DCS

[Lusekofte]

10 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Ok, now it’s tear down the Apache time…?

I fly choppers for civilian task mostly. I use Hind and KA 50 for the little shooting I do. 
for flying AH 64 in a simulator bring little to none challange. To use it in battle does. 
I am in for ww2 choppers and Vietnam era. I hope the chinnoc will be without glass pit 

But that is me and my interest. Not that I think Apache is bad

[dburne]

7 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I fly choppers for civilian task mostly. I use Hind and KA 50 for the little shooting I do. 
for flying AH 64 in a simulator bring little to none challange. To use it in battle does. 
I am in for ww2 choppers and Vietnam era. I hope the chinnoc will be without glass pit 

But that is me and my interest. Not that I think Apache is bad

 

Apache is a beast to fly but once get arms wrapped around it along with using the weapons, ohh baby what a lethal machine. No one screws with an Apache loaded with 16 Hellfires LOL.

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

 

Apache is a beast to fly but once get arms wrapped around it along with using the weapons, ohh baby what a lethal machine. No one screws with an Apache loaded with 16 Hellfires LOL.

On first flight I landed on all ships moving and docked without a problem. It seems to be totally without any quirks except a little instability close to ground. But those fire and forget ammo is not for me. Neither the tedious  lurching about warfare.  Each on their own. If I by chance going to learn that it going to be A10 or F 16 , but I doubt it. Intruder is inbound. That is a plane

[dburne]

26 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

On first flight I landed on all ships moving and docked without a problem. It seems to be totally without any quirks except a little instability close to ground. But those fire and forget ammo is not for me. Neither the tedious  lurching about warfare.  Each on their own. If I by chance going to learn that it going to be A10 or F 16 , but I doubt it. Intruder is inbound. That is a plane

 

Hey Luse - it is DCS - Digital Combat Sumulator ...

 

If you are that good at landing that thing that early on, then I tip my hat to ya as I still struggle at times.

Edited January 6, 2023 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

6 minutes ago, dburne said:

If you are that good at landing that thing that early on, then I tip my hat to ya as I still struggle at times.

Edited just now by dburne

No but I fly Gazelle on a weekly bases. The track you stay below 20 Mtr I try to do it faster every time. It is much more a handful. And keep you young 

I fly what I can no matter what title my way. I can for sure find pleasure learning weapon system but complicated as the new gen us stuff one have to be sure of using it A LOT in order to keep the knowledge. And that is where my problem lies. I remember KA 50 because it is intuitive. And not modes and modes within modes. Hind got a button for specific task not modes. 
btw. I love the Huey. So older us stuff is great

Edited January 6, 2023 by Lusekofte

[dburne]

Crap I forgot , I need to learn more about using the compass in the Spit. That along with landings is what I will work on today, hopefully begin new campaign tomorrow.

[Lusekofte]

27 minutes ago, dburne said:

Crap I forgot , I need to learn more about using the compass in the Spit. That along with landings is what I will work on today, hopefully begin new campaign tomorrow.

That compass , I am glad I have hours in clod. It is very counterintuitive 

[Bremspropeller]

Who ever designed the compass should have been shot for treason.

[Trooper117]

Strangely enough, the RAF chaps managed to get over the channel, beat up a few jerry installations and airfields, and get back to their own airfields again seemed to have no problems... 

[Bremspropeller]

15 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Strangely enough, the RAF chaps managed to get over the channel, beat up a few jerry installations and airfields, and get back to their own airfields again seemed to have no problems... 

 

That just shows how bad the dsign was. Naturally, they would have been trying to flee the world-reknowned british cuisine.

[AndyJWest]

17 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

That just shows how bad the dsign was. Naturally, they would have been trying to flee the world-reknowned british cuisine.

 

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[creamersdream]

Was thinking about purchasing the WWII modules planes and campaigns for DCS but didn't pull the trigger. Now I missed out on the sale and not going to pay full price for them at this time. Well I guess I will have to wait for the next sale. 

[Trooper117]

19 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

Well I guess I will have to wait for the next sale. 

 

Don't worry about it... I've got all of the DCS WWII stuff, picked up the majority of it in various sales, they come around often enough.

[dburne]

Ok think I kind of have my arms wrapped around compass/gyro thingy. Off to work on that along with my landings, woohoo! Almost there.

[Gingerwelsh]

7 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Gingerwelsh

[dburne]

I seem to be struggling figuring out which of those black lines is the luber line.

[dburne]

Winter sale stlll going on gang, through Jan 8th. Grab it and growl.

