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[Guest deleted@83466]

It’s a very menacing commie Cold War looking plane, for sure, but the western avionics are Unicorn-ish.  At least in the JF-17, it was made in real life to the specs of a very westernized, English-speaking air force, with F-16’s, and it reflects a lesser known, but relevant airplane.  But like I said, DCS only benefits, really.
 

Edit:  but it would have been great if they came out with a spectacular Mig-17 or something, and I think it is indisputable that this studio clearly is up to that task.

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Jaws2002]

A DCS Mig-17 would be fun. I had a lot of fun in Mig-17 in FSX, long time ago.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I might buy the f1 and not fly it. It seems like a good idea

More or less what I did. A moment of weakness. I wanted to explore the idea of a mercenary campaign.

 

I flew it 3 times, total of 30 minutes maybe. 

[DD_fruitbat]

The F1 is a really nice plane just to fly around in imo.

[Bremspropeller]

I just flew a 650NM roundtrip mission (Akro-Palmyra-Akro) with two buddies the other day in the F1EE. We loft-bombed and Durandal'ed an airfield and bagged three MiGs between us. One got Strela'ed and had to walk home. The two survivors came back to Akro with roundabout 800l of go-juice to spare. No refuelling, just two bags.

 

Awesome jet.

 

I'm kinda partial on the J-8II. One side thinks it's just another assclown-prototype. The other side tries to shoehorn it into the DCS universe and I think it can act as a "modernized Su-15" stand-in.

Edited February 11, 2023 by Bremspropeller

[Lusekofte]

F1 is history. It is fasten to my brain with 4” nails. Just like the Huey and Vietnam. It has been around in countless conflicts doing its job. Well I do not like war, but you know that is mostly what we do. F1 was an available tool in many. 
It also look great. I probably can’t resist buying it, but a huge effort made me not yet pull the trigger. But I gonna and probably not fly it

[Sgt_Joch]

15 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Very cool little update coming to Gambit's MOST FAVORITE fighter ?

 

 

Very cool they are still doing new stuff with the M2K...I still need to learn this jet (among a pile of others....)

The flip mirror has been in for some time now. I purchased the module a few years ago but never took the time to learn it, I finally put in the time to RTFM recently and it is quickly becoming my favourite DCS plane.

[Lusekofte]

12 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Lusekofte, I have full confidence that some day, you will make a good C-130 pilot, flying a track in MP and refueling strike fighters.

That cis the meaning of life 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Speaking of Mirages, I think I might pull out the Mirage 2000 for a spin today. Or at least I’m entertaining the thought, lol!   I’m not very good at it, and always seem to move off to something else every time I get 2/3 of the way towards basic competence; and it isn’t even that tough a plane compared to so many others.  That’s why i didn’t get the F1 yet.  I figured I don’t need another Mirage if I fly the one I have so little. 
 

p.s. I always find myself back in the cockpit of the Hornet.  I guess that’s my favorite plane of the whole bunch.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[DD_Arthur]

14 hours ago, Jaws2002 said:

Henry Kissinger is the father of modern China. 

That would be Kissinger spelt D-E-N-G  X-I-A-O-P-I-N-G?

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

we must do something about the balloon gap…

Edited February 11, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Wolf8312]

On 2/6/2023 at 8:46 PM, dburne said:

 

I hate to compare really as both are quite good imho. I have been using both for years, IL-2 for WWII stuff and DCS for jets and choppers.  For me, and the way I fly and equipment I use currently though, DCS provides a better fit.  First everything I do is single player campaigns. All in VR and all I now use my Point CTRL finger trackers for manipulating switches/buttons which I really like. Cold starts and taxi to runways as well. I would say my use of Point CTRL is primary reason I began to look at using DCS for WWII.  I was already using them in the Hornet and the Apache and thought would be neat to check out in the Spitfire which I did.

 

Now in comparing them in action, DCS seems provide me with a much larger environment namely of AI aircraft. In single player campaign I have flown and another one I am currently flying, it is not ususual to have the sky filled with 20 plus ai planes on each side. Pretty incredible really, I feel like I am a part of something much larger which is pretty neat. Or on bomber escorts when there are a bunch of both Spits protecting and bombers flying in formation.  Now in IL-2 rather than scripted campaigns I mainly flew PWCG along with Career Mode. DCS obviously is scripted campaigns currently.

