DCS

[AndyJWest]

34 minutes ago, easterling77 said:

...I have to learn not to crash the Hind into the Pyramids

 

Can't be that difficult, surely, considering the size of the map. ?

[ROCKET_KNUT]

On 9/1/2023 at 10:10 AM, DBFlyguy said:

 

They know a thing or two about pr, don´t they? ?

Looking phorward to the Eph-Phour. ?

[DBFlyguy]

54 minutes ago, ROCKET_KNUT said:

They know a thing or two about pr, don´t they? ?

Looking phorward to the Eph-Phour. ?

They do indeed!

[Gambit21]

7 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

Can't be that difficult, surely, considering the size of the map. ?

Pretty sure I can drift into a pyramid in Egypt while attempting to hover and land the Huey on the Golan.

[easterling77]

no crash at the Pyramids

and some reckless "driving" on the way back?

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

Bought the F-16

[BladeMeister]

I am looking real hard at the South Atlantic map. At 50% off I am not sure I can resist it much longer.  I really want to fly that Mossi mission depicting the European(Norway?) fjord naval bombing runs. With the delayed bomb fusing and rockets available it should possible to complete the mission and not blow oneself up in the process.

 

S!Blade<><

Edited September 9, 2023 by BladeMeister

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, BladeMeister said:

I am looking real hard at the South Atlantic map. At 50% off I am not sure I can resist it much longer.  I really want to fly that Mossi mission depicting the European(Norway?) fjord naval bombing runs. With the delayed bomb fusing and rockets available it should possible to complete the mission and not blow on self up in the process.

 

S!Blade<><

I did not know about that mission. But I do have it. I fly jets in it for scenery

[FlyinCoffin]

Iam gone get the MIG-15BIS. My machine runs fps just fine with it

Edited September 8, 2023 by FlyinCoffin

[Customizer171]

I just downloaded DCS and my thoughts was to use it for cold war era jets.

There's a big sale going on right now and I plan to pick up a couple of aircrafts and some of the maps. The warbirds are sold at 20$ each. 

My question to you guys is if there is any reason to buy warbirds in DCS if I am only doing single player?

In IL-2 we have Quick Mission and campaigns. Is there something similar in DCS or is it better to stay with IL-2 for warbird action?

I play in VR only.

[dburne]

27 minutes ago, Customizer171 said:

I just downloaded DCS and my thoughts was to use it for cold war era jets.

There's a big sale going on right now and I plan to pick up a couple of aircrafts and some of the maps. The warbirds are sold at 20$ each. 

My question to you guys is if there is any reason to buy warbirds in DCS if I am only doing single player?

In IL-2 we have Quick Mission and campaigns. Is there something similar in DCS or is it better to stay with IL-2 for warbird action?

I play in VR only.

 

DCS has some very good scripted campaigns  but limited in number.  It does not have a career type system  or  a PWCG type system. I only do SP and love flying them, but I also like the  full immersion of cockpit switches/buttons etc. Have flow jets and choppers for many years, got into the  WWII earlier this year  and really enjoying it.

Edited September 8, 2023 by dburne

[Customizer171]

48 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

DCS has some very good scripted campaigns  but limited in number.  It does not have a career type system  or  a PWCG type system. I only do SP and love flying them, but I also like the  full immersion of cockpit switches/buttons etc. Have flow jets and choppers for many years, got into the  WWII earlier this year  and really enjoying it.

 

I have played around a little bit with the free version of the Mustang and also the trial version of the Viggen and I must agree that it's nice with clickable cockpits!

However, the game is not as smooth in VR as IL-2. I probably have a long and hard time ahead of me finding the optimal settings for my system! That's a negative side because I rather fly than messing around with settings.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Customizer171 said:

 

I have played around a little bit with the free version of the Mustang and also the trial version of the Viggen and I must agree that it's nice with clickable cockpits!

However, the game is not as smooth in VR as IL-2. I probably have a long and hard time ahead of me finding the optimal settings for my system! That's a negative side because I rather fly than messing around with settings.

