DCS

[CanadaOne]

...and we're back. Pyongyang was lovely. Good food, great weather. Love the state issue haircuts and clothing. I really felt like part of the team. ?

 

 

Next on the waiting list is the F-15E. Hopefully this year.

[CanadaOne]

On 10/16/2022 at 1:20 PM, BOO said:

er...my bank balance is a pretty limiting factor too...

 

Amen!

 

Fortunately(?) DCS releases modules very slowly. At the rate they are announcing them now we won't see some of them for at least two to three years.

 

Gives us time to save our pennies.

[dburne]

Yeah DCS is a great sim that I enjoy very much same as I do IL-2 Great Battles. Currently more of my focus is on DCS as I enjoy some great single player campaigns for the Hornet and also mixed in with that trying to learn the aspects of the Apache. 

This is what I mainly use DCS for currently, and IL-2 Great Battles I use for my WWII action. I really need to get back into the latter and check out Normandy though, will be doing that very soon here.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Speaking of Apache, I was out watching one of the kitties in the yard, and I heard the strangest aircraft noise, very unique.  I though it was one of those B-17s that does the air show circuit.  I look up, and it’s a flight of Apaches.  Have I never heard one before?  I see a lot of Chinooks and Blackhawks fly over, but never an Apache.  Nothing sounds like it.  Just an aside.

 

When people say DCS is so slooow, and takes 2 or 3 years to release a module, what quality game doesn’t?  At any rate, don’t we all have so many flight sim airplanes in DCS, that it would probably take us that long just to learn the ones we already have?  At least that’s me.  I never even learned the very first module I had, which was the A-10C.  I have no plans to buy anything soon.

 

 

[Boogdud]

25 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Have I never heard one before?  I see a lot of Chinooks and Blackhawks fly over, but never an Apache.  Nothing sounds like it.  Just an aside.

It is weird isn't it? You'd think there'd be a very distinctive "whop whop" like a 'normal' chopper but they don't sound that way at all. It's like a steady prop sound almost like you said a large prop plane. Even a single Apache sounds that way, I'm guessing there was some engineering done to shape the blades to not chop, or at least be more subtle than other helos. I think DCS did a pretty good job modeling the sound, it's very authentic. But honestly most modules have outstanding sound design so it's par for the course I suppose.

Now Chinooks... a flight of those things sounds like hell on earth. You can hear them from MILES away, if you're close they rattle the fillings out of your teeth.

[Arfsix]

The movies notwithstanding, the "distinctive "whop whop" like a 'normal' chopper" only occurs with a two bladed rotor system like the Bell hueys (UH1 A- D, etc.).  ?

[Bremspropeller]

You didn't see an Apache. You saw a weather-balloon!

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, Arfsix said:

The movies notwithstanding, the "distinctive "whop whop" like a 'normal' chopper" only occurs with a two bladed rotor system like the Bell hueys (UH1 A- D, etc.).  ?

You are right about the whop whop, but still you hear the blades, and I think that is what they did not hear in this case

[DBFlyguy]

The Apache definitely has a very distinctive sound, I live under a common flight route for an airport that has a National Guard Apache unit stationed there and hear them on the daily along with the occasional Blackhawk and Lakota.  The sounds in DCS are spot on for the Apache, I've actually been flying it on DCS and an actual one will happen to fly over and they match perfectly, if it wasn't for the house rumbling a bit, I would've thought I had accidentally turned up the DCS sound ?

[Boogdud]

1 hour ago, 216th_Lusekofte said:

You are right about the whop whop, but still you hear the blades, and I think that is what they did not hear in this case

Exactly, that's what I meant, I just meant you can't hear the individual staccato cracks from the blades (obviously a 4 blade is going to be faster than the uh-1). In the Apache you mostly just hear the engine over the blades, it's more of a droning sound. It almost sounds like a really big, powerful MD500.

[Trooper117]

It's not just Huey's you know... I spent plenty of time in these to know.

 

 

[BladeMeister]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

It's not just Huey's you know... I spent plenty of time in these to know.

 

 

Absolutely Bad Ass!

 

S!Blade<><

[AndyJWest]

I hope they carry spare tyres on that Chinook, given the abuse the rear ones were getting...

