DCS

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

2 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

Crikey... watched the video and almost fell into the trap of buying the F-14...

 

And you should get the F-14 too.  The front seat is surprisingly straightforward, and you have Jester do all the smart stuff in back with an intuitive graphical wheel.  You get to learn the Carrier stuff, and the refueling stuff, and despite some jokes I’ve made, Jester does a pretty good job. I hear he even works a LANTIRN pod now?   Now, if you want to learn the back seat, you really are dealing with a 1960s version of a user interface, and you’d better learn your sidelobes from your notches and your beams and enjoy entering a lot of lats and longs, and “Bullseye” the Klingon way.  You even have an oscilloscope thing. I found that stuff tedious. So, the back seat is not for everybody, but you can enjoy the plane without ever having to enter that dark back seat of despair.  So seriously, if you’re tempted, do it, its worth it.

 

 

Edited March 17, 2023 by SeaSerpent
P.S. it’s a beautiful flyer too, and very cool to land on a carrier.

[Guest deleted@83466]

It is a necessary stop on your DCS journey, Grasshopper.

[Gambit21]

...also after watching a video, setting up bombs in the backseat is easy peasy. That's the one thing I'd go back there for.

That said I managed to screw it up using the 'simpler' Jester wheel last night (first try)

Honestly for bombs at least, it seems like popping in the back seat is quicker.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I’m also going to add about the F-14, the immersion factor is sublime (at least for a while anyway, as things go, then maybe you’re so sick of two-seat fighters you become a Hornet person). I joked about the mirrors in a previous post, but when you see the top of your helmet moving around with your real head, and you look over the shoulder and the rio guy moves around so believably it’s like you were watching it for real, that is some pretty cool stuff for a desktop flight simulator.  

Edited March 18, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Gambit21]

Anyone have an idea why my Hornet is launching from the carrier? I go to full throttle and we just sit there with the shooter twirling his finger endlessly. 

 

[DBFlyguy]

21 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Anyone have an idea why my Hornet is launching from the carrier? I go to full throttle and we just sit there with the shooter twirling his finger endlessly. 

 

You have to salute, its in the comm menu

[Gambit21]

Just now, DBFlyguy said:

You have to salute, its in the comm menu

I thought I was - must not have mapped the button. Thanks

[DBFlyguy]

6 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

I thought I was - must not have mapped the button. Thanks

You're welcome! By default, it's F8 (ground comm) then F6 (salute)

[Guest deleted@83466]

Somebody mentioned the F-5 up above, and I’m telling you I really want to like that plane, but it just seems so wussy when I’m flying it compared to some other planes. The F-5 can outfight the Sabre in every way imaginable, but the Sabre feels like incredibly powerful.  MiG-21 better watch out for the F-5, for real, but the MiG is this rumbly thing that feels like a rocket to me, even if it isn’t really.  But the F-5 is another must have DCS plane, and to learn (it’s simple).  I fly it like it’s my “I’m tired of learning shit” jet, and find myself in it frequently, after a drink and a smoke.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by SeaSerpent
F-5 is greatly enhanced by a bass shaker working with Simshaker software

[Lusekofte]

I bought the F 5 because I always been facinated by that plane. It fought for attention against SU 25 

These two have been my break from choppers for years. To me it is good enough sinne I use it offline for a2g. 

[unlikely_spider]

5 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I bought the F 5 because I always been facinated by that plane. It fought for attention against SU 25 

These two have been my break from choppers for years. To me it is good enough sinne I use it offline for a2g. 

Plus there's great value in buying the F-5 as it's really two planes for the price of one, as it also doubles as a MiG-28.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I guess I’m completely content right now with my airplane collection, because these sales happen frequently, and I’m always tempted by certain planes, like the mb-339 or the Casa 101, but I never get them.  I don’t see the need for a dedicated trainer aircraft in a flight sim, might as well just practice with a front line aircraft, so I don’t know what I’d do with them, but they do look very well done.

[Lusekofte]

43 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

I guess I’m completely content right now with my airplane collection, because these sales happen frequently, and I’m always tempted by certain planes, like the mb-339 or the Casa 101, but I never get them.  I don’t see the need for a dedicated trainer aircraft in a flight sim, might as well just practice with a front line aircraft, so I don’t know what I’d do with them, but they do look very well done.

