DCS

[Guest deleted@30725]

50 minute stream, england to normandy + a short dogfight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0Shh0mW94

 

The towns at ground level look really awesome. Good potential if they ever update the ground forces module.

[Mmaruda]

All that potential will be wasted, if they don't implement a proper damage model.

[Scojo]

I have to say, the Normandy map surprised me. Granted I've only watched videos.

 

As far as performance, maybe they'll improve it later in or after Beta? I know nothing of DCS' track record in that area.

 

I'm hoping it will become something great as I would love to fly in the European Theatre.

Edited May 4, 2017 by 71st_AH_Scojo

[Jade_Monkey]

Matt mentioned they are working on the P47.

 

Thats the ONLY plane that would make me want to buy DCS WWII.

 

I really wish that the next module after midway can include p47 in the pacific in BoX.

Edited May 4, 2017 by Jade_Monkey

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Matt mentioned they are working on the P47.

 

Thats the ONLY plane that would make me want tk buy DCS WWII.

 

The Hog is sweet but they're going to have to deliver a lot more timeline-matching content for there to be any point in investing any more money in ED's products.

 

The joy of the "startup sim" wears off fast and the Pacific P-51's vs. Bf 109 K-4's buzz only lasts for so long.

[Jade_Monkey]

The Hog is sweet but they're going to have to deliver a lot more timeline-matching content for there to be any point in investing any more money in ED's products.

 

The joy of the "startup sim" wears off fast and the Pacific P-51's vs. Bf 109 K-4's buzz only lasts for so long.

I agree. Im not a huge fan of how planes are sold in DCS. I have a lot of them but barely touch them. I have enjoyed helicopters lately with VR, especially after doing one of those grand canyon helo tours last month.

[SYN_Skydance]

I've been hovering my mouse button over selecting a heli module in DCS to fly in VR. Which is the best one for the VR experience?

[Jade_Monkey]

I've been hovering my mouse button over selecting a heli module in DCS to fly in VR. Which is the best one for the VR experience?

 

In my humble opinion, out of the Huey, Gazelle, and Ka-50, I'd go with the Huey. I don't have the Mi-8.

 

The Ka-50 is a bit complicated, the Gazelle doesnt feel quite right, and the Huey feels just right an it's a lot of fun.

[LLv24_SukkaVR]

The Hog is sweet but they're going to have to deliver a lot more timeline-matching content for there to be any point in investing any more money in ED's products.

 

The joy of the "startup sim" wears off fast and the Pacific P-51's vs. Bf 109 K-4's buzz only lasts for so long.

 

They already announced they are going to update Mustang for european operations

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2725334&postcount=12

 

I just bought my first WW2 DCS module from steam sale at -40% reduced price but i guess i now should buy normandy + asset pack (to have realistic scenario and units) but on the other hand i would have to buy another SSD drive to have it installed and also more ram. Or i could just buy BoK to have more bang for the buck.

[Lusekofte]

 

 

The joy of the "startup sim" wears

 

You are aware of the cheat start up buttons?

 

[sHIFT]+[WIN]+[HOME] 

 

 

I just bought my first WW2 DCS module from steam sale at -40% reduced price but i guess i now should buy normandy + asset pack

 

I promised myself not to buy those packs, but I did. Same sickness that make me buy 777 products, can't help it, even though I hardly fly it 

[Danziger]

I really want the Mi-8 and the UH-1H but I wouldn't be able to download it until I get moved into some kind of house or apartment again. I really need a super high speed gaming laptop...

[BeastyBaiter]

I've been hovering my mouse button over selecting a heli module in DCS to fly in VR. Which is the best one for the VR experience?

 

UH-1, Ka-50 or Mi-8 I think. The UH-1 is super simple to operate and relatively easy to fly. The Mi-8 is far more complicated but also has heavier armament and greater flight performance. It's a sling loading monster if that's the type of thing that interests you. The Ka-50 is my favorite and by far the best armed, but it is a bit more complicated. It's also dated graphically even with a high res cockpit texture mod. So do be aware of that. The Gazelle has a highly simplified flight model and as such, I can't recommend it.

 

Edit: BST (guys  who made the UH-1 and Mi-8) are currently working on the Mi-24P Hind. If that aircraft interests you, the Mi-8 might be the best option for now as the Mi-24 shares many of the same systems, including the engines.

Edited May 5, 2017 by BeastyBaiter

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

You are aware of the cheat start up buttons?

 

[sHIFT]+[WIN]+[HOME] 

-snip-

 

Yeah, what's your point..?

[150GCT_Veltro]

All that potential will be wasted, if they don't implement a proper damage model.

 

+1

[BOO]

Yeah, what's your point..?

 

I think Lusses' point is that if you just want to get on with it you don't have to go through the click, flip, push, pump, pull, hold, twist, flick routines if you don't want to. Which would make me think he assumed it was this aspect you found tedious and was just pointing stuff out.  

[nirvi]

All that potential will be wasted, if they don't implement a proper damage model.

 

They are already working on it, and they hired some of the guys who created the damage model for CloD 

[Lusekofte]

 

 

Yeah, what's your point..?

 

Here you have the answer

 

 

 

I think Lusses' point is that if you just want to get on with it you don't have to go through the click, flip, push, pump, pull, hold, twist, flick routines if you don't want to. Which would make me think he assumed it was this aspect you found tedious and was just pointing stuff out.  