[DBFlyguy]

A ton of detail in today's Newsletter:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/a6204cbc7d5df25e887acb434b2f8e1b/

 

So much good stuff in the works, will be interesting to see what actually gets delivered in 2023 and what falls into "beyond"

 

 

1 minute ago, dburne said:

Winter sale stlll going on gang, through Jan 8th. Grab it and growl.

Not for us Steam folks unfortunately ?

Edited January 6, 2023 by DBFlyguy

[dburne]

Just now, DBFlyguy said:

A ton of detail in today's Newsletter:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/a6204cbc7d5df25e887acb434b2f8e1b/

 

So much good stuff in the works, will be interesting to see what actually gets delivered in 2023 and what falls into "beyond"

 

Yeah I am very hopeful with the multi-threading and Vulkan implementatioins.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Regarding complex aircraft, and the Apache specifically.  Ok, I flown it around a couple times from a hot runway start, great start.  Now comes the time where I’m like uh-oh:  I’m on page 3 of 770 of Chuck’s guide!  I guess that’s why they call it a study sim.

[DBFlyguy]

7 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Regarding complex aircraft, and the Apache specifically.  Ok, I flown it around a couple times from a hot runway start, great start.  Now comes the time where I’m like uh-oh:  I’m on page 3 of 770 of Chuck’s guide!  I guess that’s why they call it a study sim.

Yep, it's a big one! By comparison the P-47 guide is only 181 pages ?Times and technology has definitely changed...

[Gambit21]

I have time for maybe a Spad, S.E.5a or Fokker DVIII manual.

 

 

[AndyJWest]

I have no willpower. I was going to give this a free trial first, but with the sale about to end, I bought it anyway. After flying the Mi-8, it mostly makes sense from a basic helicoptering perspective, though the copilot/gunner and weapons systems stuff looks complicated.

 

[unlikely_spider]

43 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

Yep, it's a big one! By comparison the P-47 guide is only 181 pages ?Times and technology has definitely changed...

And by WW2 standards, the P-47 is pretty complicated as well.

 

Endeavoring to become familiar with a modern module is almost like adding on another full time job, mostly to learn MFDs and idiosyncratic systems. I've done it for a couple modules, but I tend to get pulled back to older craft where stick and rudder skills still stand for something. Ironically newer airplanes, with all of these systems designed to reduce pilot workload, need less and less of those traditional skills but take more time to learn due to the complexities of the other systems.

Edited January 6, 2023 by unlikely_spider

[Bremspropeller]

 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, AndyJWest said:

I have no willpower. I was going to give this a free trial first, but with the sale about to end, I bought it anyway. After flying the Mi-8, it mostly makes sense from a basic helicoptering perspective, though the copilot/gunner and weapons systems stuff looks complicated.

 

Training give you a good idea about how it works. And that is a good thing. So you know what you ask Petrovich to do. 
there is a procedure to get Petrovich to do what you want and when he do. He is better to aim than you. You will soon notice that once you know effective angle of attack. You will snipe with an incredible powerful cannon and unguided rockets. 
If you give it time you will love it to death. 
it can easily be controlled by Petrovich while you give bearings too. 
I absolutely hated this in the start, but fm was fixed. Now I praise it as favorite

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

Regarding complex aircraft, and the Apache specifically.  Ok, I flown it around a couple times from a hot runway start, great start.  Now comes the time where I’m like uh-oh:  I’m on page 3 of 770 of Chuck’s guide!  I guess that’s why they call it a study sim.

Startup in the Apache and getting navigation going is in fact pretty easy. I simply have no idea how to get the weapon system going. Not been there and probably never will

Edited January 6, 2023 by Lusekofte

[Dallas88B]

7 hours ago, dburne said:

Yeah I am very hopeful with the multi-threading and Vulkan implementations.

Yes me too. They have lots of significant advances described in the newsletter that's for sure.

 

6 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

I’m on page 3 of 770 of Chuck’s guide

I know how you feel!

Thank goodness (well, actually, thank Mr. Chuck Owl) for Chucks Guide.

I was really struggling with the Apache, but now, with Chucks Guide, I am happy to go back to it.

The best general advice is on Page 4

"The Apache will test your abilities in many ways. The learning curve is brutal if you try
to do everything at once. At first, you may feel like learning its different systems is like
drinking water from a fire hydrant. It’s a complex piece of aviation technology, but it is
strangely very simple to operate once you understand the basics behind it. The key to
mastering the DCS AH-64D is to “start small” with simple tasks"

Edited January 6, 2023 by Dallas88B

[dburne]

Well I reckon I might as well embark on my first campaign with the Spit tomorrow. I wish my landings were a little more consistent may still work on that some in the morning. I think I have learned enough by now to be able to do something wtih it, probably at first I will get my butt handed to me by the AI lol. Never really got my arms warpped around  using the compass/gyro thingy yet hope that is not too crucial a thing. Can't seem to figure out which is lumbar needle and how to aligh properly.