 

I have an Aero and run DCS  with  eye  tracked dynamic foveated rendering, it is awesome.

That is currently available with  DCS for Aero, Quest Pro, and soon Pimax Crystal (in beta now). Amazing what that  tech does for performance.

[Trooper117]

13 hours ago, Customizer171 said:

Is there something similar in DCS or is it better to stay with IL-2 for warbird action?

 

Just enjoy both...

[Customizer171]

4 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

 

Just enjoy both...

 

That would be great, but I read somewhere that people find the flight models "Arcady" in IL-2 after spending time in DCS warbirds.

Don't know if it's true or not.

I have most of the aircrafts in IL-2 and I really like, it so it would be sad if that would change.

On the other hand I really liked the clickable cockpits!

For now I think I will stay with my original plan and use DCS for early - Cold War jets.

I will probably pick up a few maps during this sale. 

Maps is always good to have and instead of buying lots of aircrafts that takes time to learn, maps can be used right away with the aircraft I have.

They all look interesting to me but do you have any map you recommend NOT buying?

[DBFlyguy]

45 minutes ago, Customizer171 said:

 

They all look interesting to me but do you have any map you recommend NOT buying?

I don't have it but it seems like South Atlantic is one to NOT buy....

 

I always thought it was a weird map choice anyway... kinda in the same boat as the in-progress "Australia Top End" map

 

 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Customizer171 said:

That would be great, but I read somewhere that people find the flight models "Arcady" in IL-2 after spending time in DCS warbirds.

Arcadish is the wrong word, less complex fm and dm.

My problem is the planes I like to fly is zippo's and have no means of defending itself. 

Flying Warbird in DCS is more a feeling of accomplishment but like many think it is not like the real thing

[RedeyeStorm]

On YouTube there is a clip where a guy compares the Il2 P51 with the DCS one and a real P51. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find it again. If I remember correctly both sims fall short of the real deal on different things.

[Lusekofte]

Yes but mostly on ground handling 

but you cannot if not having a very rough and realistic force feedback stick in any way simulate aerodynamic and atmospheric behaviour and the force needed to move ailerons and elevators in different speed. 
engine temperatures on ground are often very inaccurate too. P 51 spitfire and p 40 get overheated if on ground too long. 
my impressions on Gb is they try to make them historically correct compared to their opponents. While DCS try to simulate the aircraft. Both with success and fails 

[Customizer171]

5 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

I don't have it but it seems like South Atlantic is one to NOT buy....

 

I always thought it was a weird map choice anyway... kinda in the same boat as the in-progress "Australia Top End" map

 

 

Thanks, most people seems to agree that it is not worth buying, it's a shame because it is a bit different from all the desert maps.

I would have enjoyed just flying around looking at the views, but I guess there's better sims for that, hahaha.

4 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Arcadish is the wrong word, less complex fm and dm.

My problem is the planes I like to fly is zippo's and have no means of defending itself. 

Flying Warbird in DCS is more a feeling of accomplishment but like many think it is not like the real thing

You are right, arcadish was probably not the correct word but I think you understood what I meant.

Do you have any recommendations of what maps to buy and which to stay away from?

[Customizer171]

2 hours ago, RedeyeStorm said:

On YouTube there is a clip where a guy compares the Il2 P51 with the DCS one and a real P51. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find it again. If I remember correctly both sims fall short of the real deal on different things.

I have seen it before and like you say, none is like the real thing.

[Lusekofte]

13 minutes ago, Customizer171 said:

Thanks, most people seems to agree that it is not worth buying, it's a shame because it is a bit different from all the desert maps.

I would have enjoyed just flying around looking at the views, but I guess there's better sims for that, hahaha.

You are right, arcadish was probably not the correct word but I think you understood what I meant.

Do you have any recommendations of what maps to buy and which to stay away from?

Well new normandy map and Chanel map is good. Syria is good. Personally I use nevada a lot. Because I mainly fly choppers. 
but most of my favorite campaigns are in stock free map 

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Customizer171 said:

Do you have any recommendations of what maps to buy and which to stay away from?

