Danziger Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Love my MiG-21. Just wish there was more to do with it than intercepting "what if" B-52 raids and getting murdered by modern Western jets...
Silver_Dragon Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) F/A-18C Hornet Teaser video music by Btd https://soundcloud.com/btd/teaser-for-dcs-fa-18c-hornet Hormuz was "present" on 2014 but put "on hold" meanwhile ED complete NTTR (November 2015), NTTR expansion (November 2016) and Normandy WW2 (May 2017) and surely Caucasus T4 to 2.5 unification (Mid 2017), but pics about them was show some time ago and on the "profesional / military" webpage. Actually, on progress update to reach 2.1 and follow technology https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=129972 http://www.thebattlesim.com/theater_environment/ Has expected on Late 2017/Early 2018 Has some rumours on the Russian forum about a "Vietnam" follow theatre.... but actualy "none" confirmed, the only confirmed has "the mayor part of 20 century conflicts has planned to build maps on DCS: W". Edited May 31, 2017 by Silver_Dragon
Gambit21 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 How is the AI in DCS? Would a MiG 15 vs F-86 dual over the Nevada map be a worthwhile diversion for a change here and there? Is there any worthwhile MiG 15 content? Dammit...I really don't want to give any more money to this "can't decide what it want's to be when it grows up" product. I also watched a few videos...I cant' say I'm impressed with the terrain graphics. It's as if, because of the extraordinarily long development, that this engine is becoming obsolete in some ways in the middle ("middle" is probably generous) of development
Bearfoot Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 How is the AI in DCS? Would a MiG 15 vs F-86 dual over the Nevada map be a worthwhile diversion for a change here and there? Is there any worthwhile MiG 15 content? Dammit...I really don't want to give any more money to this "can't decide what it want's to be when it grows up" product. I also watched a few videos...I cant' say I'm impressed with the terrain graphics. It's as if, because of the extraordinarily long development, that this engine is becoming obsolete in some ways in the middle ("middle" is probably generous) of development (1) How is the AI in DCS? EXTREMELY predictable. Usually a series of high yo-yo's. Not too bad at them, but not much else in the toolkit. So great for practicing gunnery, flying, energy and engine management, etc. against one particular tactic. Some skills of which are transferable to other circumstances. (2) Is there any worthwhile MiG 15 content? If you mean as in campaigns: nope, not the last time I checked. (3) .. worthwhile diversion for a change here and there? Absolutely! The fact is (as with the WW2 birds), not just the flight model, but the engine and energy model are unparalleled. It brings a different dimension to the table than IL2. I routinely hop back and forth between IL2 and DCS (both the WW2 and Korea-era a/c). I love both for what they offer. Would not be able to give up one for the other.
Bearfoot Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) I should also mention: the biggest problem with DCS's AI is not (just) their limited intelligence. It's that they fly an SFM (simplified flight model). Which means that their energetics don't follow the same rules as yours. Generally, they lose less energy in maneuvers and perform those maneuvers better. Add to that the usual "eagle-eyed" total situation awareness --- they see you instantly if you are in their FOV. And, on top of that, the damage model sucks even more where the AI is concerned: unlike player a/c, there appears to be no gradual loss of capacity for accrued damage short of destruction, and AI appear to fly at either 100% or 0%, even if the visuals show them trailing tons of smoke and full of holes. In a way, though it all balances out, in the sense that their tactical predictability is offset by their (artificially) superior operation, and so they make for great training/sparring partners (also note that, while they are predictable in their high yo-yo's, they do execute it beautifully, almost poetically so, clearly seen in TacView, and so they really do offer good training for this). Still, though, even with all these negatives, easily hundreds of hours of fun and thrills and entertainment, if not a lot more. I'm still not jaded on them ... Edited June 1, 2017 by Bearfoot
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Yeah, Ai can abuse flight models pretty well. Ai also has super shooting skills, when dogfighting Ai F-86 on highest ai level I remember still getting hit from 1.1 - 1.2 km in my MiG-15. That's extremely annoying since you think you are away and safe but then to your surprise you get hit. In regard to MiG-15 content ... not really realistic, but there is a campaign for it and for F-86. It's quite good campaign, even if not historical it was very entertaining for me. MiG-15 is great module and you can feel exactly what pilots said - its simply, reliable and robust. Starting it under 30 seconds is no problem, then taxi it, take-off, load guns and off you go for hunting. F-86 takes more but its a different kind of fighter, also great but more complex. I'm still sitting and thinking when to get it.
Bearfoot Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I could be entirely wrong, but I vaguely remember that the only difference that AI skill levels makes in DCS is their target acquisition time and firing accuracy. Doesn't affect tactics, flying skills, or anything else etc. So setting the skill to the highest level is almost exactly like checking the "super-annoying-super-unrealistic-super-sniper" option box and nothing else. I could be wrong about this, but my impressions are consistent with this notion. In contrast, in IL2 it seems that "veteran" skill levels fly different tactics from "ace", in addition to being better shots etc.
