. You should have known what you bought and it is entirely your own fault if regretted 

Please withhold your attempts to tell me what I'm "doing."

 

You're in no position to assess that, thanks.

As long as you feel you have to defend or answer me on a post I am entitled 

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

so you mean your 46 bucks make you such a investor that your opinion should be elevated among others. You should have known what you bought and it is entirely your own fault if regretted 

As long as you feel you have to defend or answer me on a post I am entitled 

 

Sigh.

 

 

No, you're not entitled to anything. Especially trying to discern and dictate to me my motives or actions. You're being a man-baby about DCS - I get it.

 

So you mean you spent 4000 bucks on DCS/hardware make you such a investor that your opinion should be elevated among others? You should have know what you bought and is entirely your own fault if you spent 4000 on a sim that isn't going anywhere.

Edited August 3, 2017 by Space_Ghost

[Gambit21]

I think Space Ghost about covered it.

[Lusekofte]

My point is , there is no simulator that please anyone 100% and when it comes to DCS all issues here is well known. It is a frustration among all users of DCS . What can one do, I do not like the level of simulation BOS have chosen to do, it is tedious and based on dogfight interest with a tad of ground pounding, the latter is pretty easy to do if not stopped by flak or fighters. One way or the other if you aint constantly improving , like in a strategy point like dogfighting , it gets boring. If you do not fancy fighters BOS to me is testing new planes and wait for the next. DCS bring more to the table, but I am far from satisfied with what they landed on. Difference with DCS and BOS was I did know what I did when I bought DCS, BOS was not made when I bought it. 

So I can paste a fancy face palm for you Ghost, it do not make me smarter than you , your constant arrogance toward those not agreeing and focusing on obvious misunderstandings do not make you smarter than me. My point about the 49 buck spent , was he knew what mess he bought.

No-one flying and even enjoy DCS is satisfied with todays status, yet there is nothing else offered in what they do. Like BOS is best in the game genre , DCS is better in other

[Gambit21]

I purchased the Dora in good faith and with high hopes - that simple.

I've never spent any time on that board over there tracking progress. Just check in every few years - yep. Years.

[ZachariasX]

[Edit : redundant]

 

All have their issues, but so what? I'm just happy we're past where Ned Lerner could write up someting and store it on a floppy disc, selling it for $80 or so, calling it a flight or combat simulator.

 

And I'm looking forward to the F-18. After all, it fits to the F-5. So plane set matches. We have buth as front line fighters in the Swiss Air Force.

Edited August 3, 2017 by ZachariasX

[SYN_Haashashin]

Guys, we all should take a step back. Stop comparing products and keep it civil. Get back to DCS news, thank you.

 

Haash

 

P.S: Everybody is entitle to their opinion, and none is better or above or whatever you want to called, its just that, an opinion you may or may not agree. In the latest case, just agree on desagree and move on.

[nirvi]

Some news about AI blackout modelling:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3212333&postcount=1

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3212400&postcount=4

[BeastyBaiter]

Excellent news, will probably be a really long time before we see it, but it will be nice when it comes.

[Silver_Dragon]

Bsk more news about F-4E develop, with external and cockpit 3D models on develop

https://belsimtek.com/news/1787/

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I'm more excited for the Mi-24. What a beautiful monster.

[JG5_Zesphr]

hopefully the 24 comes quite soon since it's close to the Mi-8

[BeastyBaiter]

BST has released a module every 8-14 months for the past 4 years, their last release was the F-5E, about a year ago. We also know the Mi-24 became their main project once that was released (it's been an open secret). I was actually thinking for a long time that we'd get it this summer, but it seems they're heavily involved with the Hornet and so that is likely delaying the Hind substantially. We might get it this year, but I don't expect we'll see it before the Hornet.

[CanadaOne]

Just installed DCS off of Steam and bought the cheap versions of the A-10 and F-15. I use those disposable credit cards when purchasing stuff online and Steam lets you add a few bucks to your account wallet, so it's a good way to spend the last $5 you have lying around unused on old cards. Cleaned up my desk and got two planes. Sweet.

 

If DCS ever releases an F-104, I will happily pay full price for the plane. An F-104 would be the cat's ass.

[Theodore_Morgan]

I find the F-104 the most iconic representation of a retro futurist Jetsons-style fighter.

 

 

[CanadaOne]

And it was in an episodes of Star Trek.

[352nd_Wheels]

And it was in an episodes of Star Trek.

 

"Tomorrow is Yesterday" is one of my favorite episodes.

 

 

Wheels

[Sokol1]

LOL - This combine with the "What if" that became DCSW. 