The Channel is a nice map overall. Looks better than Normandy to my eyes. Turning down the building detail slider in the settings to 65% will gain you a good dose of FPS over the towns without a drop in perceptable visual quality.

 

Normandy is ok. The airfield detail is very good but theres stuff that still needs working out. Likey there would be more campaigns for that map though. 

 

DCS's biggest plus for Single player (with the caveat that its your bag) is the mission editor which allows you to challenge yourself as you wish. The biggest downside with DCS WW2 is its sparse offering (and dont be drawn in by the  "...and beyond" BS. Ive quickly learned that phrase can mean beyond the span of my lifetime. 

[RossMarBow]

8 hours ago, Customizer171 said:

Thanks, most people seems to agree that it is not worth buying, it's a shame because it is a bit different from all the desert maps.

I would have enjoyed just flying around looking at the views, but I guess there's better sims for that, hahaha.

You are right, arcadish was probably not the correct word but I think you understood what I meant.

Do you have any recommendations of what maps to buy and which to stay away from?

I flew for free on Enigmas server.
After buying Syria map on sale.
Two week rental per plane is more than enough.

[dburne]

13 hours ago, BOO said:

The Channel is a nice map overall. Looks better than Normandy to my eyes. Turning down the building detail slider in the settings to 65% will gain you a good dose of FPS over the towns without a drop in perceptable visual quality.

 

Normandy is ok. The airfield detail is very good but theres stuff that still needs working out. Likey there would be more campaigns for that map though. 

 

DCS's biggest plus for Single player (with the caveat that its your bag) is the mission editor which allows you to challenge yourself as you wish. The biggest downside with DCS WW2 is its sparse offering (and dont be drawn in by the  "...and beyond" BS. Ive quickly learned that phrase can mean beyond the span of my lifetime. 

 

What are you referring to with building detail slider? I don't see anything like that in settings?

Edited September 10, 2023 by dburne

[BOO]

11 hours ago, dburne said:

 

What are you referring to with building detail slider? I don't see anything like that in settings?

Scenery Details Factor.  It appeared shortly after the channel map and, as far as I can tell, pretty much only works meaningfully with that map. I have it down at 0.67 and really cannot see any perceptable difference in my 2D sceen but i am only at 1080P. Low over Ramsgate it made something like a 12fps difference in the old single thread version of the game. I think it makes simialr in the MT.  

[dburne]

1 hour ago, BOO said:

Scenery Details Factor.  It appeared shortly after the channel map and, as far as I can tell, pretty much only works meaningfully with that map. I have it down at 0.67 and really cannot see any perceptable difference in my 2D sceen but i am only at 1080P. Low over Ramsgate it made something like a 12fps difference in the old single thread version of the game. I think it makes simialr in the MT.  

 

Ok thanks, when I think scenery I tend to think more on grounds/mountains etc I guess. I have that cranked on full.

Edited September 10, 2023 by dburne

[BOO]

8 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Ok thanks, when I think scenery I tend to think more on grounds/mountains etc I guess. I have that cranked on full.

 

No worries. My bad. I was too lazy to look :-). 

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

I remember there was quite a good guide how to setup DCS graphics for best performance vs eye candy. Has it been updated with the advances of the game? Have to check that scenery slider if it does any good, still haveing over 120 fps in the game at 1440p, but more does not hurt

 

I would rather drop the debate about DCS vs GB if this thread wants to be alive in the future. Both games have their pros and cons, go argue on their respective FM subforums or their modelling as it propably gets more appropriate attention there. 

 

Anyways. Sale still running and does not end before my salary comes in, huh ? So much I would like to buy, but can´t ? Viggen or Mirage 2000 are quite high on the list as well as Sinai..decision decisions!

[dburne]

1 hour ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

S!

 

I remember there was quite a good guide how to setup DCS graphics for best performance vs eye candy. Has it been updated with the advances of the game? Have to check that scenery slider if it does any good, still haveing over 120 fps in the game at 1440p, but more does not hurt

 

I would rather drop the debate about DCS vs GB if this thread wants to be alive in the future. Both games have their pros and cons, go argue on their respective FM subforums or their modelling as it propably gets more appropriate attention there. 