I regret buying some modules. But the L 39 I always liked. Thing about the L 39 is when you fly just for the flight a trainer is perfect and in its own way realistic to fly. It feel right. 
I not bought the MB 339 because then I have to choose. And only one get to be used. 
Personally my collection would never be complete without one trainer. I cannot however recommend any since I only flown L 39. But it is good

[Trooper117]

3 hours ago, unlikely_spider said:

it also doubles as a MiG-28.

 

Lol!... but can the Top Gun chaps defeat it!!!

[Lusekofte]

I am about to break 

I ditch the Hornet for a while and buy the Mirage F1. 
I now know one more reason why I got the soft spot for it. It remind me of the Jaguar

Edited March 18, 2023 by Lusekofte

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I regret buying some modules. But the L 39 I always liked. Thing about the L 39 is when you fly just for the flight a trainer is perfect and in its own way realistic to fly. It feel right. 
I not bought the MB 339 because then I have to choose. And only one get to be used. 
Personally my collection would never be complete without one trainer. I cannot however recommend any since I only flown L 39. But it is good

 

This would be my choice.

 

 

[Lusekofte]

50 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

This would be my choice.

 

 

That is just delivered for real. It gonna take a while

[Trooper117]

3 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

It remind me of the Jaguar

 

Ditto... I thought that the moment  I saw it.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I just can’t let myself buy any more right now.  Really need to get good with all this ground radar stuff in the Hornet, at least, before I go off on another plane.  I figure the next plane I learn will be the Strike Eagle, and I surmise that if I don’t know anything about A/G radar, I probably can’t be a Strike Eagle guy.

[BOO]

Im not realy followed the Mudhen development but i understand that the rear seater is there for show. Is that a correct asumption?

[AndyJWest]

1 hour ago, BOO said:

Im not realy followed the Mudhen development but i understand that the rear seater is there for show. Is that a correct asumption?

 

The DCS version will be front-seat piloted only at first release, as there's nothing of significance that can't be done from there in flight. They'll add back-seat-guy multiplayer functionality later though, as (like the real thing) the workload is high, and a second set of hands and eyeballs make the whole thing easier to use effectively.

[BOO]

40 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

 

The DCS version will be front-seat piloted only at first release, as there's nothing of significance that can't be done from there in flight. They'll add back-seat-guy multiplayer functionality later though, as (like the real thing) the workload is high, and a second set of hands and eyeballs make the whole thing easier to use effectively.

Thanks Andy -seems something of a retrogrde given the Tomcats W/O (even with its limited scope) but as its Razbam I thin its still a buy for me as they seem to be able to give their modules a certain something missing in others  (and bugz of course but hey - thats why we loved TVRs)

Edited March 19, 2023 by BOO

[Lusekofte]

11 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

I just can’t let myself buy any more right now.  Really need to get good with all this ground radar stuff in the Hornet, at least, before I go off on another plane.  I figure the next plane I learn will be the Strike Eagle, and I surmise that if I don’t know anything about A/G radar, I probably can’t be a Strike Eagle guy.

I told myself, since I was stupid enough to buy the Hornet. I won’t buy the Strike eagle before I can operate the Hornet. 
it is just stupid hording all these planes and not use them. 
So I guess I buy F 15 on a sale in the future 

[BOO]

32 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I told myself, since I was stupid enough to buy the Hornet. I won’t buy the Strike eagle before I can operate the Hornet. 
it is just stupid hording all these planes and not use them. 
So I guess I buy F 15 on a sale in the future 

its a good plan. I think i just want to be in at the start of the drama this time as I missed out on the harrier one.......

[AndyJWest]

It isn't actually necessary to understand every last detail of an aircraft to enjoy flying it. Sometimes it is more fun to just read enough to take off, and figure out the landing bit when the time comes... 

[Lusekofte]

I need to understand the system. Not do it all

[DD_fruitbat]

9 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

The DCS version will be front-seat piloted only at first release, as there's nothing of significance that can't be done from there in flight. They'll add back-seat-guy multiplayer functionality later though, as (like the real thing) the workload is high, and a second set of hands and eyeballs make the whole thing easier to use effectively.