[DD_fruitbat]

On 1/6/2023 at 12:06 AM, Bremspropeller said:

Did somebody just say KIOWA?

 

I can't wait for this, and it's almost exclusively because of Casmo!

[CastorTroy]

11 hours ago, dburne said:

Ok think I kind of have my arms wrapped around compass/gyro thingy. Off to work on that along with my landings, woohoo! Almost there.

There is a small way to cheat on Beware Beware with your kneeboard map, since Reflected took away the ability to show current position on the F10 map. To do so, you can bring up your kneeboard map, and make a position mark on said map. To do this, on your HOTAS, map your "Kneeboard", then map "Kneeboard current position mark point".  When you use the "current position mark point", after bringing up the  kneeboard map, it makes a blue mark on your current position on the kneeboard.

Edited January 7, 2023 by CastorTroy

[Lusekofte]

I must say Reflected do not do anything half way. Excellent voice actors. Even a letter from mum with a nice female voice 

[PB0_Roll]

10 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Training give you a good idea about how it works. And that is a good thing. So you know what you ask Petrovich to do. 
there is a procedure to get Petrovich to do what you want and when he do. He is better to aim than you. You will soon notice that once you know effective angle of attack. You will snipe with an incredible powerful cannon and unguided rockets. 
If you give it time you will love it to death. 
it can easily be controlled by Petrovich while you give bearings too. 
I absolutely hated this in the start, but fm was fixed. Now I praise it as favorite

Startup in the Apache and getting navigation going is in fact pretty easy. I simply have no idea how to get the weapon system going. Not been there and probably never will

You don't need to, thankfully. AI copilot will call targets and you'll tell him to engage or not to engage. You just need to map AI commands, zoom and make sure you don't engage friendlies !

4 hours ago, dburne said:

Well I reckon I might as well embark on my first campaign with the Spit tomorrow. I wish my landings were a little more consistent may still work on that some in the morning. I think I have learned enough by now to be able to do something wtih it, probably at first I will get my butt handed to me by the AI lol. Never really got my arms warpped around  using the compass/gyro thingy yet hope that is not too crucial a thing. Can't seem to figure out which is lumbar needle and how to aligh properly.

 I think you can use info bar while flying ?

 

The needle with a crossbar must face north, so you rotate your compass until it does. Then you read your heading at the top of your compass, and once you've aligned your heading indicator to match, you don't need to repeat the process for 10 to 15mns, unless you rocked your aircraft significantly. Anyway it's never ready to use when you need it, so take a good note of sun position and use it when you need to take a rough heading to friendly lines.

[Lusekofte]

17 minutes ago, PB0_Roll said:

You don't need to, thankfully

Well it is so easily learned so why not

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

I can't wait for this, and it's almost exclusively because of Casmo!

If a chopper has no “WOP WOP”, then it had better have this…

 

 

Otherwise I’ll wait for the AH-1

 

 

[dburne]

6 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Well it is so easily learned so why not

 

Speak for yourself... it confuses the crap out of me, main thing - I do not know which is the lumbar needle.

[Archie]

34 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Speak for yourself... it confuses the crap out of me, main thing - I do not know which is the lumbar needle.

Try this, it might help.

 

[dburne]

26 minutes ago, Archie said:

Try this, it might help.

 

 

 

Thanks much for that, I will be having another go with it little later on in the morning. Hopefully it will help clarify using this properly for me.

[Luger1969]

18 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

https://www.bookmall.co.za/en-gb/product/iraqi-mirages-mirage-f1-in-service-with-iraqi-air-force-1981-2003-middle-eastwar-p-1912390310.html

[Lusekofte]

18 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

This plane speak to me, a sleek beautiful streamlined killing machine normally would not. It also contain the sort of technology I can tolerate. I have not bought it yet

[dburne]

Had some time this morning drinking coffee and waking up so I went ahead and began setting up my controls for the P-47 as I will do it next in learning process. However I must say I am not sure why I would want to, engine management in the Spit appears to be so much easier.

Going to work on Spit landings a little more then hopefully start the Beware Beware campaign later on today. P47 can wait a few days lol.

 

But then again, even going back to IL-2 and CLoD  the Spit was always my favorite.

Edited January 7, 2023 by dburne