 

Certainly both have their stengths and weaknesses, and both are quite good products. And both will likely always reside on my system.

 

I always felt that DCS ww2, once it got off the ground would have an edge, mainly because of the fantastic flight models (I find it very hard to tear myself away from certain modules) but also because I remember flying the chanel missions in DCS in formation over to France. The performance back then wasn't great (smooth now) but (especially as a brit) I was really blown away by the immersion and scale of the battles and felt it would be the best in town once it ironed out all the wrinkles (AI, damage models, performance).

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

F1 is history. It is fasten to my brain with 4” nails. Just like the Huey and Vietnam. It has been around in countless conflicts doing its job. Well I do not like war, but you know that is mostly what we do. F1 was an available tool in many. 
It also look great. I probably can’t resist buying it, but a huge effort made me not yet pull the trigger. But I gonna and probably not fly it

See I lack that emotional attachment to it. I grew up knowing nothing of it, then later just sort of aware that it existed.

 

With you on the Huey/Vietnam thing, same with F-4 for me. Tomcat. A-6. Whereas I’m not even a little tempted by the F1. 
 

 

[Trooper117]

If you want jets that were around through the 60's - 70's how about some RAF types.

1. Buccaneer

2. Canberra

3. Harrier/Sea Harrier

4. Hunter

5. Jaguar

6. Javelin

7. English Electric Lightning (my favourite)

 

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, Trooper117 said:

If you want jets that were around through the 60's - 70's how about some RAF types.

1. Buccaneer

2. Canberra

3. Harrier/Sea Harrier

4. Hunter

5. Jaguar

6. Javelin

7. English Electric Lightning (my favourite)

 

i like it if properly modeled, a bit hard to learn but sort of intuitiv. More a survive challange than a killer

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

If you want jets that were around through the 60's - 70's how about some RAF types.

1. Buccaneer

2. Canberra

3. Harrier/Sea Harrier

4. Hunter

5. Jaguar

6. Javelin

7. English Electric Lightning (my favourite)

 

Make mine a Buccaneer…maybe a Jag.

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Those are some of the ugliest planes I’ve ever seen.  We can’t have those!  The English really went downhill, looks-wise, after the Spitfire.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by SeaSerpent
Now, the French, on the other hand, went on to develop the beautiful Mira….

[Guest deleted@83466]

Question:  what planes in DCS have a route following autopilot?  I know the Hornet does, but the Viggen, the F-16?  I very lightly demoed them both both not gotten deep.

[RedeyeStorm]

The F16 does, the Viggen does not have route following. I am not sure but I believe the Mirage 2000 does to. It has been a while since I flew that one.

[Hoots]

8 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Those are some of the ugliest planes I’ve ever seen.  We can’t have those!  The English really went downhill, looks-wise, after the Spitfire.

 

 

Go and sit in the corner and think about what you’ve said. 

[Chief_Mouser]

8 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Those are some of the ugliest planes I’ve ever seen.  We can’t have those!  The English really went downhill, looks-wise, after the Spitfire.

 

 

 

Absolutely nothing ugly about this! Even in standard camo she was a beauty.

 

 

[Lusekofte]

10 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Those are some of the ugliest planes I’ve ever seen.  We can’t have those!  The English really went downhill, looks-wise, after the Spitfire.

 

 

The Jag?

Hunter?

You must be mad. They all got a charm with them 

[Sgt_Joch]

2 hours ago, RedeyeStorm said:

I am not sure but I believe the Mirage 2000 does to. It has been a while since I flew that one.

no, M2000c autopilot is manual, the pilot has to set the course. However it does have one of the easiest to use and most intuitive autopilot I have ever seen. Once it is turned on, you can set heading and pitch just using the trim hat. You can basically fly the plane on autopilot from takeoff to landing.

[MiGCap]

20 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

If you want jets that were around through the 60's - 70's how about some RAF types.

1. Buccaneer

2. Canberra

3. Harrier/Sea Harrier

4. Hunter

5. Jaguar

6. Javelin

7. English Electric Lightning (my favourite)

 

 

 

Jaguar for me, please.

The first jet I've encountered with a real glass HUD in the backseat. Not a TV screen HUD to look through the top of the front seat like in the EF.

