DCS

[dburne]

Now that I have moved over to DCS for my WWII action I am pretty much all DCS at this current time. Certainly IL-2 GB will remain installed and ready to go at a moments notice. I am enjoying some Spit campaigns in DCS but they are limited in number, whereeas IL-2 has PWCG and also Career Mode. But between now DCS WWII, Hornet, and Apache I have more than enough to keep me occupied for a long time with DCS.

Edited February 25, 2023 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

I am in to the bones tired of GB. I reinstalled it for a weekly coop event. But I cannot muster any sort of motivation fire it up just for my self. I took a brake too late. I feel I might get started online with DCS and find a jet I can accept as a standby for choppers in order to avoid same feel there. It will be utter catastrophe if that happens. 

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

This one. Check it out. It is well worth it. Best Singleplayer ever!

 

index (overflandersfields.com)

 

 

I may try this.

 

 

[Sgt_Joch]

As I recall, “Over Flanders Field” is a mod of “Combat Flight Simulator 3” which you have to own, even though the website seems to imply it is a brand new game.

[Lusekofte]

23 minutes ago, Sgt_Joch said:

As I recall, “Over Flanders Field” is a mod of “Combat Flight Simulator 3” which you have to own, even though the website seems to imply it is a brand new game.

You do not have to own cfs3 to run this game. It was at one time but not anymore. I guess they own the licence now. And it can no longer be called a mod. It is a new sim on old but not bad game engine

Edited February 26, 2023 by Lusekofte

[DragonDaddy]

I had many fun hours in CFS2 and CFS3. Lots of mods for each. Still have them all on a disc somewhere. 

[AtomicP]

I'm struggling to find the motivation to fire up BoX these days. DCS is fun for messing about because the ME is so simple to use. Pick map, pick plane, click fly. Optionally, plop targets air/ground then click fly. In the BoX editor I'd need to look everything up first, in the DCS ME I figured it out in minutes. The game might have its faults, but it's far more user friendly. Lately DCS has a lot of things to draw people to it but BoX has lost that with the recent changes in personnel. I know we should be happy with what we have, but it's nice to know that new stuff is coming around the corner.

 

I've yet to try any WW2 stuff in DCS though because of the fairly steep financial bar but I might give some stuff a go on the 2-week trial. For now I'm happy with the Hornet and Tiger as the clicky planes (plus A-4 obviously) and FC3 when I want something a bit more rustic from the Soviet engineering side. I'm hoping a proper dynamic campaign will arrive this year but I fear it'll need a lot of core changes to make it viable.

[creamersdream]

I still have yet to try DCS WWII content. Will try the trial out first before I buy, as I'm not so much into the modern jet planes and such.Also its just so expensive. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by creamersdream

[SCG_motoadve]

WWII DCS is so underrated, in reality its really really good IMHO, FM , DM and graphics , are superior than IL2 and its more immersive, but not for everyone, you need to learn your plane like IRL, not just jump from one to the next and expect to fly it to combat easily and get kills like we do in IL2.

This is an example of the detail put into planes, just some of the stuff modeled in the FW 190D

Coolant System

The D-series of the Fw 190 uses the AJA 180 annular radiator with the capacity of 115 liters. It is installed in front of the engine.

The Jumo 213 coolant system has both the main system, consisting of the coolant pump, engine, radiator, and the heat exchanger; as well as the secondary system with the secondary flow pump, coolant pump, and the coolant tank. The two systems only interact within the coolant pump.

Oil System

A 55-liyrt circular oil tank is located in the nose, protected by an armored ring. The oil cooler is also protected by the ring.

Two cockpit gauges are provided, both located on the Front Dash. The Oil Temperature gauge monitors the system with the normal operating temperature range of 110...130 degrees (min – 40, max – 135 degrees). The right-hand side of the Fuel and Oil Pressure gauge monitors the oil system with the normal operating pressure of 5 – 11 kg/cm².