[Hoots]

I’m firmly of the belief that you have to be largely insane to want to fly a helicopter. You can square this madness when applied to flying a chinook. In a rare moment of sanity that guy is clearly trying to “accidentally” break it so that he won’t have to fly it. 

[Boogdud]

4 hours ago, Hoots said:

You can square this madness when applied to flying a chinook.

That's a fact, they're  flying 2 helicopters at the same time! 

 

On another note about the apache, does anyone know if there's a way to switch the polarity/method of TADS targeting from the pilot seat? I usually throw the CP/G's target up on the right MFD when in combat just so I can actually see what George is targeting. But from there you can just change the zoom method. There doesn't seem to be a way to actually get him to switch between TV/FLIR, and switch hotness from the back seat. I usually have to pop into the front seat and switch it and immediately hop back (which screws up your trim if you're not in a hover at the time).

[MiGCap]

"Entry for helicopter pilots only when accompanied by adults ..."

[Tempus]

There are things you can only dream and perform in a Cat in a "hollywoodish style"..... 

 

 

Sometimes a bit of sugar and popcorn is good for health...

[CanadaOne]

Word is the MB-339 is on the Steam database page, but not the sale page yet. Might release tomorrow.

 

[BOO]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

Word is the MB-339 is on the Steam database page, but not the sale page yet. Might release tomorrow.

 

Ive stopped buying modules for now (not a sulky stance but I dont have the time nor the PC power (a megre 5600X and 3080) for stuff like the Apache. Truth be told, the Mi8 is pretty much all I need and want these days.

 

BUT

 

This ones comin home with me. Simple and beautifully done.

[CanadaOne]

50 minutes ago, BOO said:

Ive stopped buying modules for now (not a sulky stance but I dont have the time nor the PC power (a megre 5600X and 3080) for stuff like the Apache. Truth be told, the Mi8 is pretty much all I need and want these days.

 

BUT

 

This ones comin home with me. Simple and beautifully done.

 

 

Nothing in the world wrong with a 5600X and a 3080. That's solid. I can give a good home to your GPU if you are unhappy with it. ?

 

I'm going to wait for a little feedback before I jump on the MB-339. The big thing for me is the cockpit has to be excellent. I want to see more videos. I can live with a boring weapons load or the plane not going too fast as long as the interior eye candy is really really good. 

[Lusekofte]

5 hours ago, BOO said:

Ive stopped buying modules for now (not a sulky stance but I dont have the time nor the PC power (a megre 5600X and 3080) for stuff like the Apache. Truth be told, the Mi8 is pretty much all I need and want these days.

 

BUT

 

This ones comin home with me. Simple and beautifully done.

Mi 8 is never wrong

Hind is it’s funny little brother 

still, now I believe mi 8 will be my favourite of all times

[CanadaOne]

17 minutes ago, 216th_Lusekofte said:

Mi 8 is never wrong

Hind is it’s funny little brother 

still, now I believe mi 8 will be my favourite of all times

 

It's a great chopper. Would love to see the cockpit get a new paintjob. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

39 minutes ago, 216th_Lusekofte said:

Mi 8 is never wrong

Hind is it’s funny little brother 

still, now I believe mi 8 will be my favourite of all times

 

I had a lot of culture shock going from the Hip to the Hind, because my expectations were all off.  A lightly loaded Hip feels like an extension of my body, like I’m one with it.  I got so good with it I almost broke my arm off patting myself on the back.  The Hind is an obese dog by comparison.  I started to feel better about it when I stopped thinking of it as a helicopter, and more of a old-school Sturmovik, with some VTOL/STOL capability.  But when it comes to helicopters, the Hip is the most satisfying to fly so far, for me.  Unfortunately, the DM is like glass.

[BOO]

4 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

 

Nothing in the world wrong with a 5600X and a 3080. That's solid. I can give a good home to your GPU if you are unhappy with it. ?

 

I'm going to wait for a little feedback before I jump on the MB-339. The big thing for me is the cockpit has to be excellent. I want to see more videos. I can live with a boring weapons load or the plane not going too fast as long as the interior eye candy is really really good. 