Blooddawn1942 Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) In regard to MiG-15 content ... not really realistic, but there is a campaign for it and for F-86. It's quite good campaign, even if not historical it was very entertaining for me. You're referring to the museum relic campaign. I put it to the last in line of my DCS campaign purchases, because I was full of doubts about such an fictional scenario containing ancient jets in a modern environment. But I finally got it 3 weeks ago and I had a blast flying it two times, with the Mig 15 and the Sabre within 10 days. I can highly recommend it. I have to admit that the campaign had 2 missions that I disliked and which gave me much frustration. But thanks to the autosucces option I finaly skipped them and had all in all lots of fun. Edited June 1, 2017 by Blooddawn1942
Monostripezebra Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Overall, DCS just haven´t got enough naval assets.. if you´d ask me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyi8BlTKfhU 1
BeastyBaiter Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 I've heard its not, F-5 actually seems to be scoring much better than MiG. I have MiG but had no chance to try it on multi, reading forums and talking to the others expression was relatively bad for the MiG. F-5 seems to be more capable. It's pretty close actually. The F-5 has better low speed handling and a better gunsight, but the MiG-21 is a rocket that can zip around with near impunity if you keep the energy up (not hard to do tbh). A couple months back they also fixed the R-60 on it so it's now a crude all aspect missile as it should be. It isn't as good head on as the AIM-9P5, but will still nail an F-5 with his burners on from any direction. Overall, I do about the same in MP with either aircraft in F-5 vs MiG-21 missions. Haven't flown it in the latest updates though, been a month or two.
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 This looks fantastic, if only B-17s had gunners working and damage model resembling real one.
HippyDruid Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 Overall, DCS just haven´t got enough naval assets.. if you´d ask me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyi8BlTKfhU Haha, nice landing Dr.Z
nirvi Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 Some infos about the new damage model, as well as WIP Pics of Ju-88, C-47,Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma, and Sd.Kfz.251. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/newsletters/newsletter02062017.html
9./JG27DefaultFace Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 Those Damage Model pictures were posted by ED year ago already. Maybe in another 4 itll make it into the game.
Urra Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 Those Damage Model pictures were posted by ED year ago already. Maybe in another 4 itll make it into the game. Yes, you I right I believe, it was posted back then.
9./JG27DefaultFace Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 It was https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=170625&page=3
JG5_Zesphr Posted June 2, 2017 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) they about as detailed as you can get from the looks of things, but they do take their sweet time Edited June 2, 2017 by JG5_Zesphr
CanadaOne Posted June 3, 2017 Posted June 3, 2017 I wanted to get DCS after watching a long review video on the AJS-37 Viggen. And then I saw what it cost. Holy ****! Yeah, well that's not going to happen.
JG5_Zesphr Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) I wanted to get DCS after watching a long review video on the AJS-37 Viggen. And then I saw what it cost. Holy ****! Yeah, well that's not going to happen. Sales are pretty often with bundles or standalone, so pick them up then. As for Naval assets, RAZBAM are bringing a few extra ships to DCS for their Harrier - I guess to simulate amphibious landings Edited June 4, 2017 by JG5_Zesphr 1
CanadaOne Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 I'll keep my eyes open for a sale. But $80Cdn. for one plane... that's not an easy purchase to make.
Guest deleted@30725 Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 I'll keep my eyes open for a sale. But $80Cdn. for one plane... that's not an easy purchase to make. Still cheaper than buying the real thing.
CanadaOne Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Still cheaper than buying the real thing. Not to mention my backyard being too small for a runway...
Thad Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 There are those paying hundreds of dollars for craft offered in the upcoming sci-fi game Star Citizen.
CanadaOne Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 There are those paying hundreds of dollars for craft offered in the upcoming sci-fi game Star Citizen. You mean they are getting daddy to pay hundreds of dollars.
Gambit21 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I'll watch this space. In theory I want to be able to fly something over the Nevada map, even if it's non-combat. I own the Dora, but really not feeling that, and I have no interest in Normandy in it's current state. I'm thinking one of the more simple to learn jets. I used to study manuals on my lunch-break at work, and come home and practice and slowly learn the thing....and that was Flanker/Falcon 4.0 days when it was much easier. Now, especially with the increased fidelity, I don't have time for that anymore. Red Flag might be a fun diversion, but I cant' stop thinking about the Mig 15. Dammit. Kuban needs to hurry up and get here so I'm too busy to think about this product.
HippyDruid Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I would love to see a DCS F-4 Phantom II. But from what I've read, it would seem there are circumstances that prevent this.