Radio Equipment

The aircraft if equipped with a FuG 16ZY radio, a specially-designed airborne VHF transceiver. The FuG 16 can be used for in-flight communication as well as for IFF identification and DF homing. The set operates in frequency range between 38.4 and 42.4 MHz.

The FuG 16ZY can also be set to "Leitjager" or Fighter Formation Leader mode that allows it to use a special "Y-Verfahren" (ground tracking and direction finding method) via the normal headphones.

The AFN2 component of the radio set allows easy navigation to ground-based homing beacons, showing both direction and range on one simple dial.

Fuel System

The Fw 190 D-9 has two main tanks, forward (Vorn) and rear (Hinten), both conveniently located below the cockpit floor underneath the pilot's seat. The fuel tanks and the fuel lines are self-sealing. Engine-driven pumps feed the fuel into the engine at a normal pressure of 1 to 2 kg/cm3. There is also an electrical booster pump in each of the two tanks that prevents vapor lock at altitude, provides improved fuel supply and can serve as a back-up in case of main pump failure.

There is also a primer fuel tank built into the rear fuel tank with a capacity of 3 liters.

The tanks have a capacity of 232 liters (172 kg) front (Vorn) and 292 liters (216 kg) rear (Hinten).

The Fw 190 D-9 can also carry an external drop tank under the fuselage with the capacity of 300 liters.

 

[dburne]

I am truly having a blast now with DCS WWII. So excited for some carrier ops eventually. Kind of wish there were more SP content but that is ok I am also into jets and choppers as well and need to stay as fresh as I can with them also.

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

This is an example of the detail put into planes, just some of the stuff modeled in the FW 190D

 

Unfortunately, they didn't do a job as stellar on the 3d model.

The Dora in BoX just knocks it's DCS sister's socks off.

 

[SCG_motoadve]

1 minute ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

Unfortunately, they didn't do a job as stellar on the 3d model.

The Dora in BoX just knocks it's DCS sister's socks off.

 

Agreed , the 190 A8 looks better in DCS.

[Art-J]

Well, the least community can do is try to bring Dora up to modern standards in texture department. Did you guys see the re-skin project a chap nicknamed Doughguy has been working on for a while? Pretty awesome stuff:

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/313897-a-neues-gwand-fur-die-dora-hi-res-textures-for-the-dora/page/5/

Edited February 27, 2023 by Art-J

[Lusekofte]

Actually late war fw 190 did not look too well coming off factory. Saw a documentary about it and a museum Dora non flyable was shown as an example. Up close it was not too good 3 D modelling either. Panels did not fit too well. 

Besides ww2 DCs is for nerds 

[unlikely_spider]

7 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Actually late war fw 190 did not look too well coming off factory. Saw a documentary about it and a museum Dora non flyable was shown as an example. Up close it was not too good 3 D modelling either. Panels did not fit too well. 

Besides ww2 DCs is for nerds 

Yeah, due to material and labor shortages, in the late war the Germans were less able to output aircraft with high resolution textures and dynamic reflections on the glass surfaces. I believe I saw that documentary too.

[DD_fruitbat]

London looks pretty cool.....

 

 

[SCG_motoadve]

Damage model notes:

Still being updated and revised, also hit effects, fires and smokes look just like in guncam footage.

 

6 nov

2020

We are pleased to announce that the New Damage Model is now available for public, multiplayer testing; we trust that this long awaited feature has been worth it. We hope that it will meet your expectations, and we look forward to your feedback.

We are happy to announce the start of open beta tests of our new Damage Model for WWII aircraft on Eagle Dynamics multiplayer servers. We will start today with fighters and then make the new bomber damage model available on November 18th. To participate in these multiplayer tests, please join any of the servers mentioned in the list here: https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-world-2-5/7128320-new-wwii-damage-model-test-servers-are-active

The new damage model is based on accurate damage and destruction modelling of aircraft components in relation to the location of internal elements in each aircraft - oil, air, hydraulic and cooling systems, engine and propellor installation, throttle and CSU controls, flight controls including trim connectors, and airframe main strength longerons, spars, and stringers. The new damage model system precisely calculates hits to these internal aircraft systems as the projectile passes through the aircraft. This allows us to accurately simulate the actual damage to the aircraft and the flight model. For example: damage to the wing skin leads to a decrease in lift; damage to the spar leads to strength reduction, and potentially wing snap at specific loads.