[CanadaOne]

"Tomorrow is Yesterday" is one of my favorite episodes.

 

 

Wheels

 

Definately one of the remastered episodes.  Very cool.

[DD_Arthur]

VEAO bites the dust?

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=192334

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

They bit more than they could chew. I know a few of their members who are great lads who used to push above and beyond to release stuff for the old Il-2 and Lock On as mods, but doing it for fun and doing it as a job are different things. The RAZBAM model is probably better for them indeed - develop the aircraft for FSX with higher profits for less investment, then reuse parts of that project (both models and research data) when the time comes to launch it for DCS whenever feasible.

[JG5_Zesphr]

Except the models done for DCS are totally new along with the FM. Plus they're doing the MiG-19 and Super Tucano with hints of the A-7 and F-105 in the future for DCS. Though I do agree RAZ are a much more streamlined company. Hopefully the can finish the M-2000 after releasing the Harrier due to ED's pressure.  

[Danziger]

VEAO bites the dust?

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=192334

Damn that's the second time they bit the dust this summer.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Except the models done for DCS are totally new along with the FM. Plus they're doing the MiG-19 and Super Tucano with hints of the A-7 and F-105 in the future for DCS. Though I do agree RAZ are a much more streamlined company. Hopefully the can finish the M-2000 after releasing the Harrier due to ED's pressure.

 

Oh, I know they're totally new, I expressed it badly. What I meant is the reference material for external and cockpit models is already there, together with experience with the aircraft's 3D modelling and FM quirks. It definitely helped them a lot early on.

[JG5_Zesphr]

Oh, I know they're totally new, I expressed it badly. What I meant is the reference material for external and cockpit models is already there, together with experience with the aircraft's 3D modelling and FM quirks. It definitely helped them a lot early on.

oh right, yea I totally agree 

[BeastyBaiter]

Except the models done for DCS are totally new along with the FM. Plus they're doing the MiG-19 and Super Tucano with hints of the A-7 and F-105 in the future for DCS. Though I do agree RAZ are a much more streamlined company. Hopefully the can finish the M-2000 after releasing the Harrier due to ED's pressure.  

 

The real difference is RAZBAM is a small team of professionals who take their work seriously. Making stuff for FSX and DCS is their day job and has been for over a decade. As such, they know what they can handle and keep things reasonable. Hence why we really only hear about programming on the Harrier and 3d models on the next plane (A-29B). They have added the MiG-19P to the mix, but that too is only in the 3d modeling stage and done by a new person I think. The real key there is focus and having all the needed skills. They don't just make 3d models, they have someone who can properly code them too. VEAO never solved the coding part but kept taking on new projects despite it. Eventually the whole thing came crashing down as it became clear they couldn't actually deliver.

 

As for the Mirage, I'm pretty sure it's been complete for over a year now. I'm not a Mirage 2000 expert by any means, but everything seems to work in a sensible manner. They still make a few tweaks here and there too it, but that's true of all the DCS aircraft.

[nirvi]

New pics from Strait of Hormuz:

 

More:

http://imgur.com/a/2QxQ9

Edited August 22, 2017 by nirvi

[Herne]

I'm interested to see how DCS's WW2 offering pans out. I'm done with early access games generally speaking though. I did buy the p51 module for the steam version of DCS but had difficulty mapping the prop RPM to an axis. Didn't seem to like it for some reason, and I quickly lost interest. 

Does anyone know if this can be done ?

[nirvi]

I'm interested to see how DCS's WW2 offering pans out. I'm done with early access games generally speaking though. I did buy the p51 module for the steam version of DCS but had difficulty mapping the prop RPM to an axis. Didn't seem to like it for some reason, and I quickly lost interest. 

 

Does anyone know if this can be done ?

Yes it's possible. You can set the RPM on the Axis Commands page:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WB-UZuhdrTI/maxresdefault.jpg

[Guest deleted@30725]

I'm interested to see how DCS's WW2 offering pans out. I'm done with early access games generally speaking though. I did buy the p51 module for the steam version of DCS but had difficulty mapping the prop RPM to an axis. Didn't seem to like it for some reason, and I quickly lost interest. 

 

Does anyone know if this can be done ?

 

Unless they fix the spotting which they have sort of tried and not really worked, the ww2 offering is not that good compared to il2. I can spot other planes easy in il2, but in dcs it's horrible.

Edited August 22, 2017 by deleted@30725

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

New pics from Strait of Hormuz:

 

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What's with the horrible compression/noise in these screenshots?

[Finkeren]

What's with the shoreline? Looks like there is pretty much no shore at all, the landscape just suddenly cuts off and is replaced by sea.