Bearfoot Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) I'll watch this space. In theory I want to be able to fly something over the Nevada map, even if it's non-combat. I own the Dora, but really not feeling that, and I have no interest in Normandy in it's current state. I'm thinking one of the more simple to learn jets. I used to study manuals on my lunch-break at work, and come home and practice and slowly learn the thing....and that was Flanker/Falcon 4.0 days when it was much easier. Now, especially with the increased fidelity, I don't have time for that anymore. Red Flag might be a fun diversion, but I cant' stop thinking about the Mig 15. Dammit. Kuban needs to hurry up and get here so I'm too busy to think about this product. Maybe this will help quell the itch: https://www.amazon.com/Soviet-MiG-15-Aces-Korean-Aircraft/dp/1846032997 Or this: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Tuesday-Over-Namsi-Forgotten-ebook/dp/B0094JTLOE/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C538uFtamw Edited June 5, 2017 by Bearfoot
Feathered_IV Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I'll watch this space. In theory I want to be able to fly something over the Nevada map, even if it's non-combat. I own the Dora, but really not feeling that, and I have no interest in Normandy in it's current state. I'm in much the same boat. I have the P-51 and F-86, but neither of them feel relevant outside of an unattended airshow. If the Normandy map had V-1 flying bombs so at least one piece of German aerial equipment is time authentic, I'd happily chase those up and down the coast morning and night.
Uufflakke Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C538uFtamw In that video, att 9m:12s isn't that the late Stepan Anastasovich Mikoyan? Who visited the IL2 BOS office about 2 years ago? upload a picture
Bearfoot Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I'm in much the same boat. I have the P-51 and F-86, but neither of them feel relevant outside of an unattended airshow. If the Normandy map had V-1 flying bombs so at least one piece of German aerial equipment is time authentic, I'd happily chase those up and down the coast morning and night. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=184762
DD_Arthur Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 In that video, att 9m:12s isn't that the late Stepan Anastasovich Mikoyan? Who visited the IL2 BOS office about 2 years ago? Yes. When he talks about a billiards match, he's talking about his uncle. Stepan himself flew Migs against the Americans in Korea.
Guest deleted@83466 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) I'll watch this space. In theory I want to be able to fly something over the Nevada map, even if it's non-combat. Don't have Normandy yet, but the NTTR/Las Vegas map (when they fix up the problems in 2.1) is a helicopter pilot's paradise, when it comes to just flying around, landing on buildings, chasing cars, and doing non-combat helicopterish things, with no combat, but just for the sake of flying.. Fixed wing aircraft are great, but I always keep coming back to the Huey and the Mi-8, especially when there is this amount of ground detail that can only really be appreciated low and slow. Edited June 5, 2017 by Iceworm
Bearfoot Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Don't have Normandy yet, but the NTTR/Las Vegas map (when they fix up the problems in 2.1) is a helicopter pilot's paradise, when it comes to just flying around, landing on buildings, chasing cars, and doing non-combat helicopterish things, with no combat, but just for the sake of flying.. Fixed wing aircraft are great, but I always keep coming back to the Huey and the Mi-8, especially when there is this amount of ground detail that can only really be appreciated low and slow. I have to say that Normandy is this x10000000. I always anticipated it being a great helo landscape, but I did not realize how great it would turn out. See, I thought it was going to be pretty flat, and it is compared to Nevada or the Caucasus ... from 10-20K. But at 100 ft, it is has a lot of sculpting --- rolling hills and terrain. Throw in the incredible number of trees and it is amazing ... and amazingly dangerous! Did not realize how sloppy my NOE flying and landing was, thanks to those "fake" pass-through Caucasus and sparse Nevada trees. The different geometries of the tree organization makes one big difference between Normandy and Nevada (apart from the lack of mountains and lower altitude, and thus higher performance): not just clusters in forests, but boxing of the fields / bocage. Endless stretches of the latter. So ultra-NOE flying would have you speeding across fields, popping up over a bocage and down again the other side. Though right now, I think I am going for the more showy "catch the top of a straggling tree on a skid and crash and burn on the other side" approach. 1
Gambit21 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Bearfoot...sounds great. If you can get past flying a modern Helo over WWII Normandy...which I personally don't think I can. P-47? All day long. What's the release date on the P-47 again?
Guest deleted@30725 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Red Flag might be a fun diversion, but I cant' stop thinking about the Mig 15. Dammit. haha, sounds like the gaming version of sexual tension, just kiss and get it out of your system. It's a shame you can't borrow one for a day as I'm sure you'd get over it then!
JG5_Zesphr Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Bearfoot...sounds great. If you can get past flying a modern Helo over WWII Normandy...which I personally don't think I can. P-47? All day long. What's the release date on the P-47 again? Not for a while. It was almost put on the back shelf indefinitely and with the F-18 and 2.5 to come, it's not an immediate project Edited June 8, 2017 by JG5_Zesphr
Jaws2002 Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) The patch released this week was really good. Great improvements with the lighting and performance when using deferred shading. I captured a quick video in the Mirage just to show you how gorgeous the sunset looks now in DCS. https://youtu.be/WAxlJY4jx5c Don't mind the spastic track ir movements, just check how gorgeous the sunset looks. I just captured it with shadow play and uploaded it as it was, so it looks like youtube messed up the quality quite a bit. Edited June 10, 2017 by Jaws2002
darthdooboss Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I got the patch 1.5.6 and I would like to buy the Normandy map & assets but it required the 2.0 version... Should I download and install?
Lensman1945 Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I got the patch 1.5.6 and I would like to buy the Normandy map & assets but it required the 2.0 version... Should I download and install? Yes, you'll need it for Normandy..the good news is that 2.00 is free.
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