New visual effects have also been added to help interpret aircraft damage. A white, reddish vapour trail indicates that the hydraulic system is damaged, and the size of the trail indicates the size of the leak. A fine, brownish haze indicates that the oil system is damaged, and that the engine will probably soon suffer oil starvation, engine overheating, and potentially fail. A bright white trail of steam indicates that the radiator, or part of the cooling system, is damaged. The instantaneous evaporation of water during the explosion of a water jacket will envelop the plane in a large cloud of steam for several seconds. A fine white vapour trail is the typical sign of a fuel leak.

Combustion can also help to identify the damage source. A burning fuel leak gives off dense white/grey smoke, and depending on the size and type of leak, it can eventually result in a fire. When the engine/airframe is engulfed in flame, the smoke often turns black as it mixes with oil that burns with a much deeper and darker hue. Structures made of aluminum, wood or fabric-covered surfaces can also combust based on the corresponding type of projectile. Such smaller fires are not immediately visible, but you can identify the smoldering of elements by the thin streams of dense smoke trailing behind the aircraft.

Additional information can be gained from visual damage. Despite the fact that current computers can’t dynamically bend construction and tear fuselage and wings, our Visualization System is a good indicator of the level of aircraft damage. The system works as follows:

- We have 4 levels of ‘damage textures’ for each aircraft: from 0 - no damage to 3 - max damage.

- First bullet hits result in the 1st level with small damage visible. This allows players to see some damage from the first hits.

- With further damage, the 2nd and 3rd level textures will appear.

Experienced pilots can check all the damage levels within the Model Viewer for a better understanding of what to expect from the holes in the airframe

Edited February 28, 2023 by SCG_motoadve

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

Unfortunately, they didn't do a job as stellar on the 3d model.

The Dora in BoX just knocks it's DCS sister's socks off.

 

It’s an old model…one of the first IIRC. 
 

Hope they go back and re-visit the Dora and Mustang.

 

Even the Hornet cockpit is starting to show it’s age compared to more recent modules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mad_Mikhael]

10 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

Damage model notes:

Still being updated and revised, also hit effects, fires and smokes look just like in guncam footage.

 

6 nov

2020

We are pleased to announce that the New Damage Model is now available for public, multiplayer testing; we trust that this long awaited feature has been worth it. We hope that it will meet your expectations, and we look forward to your feedback.

We are happy to announce the start of open beta tests of our new Damage Model for WWII aircraft on Eagle Dynamics multiplayer servers. We will start today with fighters and then make the new bomber damage model available on November 18th. To participate in these multiplayer tests, please join any of the servers mentioned in the list here: https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-world-2-5/7128320-new-wwii-damage-model-test-servers-are-active

The new damage model is based on accurate damage and destruction modelling of aircraft components in relation to the location of internal elements in each aircraft - oil, air, hydraulic and cooling systems, engine and propellor installation, throttle and CSU controls, flight controls including trim connectors, and airframe main strength longerons, spars, and stringers. The new damage model system precisely calculates hits to these internal aircraft systems as the projectile passes through the aircraft. This allows us to accurately simulate the actual damage to the aircraft and the flight model. For example: damage to the wing skin leads to a decrease in lift; damage to the spar leads to strength reduction, and potentially wing snap at specific loads.

New visual effects have also been added to help interpret aircraft damage. A white, reddish vapour trail indicates that the hydraulic system is damaged, and the size of the trail indicates the size of the leak. A fine, brownish haze indicates that the oil system is damaged, and that the engine will probably soon suffer oil starvation, engine overheating, and potentially fail. A bright white trail of steam indicates that the radiator, or part of the cooling system, is damaged. The instantaneous evaporation of water during the explosion of a water jacket will envelop the plane in a large cloud of steam for several seconds. A fine white vapour trail is the typical sign of a fuel leak.