One of my favourite RAF types from the 1970s/80s.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

The Jag?

Hunter?

You must be mad. They all got a charm with them 

 

Fugly charm, but yes.

I'll give them the Seafire after the Spit...but after that they lost their way in the design department because they no longer had budget for the "sexy" department engineers.

Sea Harrier is all kinds of cool though, and the Buccaneer is such a big, heavy, brute...and the Jag is just cool.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DD_fruitbat]

I would love this so much....

 

[AndyJWest]

38 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I would love this so much....

 

 

Yeah, but what would you do with it? Take off, climb vertically, fire missiles, land with empty tanks. Rinse and repeat...

[danielprates]

11 hours ago, Chief_Mouser said:

 

Absolutely nothing ugly about this! Even in standard camo she was a beauty.

 

 

 

This should hide it fine, if it is perfectly aligned against an ecplispe.

 

Soviet observer 1, squinting: "Is that a RAF plane, there directly against the eclipse?"

 

Soviet observer 2: "dude dont look directly into the eclipse"

Edited February 12, 2023 by danielprates

[DD_fruitbat]

8 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

 

Yeah, but what would you do with it? Take off, climb vertically, fire missiles, land with empty tanks. Rinse and repeat...

 

Take it your not a fan of the F-15C or the F-22 either then....

[Trooper117]

43 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I would love this so much....

 

 

I used to see Lightnings on a regular basis... fell in love with the thing the first time I saw one take off, go vertical and just disappear... I never realised they could break the sound barrier whilst vertical either till much later. They were fantastic to see overhead... a monster of a machine.

I remember being in a VC-10 approaching Cyprus for a UN tour to stop the Cypriots from doing each other in, when someone said' 'look at that'' and one of them was right next to us!

[Gambit21]

Never knew anything about them...in fact the Fighter Pilot Podcast was the first I'd heard of them. Very cool aircraft.

 

 

 

Heatblur just launched their public Discord...people are going ape shti

 

 

[AndyJWest]

16 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Take it your not a fan of the F-15C or the F-22 either then....

 

Don't get me wrong, the Lightning was a magnificent beast. Just not a very good match for DCS, either multiplayer or single player. A pure interceptor, with limited range. Unless you go for the overwing fuel tank version, which was as ugly as sin...

[Lusekofte]

I love the Phantom. But it really looks like the box Jaguar came in

[Gambit21]

41 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I love the Phantom. It's amazing, and I can't wait to purchase it. Gimme Gimme Gimme Gimme Gimme...I'm going Phantom crazy and I don't care who knows it!!!

 

I knew you'd come around.

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

This is a good looking fighter plane:

 

 

[HappyHaddock]

10 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

 

I used to see Lightnings on a regular basis... fell in love with the thing the first time I saw one take off, go vertical and just disappear... I never realised they could break the sound barrier whilst vertical either till much later. They were fantastic to see overhead... a monster of a machine.

I remember being in a VC-10 approaching Cyprus for a UN tour to stop the Cypriots from doing each other in, when someone said' 'look at that'' and one of them was right next to us!

 

I had a friend who was ex-RAF ground crew and back in the day was an engineer on the lightnings, he told me that on retirement his mates offered him the standard gold watch or the memory of lifetime but wouldn't say what that would be...

 

He took the chance and they'd arranged to  take him on a "joy ride" in which they strapped him in the cockpit, took-off, stood her on her tail and just hit full thrust in a vertical climb burning who knows what value of fuel per second... he said it was both the best and worst thing he'd ever experienced!

 

Myself I wasn't even knowledgeable enough to know there were 2-seater versions of the lightning to make such a trip possible for a non-pilot!

[Lusekofte]

I read in flypast there where a flyable lightning in South Africa some years ago

[Chief_Mouser]

2 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I read in flypast there where a flyable lightning in South Africa some years ago

 

Fly a Supersonic Jet: Buccaneer, English Electric Lightning, Hawker Hunter (capetownjets.com)

 

A friend of mine was planning a trip down there for a ride in the Lightning but it crashed at an airshow before he got it done.

[Lusekofte]

Finally they made my thing  

 

[DD_fruitbat]

Cool, you'll get to see what being on the wrong end of a harpoon missile looks like!