 

Where did you read that? I'm not saying your wrong, I just haven't read that myself. I was under the impression that the backseat was available on release, and that would be no AI version of Jester on release, although possibly coming later.  Unlike the F-14, nearly everything can be done from the front seat, setting up chaff and flares being backseat only and something else I can't remember. Also unlike the Tomcat, the F-15 can be flown completely from the rear seat as well, although start up requires the front seat.

Edited March 19, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[AndyJWest]

17 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Where did you read that? I'm not saying your wrong, I just haven't read that myself. I was under the impression that the backseat was available on release, and that would be no AI version of Jester on release, although possibly coming later.  Unlike the F-14, nearly everything can be done from the front seat, setting up chaff and flares being backseat only and something else I can't remember. Also unlike the Tomcat, the F-15 can be flown completely from the rear seat as well, although start up requires the front seat.

 

You may be right. I thought I'd read 'flyable from the front only on first release' somewhere, but can't find it, and may have misunderstood.

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Where did you read that? I'm not saying your wrong, I just haven't read that myself. I was under the impression that the backseat was available on release, and that would be no AI version of Jester on release, although possibly coming later.  Unlike the F-14, nearly everything can be done from the front seat, setting up chaff and flares being backseat only and something else I can't remember. Also unlike the Tomcat, the F-15 can be flown completely from the rear seat as well, although start up requires the front seat.

 

Yah...both seats available, and AI WSO coming from what I understand, for sure later.

 

[Bremspropeller]

On 3/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, SeaSerpent said:

the immersion factor is sublime

 

Where is that guy, BTW?

[Gambit21]

22 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

I just can’t let myself buy any more right now.  Really need to get good with all this ground radar stuff in the Hornet, at least, before I go off on another plane.  I figure the next plane I learn will be the Strike Eagle, and I surmise that if I don’t know anything about A/G radar, I probably can’t be a Strike Eagle guy.

 

Let me know how the ground-radar stuff goes.

I plan on being an Mudhen guy as well. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

I didn’t envision that I’d still be captivated by these things today, way back when we played Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle all those years ago.

[Hoss]

On 3/18/2023 at 1:48 PM, Gambit21 said:

 

This would be my choice.

 

 

It's also going to be weaponized for foreign sales. That was the plan, but I doubt they would try to hypothetically model that until Boeing actually does it. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Hoss

[Guest deleted@83466]

Looks like a Hornet nymph.

[Gambit21]

48 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

I didn’t envision that I’d still be captivated by these things today, way back when we played Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle all those years ago.

Was James F-15 for me.

 

 

29 minutes ago, Hoss said:

It's also going to be weaponized for foreign sales. That was the plan, but I doubt they would try to hypothetically model that until Boeing actually does it. 

Yeah I think it was Starbaby (10 Percent True) suggesting that it would be a good option for Ukraine. Apparently it has some payload capability.

 

 

[BOO]

dug out all the gear last night for a quick play - I think i will move over to the F18 and F15E from helos. The game works really well graphically  at medium low alt and above but has sme pop ins and shadow nasties when low and slow that i find irratatng.

 

I think on balance the F18 cos y'know, boats- plus AAR from a boom somewhere behind me is a complication I dont need in my 2D life right now... 

[Lusekofte]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2384622471706235?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
A4 is probably best mod ever. Why is it a mod? It should be official. 
I really start to like this plane like SU 25 much. 

[nirvi]

26 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2384622471706235?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
A4 is probably best mod ever. Why is it a mod? It should be official. 
I really start to like this plane like SU 25 much. 

It was the decision of the creators of the mod to not apply for a official module licence. 

They wanted to keep it free.

[DD_fruitbat]

The more I look at this,

The more I am looking forward to raining death and destruction in the Mudhen

 

I mean 6 x CBU-105's &  6 x CBU-97's is a serious amount of bang bang. Also the coming later 20 x GBU-39 SDB loadout is very appealing!

 

Oh, did I mention the GBU-28 5000lb bomb!!!!

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by DD_fruitbat

[Guest deleted@83466]

Completely badass.  Surprisingly, no SLAM listed there.