Combustion can also help to identify the damage source. A burning fuel leak gives off dense white/grey smoke, and depending on the size and type of leak, it can eventually result in a fire. When the engine/airframe is engulfed in flame, the smoke often turns black as it mixes with oil that burns with a much deeper and darker hue. Structures made of aluminum, wood or fabric-covered surfaces can also combust based on the corresponding type of projectile. Such smaller fires are not immediately visible, but you can identify the smoldering of elements by the thin streams of dense smoke trailing behind the aircraft.

Additional information can be gained from visual damage. Despite the fact that current computers can’t dynamically bend construction and tear fuselage and wings, our Visualization System is a good indicator of the level of aircraft damage. The system works as follows:

- We have 4 levels of ‘damage textures’ for each aircraft: from 0 - no damage to 3 - max damage.

- First bullet hits result in the 1st level with small damage visible. This allows players to see some damage from the first hits.

- With further damage, the 2nd and 3rd level textures will appear.

Experienced pilots can check all the damage levels within the Model Viewer for a better understanding of what to expect from the holes in the airframe

 

 

[DD_fruitbat]

[Trooper117]

''Meatballs below''... however, I hadn't seen this one either.

 

[DD_Arthur]

On 2/25/2023 at 8:52 PM, Gambit21 said:

I may try this.

To replicate the flight model in WoFF;

  Take one large cardboard box.
Cut a hole in each side.

Sit in the box.
Put an arm through each hole.

Start flapping.

[Gambit21]

11 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

To replicate the flight model in WoFF;

  Take one large cardboard box.
Cut a hole in each side.

Sit in the box.
Put an arm through each hole.

Start flapping.

? 

I was afraid of that - thanks.

 

 

[Lusekofte]

28 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

?

I was afraid of that - thanks.

 

 

It is probably the only ww1 sim with dynamic campaign you ever see. And all who fly it say it is just the best. I rather believe them. Old mscfs 3 game engine might show its age but was not bad. 
Besides all game engines we touch now are dated 

[9./JG27golani79]

On 2/27/2023 at 8:10 PM, Bremspropeller said:

 

Unfortunately, they didn't do a job as stellar on the 3d model.

The Dora in BoX just knocks it's DCS sister's socks off.

 

 

Dora in DCS came out back in 2014 ...

[Bremspropeller]

46 minutes ago, 9./JG27golani79 said:

Dora in DCS came out back in 2014 ...

 

Original IL-2's Dora came out even earlier and managed to look closer to the original than the DCS contraption.

[Jaws2002]

On 2/27/2023 at 2:14 PM, SCG_motoadve said:

Agreed , the 190 A8 looks better in DCS.

The exterior does look better, but the interior is pretty garbage by DCS standards.

They copied that wreck they have in Monino museum. No wonder it's garbage.

 

The power settings are also a complete joke. A5 power settings, A8 fuel load and weight. Good luck.

 

I wish a third party company made the A8, instead of the main team. 

That must be the worst DCS module and there are zero chances of a revision.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Jaws2002

[Alexmarine]

6 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

 

The power settings are also a complete joke. A5 power settings, A8 fuel load and weight. Good luck.

This is where the “Modifications” system we have in BoX could come in handy.
Apart from the specifications modelled, the warbirds of DCS are devoid of options compared to their BoX counterparts and that’s a big reason for why I am still not really giving a shot at them (apart for the Mustang that I can use for faux-Korea stuff).

Of course if they release PTO stuff the simple lack of alternatives will probably get me (though I am willing to wait until both Hellcat and Zero are in and flyable)

[creamersdream]

Well I started the 14 day trial period and downloaded the P-47,channel Map, and Normandy map. So far the P-47 is pretty nice to fly, the channel map is nice also.Normandy map is kinda small but not to bad. So I will fly around some more and play some missions, and maybe try out another aircraft or three. Then will see if I wanna commit to buy. Any news on future DCS WWII releases? I don't wanna commit to buy if WWII content for the simulator gets the back door and there is not much released for it.  