Ive never found the relabilty of my old 6500K with the 5600X. Im likely an edge case but I do regret not stayng with Intel and its 12 series at the time. 

 

Solid or not its entry level for DCS as it stands.

 

HOWEVER that is rarely an issue when Im a crusin in muh hiip ?

[CanadaOne]

58 minutes ago, BOO said:

Ive never found the relabilty of my old 6500K with the 5600X. Im likely an edge case but I do regret not stayng with Intel and its 12 series at the time. 

 

Solid or not its entry level for DCS as it stands.

 

When I look at FPS charts for this CPU vs that CPU, the differences seem incremental, even with a serious price increase. I'm sticking with my 3700X because it seems getting a new CPU will be several hundred dollars for, I don't know, a 5% increase? 

 

Maybe I'm watching the wrong test videos. 

 

58 minutes ago, BOO said:

HOWEVER that is rarely an issue when Im a crusin in muh hiip ?

 

Da Hip be cool, but da Ka-50 be bad! Want that BS3.

[DD_Arthur]

On 10/19/2022 at 8:56 AM, Hoots said:

I’m firmly of the belief that you have to be largely insane to want to fly a helicopter. 

 

Agree completely.

[DBFlyguy]

2.8 Preview:

 

 

 

 

[BOO]

11 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

When I look at FPS charts for this CPU vs that CPU, the differences seem incremental, even with a serious price increase. I'm sticking with my 3700X because it seems getting a new CPU will be several hundred dollars for, I don't know, a 5% increase? 

 

Maybe I'm watching the wrong test videos. 

 

 

Da Hip be cool, but da Ka-50 be bad! Want that BS3.

Many get on with the chip. I did see an improvement but I’d live without the few extra frames for more reliability tbh. 
 

Silly me I took the word of a mod 12 months ago and thought multi core was soon to be a thing. 
 

Lesson learned. 

[CanadaOne]

3 hours ago, BOO said:

Many get on with the chip. I did see an improvement but I’d live without the few extra frames for more reliability tbh. 

 

Can I ask what you mean by "reliability"? Does your CPU malfunction?

[Trooper117]

Great news about the AI improvements and lighting effects for the upcoming 2.8  update... sad though it won't be added for the WWII AI aircraft yet.

[CanadaOne]

Hope to see it today after work. The weather effects look fantastic.

 

Still on the fence with the MB-339, I'm guessing it will come out with 2.8.

[Trooper117]

17 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

Still on the fence with the MB-339, I'm guessing it will come out with 2.8.

 

According to the video it is expected to come out with the update...

[CanadaOne]

I'll check it on my phone at lunch. I want the update more than the 339, but I'm open to being impressed by the plane.

[Trooper117]

6 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

I want the update more than the 339,

 

Same here... if it's WWII or Korea based aircraft, maps or campaigns I will eventually buy the stuff, but modern jets are not really my thing... although I did buy the F-16 in a sale but haven't got around to doing much with it.

[DBFlyguy]

Just waiting for the F-15E to drop ....

[Alexmarine]

5 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Just waiting for the F-15E to drop ....

 

To drop.... out of Razbam priorities so they can give us the MiG-23 

[DBFlyguy]

25 minutes ago, Alexmarine said:

 

 MiG-23 

meh...

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[DD_fruitbat]

12 hours ago, BOO said:

Many get on with the chip. I did see an improvement but I’d live without the few extra frames for more reliability tbh. 
 

Silly me I took the word of a mod 12 months ago and thought multi core was soon to be a thing. 
 

Lesson learned. 

 

There's a post from wags today saying multicore is in closed testing at the moment.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I’m reading about the BS3 upgrade..hmm, I’m sure it will be very discounted for previous owners, but I’m thinking, maybe no…I feel like I wringed all that there was to have out of that module, and honestly not really enthusiastic about it, because I’ve been there and done that, online and off, even if the new one has Iglas and mws.  Just me at this particular stage of interest in various helicopters.  Hokum is one of best, and most unique modules there is, as it stands, no doubt in my mind.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by SeaSerpent
EKRAN voice is kinda sexy too?

[nirvi]

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/310823-dcs-normandy-20-preview/