 

Anyways. Sale still running and does not end before my salary comes in, huh ? So much I would like to buy, but can´t ? Viggen or Mirage 2000 are quite high on the list as well as Sinai..decision decisions!

 

Fwiw - Sinai is really, really nice.

[Lusekofte]

5 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Fwiw - Sinai is really, really nice.

I find Syria much better. More scenic 

[RossMarBow]

Playing DCS for helicopters is sane. 

[Lusekofte]

20 minutes ago, RossMarBow said:

Playing DCS for helicopters is sane. 

If I had the time and patience to really learn the A 10 I think I would have been in SP heaven. 
I did learn the AH 64 and sitting there punishing all those coordinates put me off. And in one week extensive F 18 hornet training I got overload issues in my head and had to put DCS on hold for two month. 
It is not for everyone. 
Flying chopper is to me perfect. Always something to improve. I love the steam valve pit in those old USSR crates 

[LuftManu]

Guys please, keep it civil about Il-2 and DCS.

Everbody plays and likes what they want. This is not a challenge.  Personal preference and "the best" is not something we can always measure. Have fun enjoying whatever flightsim you can / want and keep enjoying our hobby. ?

PS: The more, the merrier ?

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

If I had the time and patience to really learn the A 10 I think I would have been in SP heaven. 
I did learn the AH 64 and sitting there punishing all those coordinates put me off. And in one week extensive F 18 hornet training I got overload issues in my head and had to put DCS on hold for two month. 
It is not for everyone. 
Flying chopper is to me perfect. Always something to improve. I love the steam valve pit in those old USSR crates 

 

Hornet is awesome, so loving it. Apache is very good also but still in learning stages for me. Only got so many hours in a day and there is WWII action to fit in there as well lol. Got campaigns going in both Spit and P-51 now. Only problem now is when I launch DCS - I go hmmm what do I really want to fly today? Decisions decisions.

Edited September 11, 2023 by dburne

[LuftManu]

4 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Hornet is awesome, so loving it. Apache is very good also but still in learning stages for me. Only got so many hours in a day and there is WWII action to fit in there as well lol. Got campaigns going in both Spit and P-51 now.

I can't stop flying helos there. I really love the Apache and the Mi-24. They are really fun! Now I am waiting too for Phantom from Heatblur. Had a blast in the F-14.

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

 

Hornet is awesome, so loving it. Apache is very good also but still in learning stages for me. Only got so many hours in a day and there is WWII action to fit in there as well lol. Got campaigns going in both Spit and P-51 now. Only problem now is when I launch DCS - I go hmmm what do I really want to fly today? Decisions decisions.

It probably is but for me way too time consuming. It is not my livelihood, it bring no food on the table but workload and consumption of time bring that feel to it

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

You are aware this is a game forum and not a fight for world dominance?

It probably is but for me way too time consuming. It is not my livelihood, it bring no food on the table but workload and consumption of time bring that feel to it

 

Yeah being retired certainly helps my cause on flight simming.

[Art-J]

^ I hope I'll be able to afford this hobby once I'm retired in about two decades. Right now it's insufficient disposable TIME that prevents me from taking advantage of the latest promo sale. I decided not to shell out on DCS anymore (with exception of upcoming F4U and F4E) for this very reason...

 

...but your posts about enjoyment you're getting from Reflected's campaigns, and the current discount on Channel map, makes it damn difficult to resist ? .

[dburne]

46 minutes ago, Art-J said:

^ I hope I'll be able to afford this hobby once I'm retired in about two decades. Right now it's insufficient disposable TIME that prevents me from taking advantage of the latest promo sale. I decided not to shell out on DCS anymore (with exception of upcoming F4U and F4E) for this very reason...

 

...but your posts about enjoyment you're getting from Reflected's campaigns, and the current discount on Channel map, makes it damn difficult to resist ? .

 

Actually many of the modules I have were purchased quite some time ago when I was gainfully employed. Just now getting around to learning and enjoying some of them. Yeah Reflective's works are incredible.