Edited March 2, 2023 by creamersdream

[Lusekofte]

4 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

Well I started the 14 day trial period and downloaded the P-47,channel Map, and Normandy map. So far the P-47 is pretty nice to fly, the channel map is nice also.Normandy map is kinda small but not to bad. So I will fly around some more and play some missions, and maybe try out another aircraft or three. Then will see if I wanna commit to buy. 

Forget it. You be hooked and find yourself always bringing the credit card when playing. 
We all started with common sense, and ended up realising nothing in sim is remotely connected to it

[Alexmarine]

18 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

 Any news on future DCS WWII releases? I don't wanna commit to buy if WWII content for the simulator gets the back door and there is not much released for it.  

 

ED will release a free WW2 version of their Mariana Islands map in the foreseeable future and an F6F Hellcat is expected next year as well

 

Mag3 will also release an F4U-1D "soon". Allegedly they are finishing up the DM and will then send it to ED for internal testing. Maybe by this Summer we should have it available. They are also working on some AI assets to go along with it like an Essex Class CV, IJA ground units and an AI Zero.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Alexmarine

[SCG_motoadve]

2 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Forget it. You be hooked and find yourself always bringing the credit card when playing. 
We all started with common sense, and ended up realising nothing in sim is remotely connected to it

Yes this is how I started, fortunately for me at that time there was a sale, ended up buying everything WWII,I was hooked I knew I would eventually buy all of it, so might as well do it during the sale, there were bundles on sale, saved a lot of money.

No regrets whatsoever, having lots of fun!

2 hours ago, creamersdream said:

Well I started the 14 day trial period and downloaded the P-47,channel Map, and Normandy map. So far the P-47 is pretty nice to fly, the channel map is nice also.Normandy map is kinda small but not to bad. So I will fly around some more and play some missions, and maybe try out another aircraft or three. Then will see if I wanna commit to buy. Any news on future DCS WWII releases? I don't wanna commit to buy if WWII content for the simulator gets the back door and there is not much released for it.  

Mosquito Campaign should be released quite soon, Normandy 2.0 map too, LA7 later in the year.

As other mentioned, Marianas, Corsair and Hellcat. Aircraft carrier?

Edited March 2, 2023 by SCG_motoadve

[dburne]

I am so looking forward to WWII Carrier Ops!

[sevenless]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

I am so looking forward to WWII Carrier Ops!

 

You can bet, a lot of people do.

[Alexmarine]

3 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

 

Mosquito Campaign should be released quite soon, Normandy 2.0 map too, LA7 later in the year.

 

I completely forgot about them… Really tells you what I care about this days…

 

 

?

 

(the La-7 team is reportedly working on a red Cold War jet too so maybe a little support to them is warranted… not like we are getting Il-2 Battle of Berlin anytime soon… sigh…)

[Archie]

I would sure love a flyable Zero.

[Alexmarine]

3 hours ago, dburne said:

I am so looking forward to WWII Carrier Ops!

I would totally and shamelessly buy a Supercarrier-like add-on module but for WW2 USN (and IJN) carriers… just saying…

Edited March 2, 2023 by Alexmarine

[Lusekofte]

I been waiting since huey came out for a Vietnam map. Even with the tiny Vietnam era objects and modules it still are closer to completion than any WW2 era scenario. 
I do fine with Corsair and use it in a lookalike Korea scenario, my hart beat no faster because of it. As said above LA 7 next ?

[dburne]

15 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I been waiting since huey came out for a Vietnam map. Even with the tiny Vietnam era objects and modules it still are closer to completion than any WW2 era scenario. 
I do fine with Corsair and use it in a lookalike Korea scenario, my hart beat no faster because of it. As said above LA 7 next ?

 

Corsair??

[Lusekofte]

10 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Corsair??

LA 7 is next ww2 module coming after Corsair. And that say a lot