 

 

My old computer fly very well in DCS , but combined Track and Fraps it lags a lot occasionally . Here is why chopper interested simmers should get MI8 and Oilrig campaign.

This is my first edited video, and I know it is not good

[Gambit21]

In my humble opinion, out of the Huey, Gazelle, and Ka-50, I'd go with the Huey. I don't have the Mi-8.

 

The Ka-50 is a bit complicated, the Gazelle doesnt feel quite right, and the Huey feels just right an it's a lot of fun.

 

Give me Indo-China and I'm all over it!

[Lusekofte]

 

 

The Ka-50 is a bit complicated

 

This is why I hesitated buying it, it goes a myth about how much you need to learn. But it is really not that hard, KA 50 goes into auto hover while you are moving. It is easily controlled and the weapons on it is very accurate, well outside AA reach.

 

 

Give me Indo-China and I'm all over it!

This is so very true and the very most frustrating thing about DCS. We should have had F 4 Phantom , F 101 , Even a AN 2 . And the map ofcourse .

Nothing is quite ready for anything 

[Sokol1]

 

Jade_Monkey, on 04 May 2017 - 19:05, said:

The Ka-50 is a bit complicated

This is why I hesitated buying it, it goes a myth about how much you need to learn. But it is really not that hard, KA 50 goes into auto hover while you are moving. It is easily controlled and the weapons on it is very accurate, well outside AA reach.

 

Ka-50 weapon systems, navigation is a bit "complicated", but their fly is for forgiven than Huey, Gazelle due autopilot assistance modes.

[150GCT_Veltro]

Attacking the B-17 box, i think and i hope that this DM is just only an early WIP......

The lack of info about the new DM doesn't help.

 

Edited May 7, 2017 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Feathered_IV]

Those B-17 gunners certainly come with the Luftwaffe seal of approval.

[No_85_Gramps]

Those B-17 gunners certainly come with the Luftwaffe seal of approval.

My thoughts exactly.

[Lusekofte]

DCS in general have vey little detailed and oneway DM . In this case it seems the only thing you do is shooting right wing off. Not a single engine smoking . I bought this stuff , mostly because of the map. It probably going to be a year or two before I bother to install the bomber pack

[MiloMorai]

Lots of work has to be done on the bomber formation

[Jade_Monkey]

Is it me or the muzzle flash of the Fw190 is a bit ridiculous in that video?

 

Are you supposed to see that much of the flash from inside the cockpit?

Edited May 7, 2017 by Jade_Monkey

[Tomsk]

All that potential will be wasted, if they don't implement a proper damage model.

 

+9999 The DCS damage model is the weakest point of the game by a long way.

[Silver_Dragon]

All that potential will be wasted, if they don't implement a proper damage model.

 

New DM model (to DCS: World, not only WW2) has in progress (By old team members of original CloD team), but actually not dates or news about them. The B-17 Ai gunnery (no working actualy) and others WW2 features has actualy in progress

Edited May 7, 2017 by Silver_Dragon

[Sokol1]

Those B-17 gunners certainly come with the Luftwaffe seal of approval.

 

Lufwhiners will enjoy that gunners in BoS Pe-2.

[Danziger]

New DM model (to DCS: World, not only WW2) has in progress (By old team members of original CloD team), but actually not dates or news about them. The B-17 Ai gunnery (no working actualy) and others WW2 features has actualy in progress

I think a lot of people forget DCS is a WIP. They are trying to convert the very old game engine into a modern one.

[BeastyBaiter]

I see they've done nothing about the model popping for the B-17's. Look at the 13 min to 13.75 min marks as he zooms in and out. It's another game breaking issue along with the garbage damage modeling.

Edited May 7, 2017 by BeastyBaiter

[Silver_Dragon]

DCS World Week Update 07 May 2017 (English version) 

 

 

I think a lot of people forget DCS is a WIP. They are trying to convert the very old game engine into a modern one.

 

Continiuous WIP, the old engine was update fron Dx9 to Dx11 on 2015, and actually the process continue with new features, modules, maps and a long etc. 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116893

Edited May 7, 2017 by Silver_Dragon

[Sokol1]

216th_LuseKofte, on 04 May 2017 - 21:23, said:

-snip-snip... "click, click".

 

 

 

-snip-snip ... "E".

 

 

Edited May 7, 2017 by Sokol1

[Finkeren]

I think a lot of people forget DCS is a WIP. They are trying to convert the very old game engine into a modern one.

Well that's not unique to DCS, it's exactly the same for BoX. Rise of Flight originally came out just a few months after the first version of DCS.

 

I don't think people are forgetting anything.

[Lusekofte]

For my sake, DM does not matter that much the way I use DCS. And I think that goes for a lot of people. As long as it is adequate it is tolerated. DM is much more important in BOX to me. A great deal of its content is close combat. While DCS is more of a distance fight. Of course WW2 modules change that, and this is why they work on it. 

It was a real killer seeing a box formation of B 17 getting pounded and not one tiny bit of smoke on any of them. only wings that came off, witch is about the same visual damage model I got in a "sim" from 1996. 

To me a B 17 should have a very detailed visual and physical DM, they could take a good deal of beating, so it could fly with big chunks of fuselage and control surfaces away. There should be gear lowering due to hydraulic failure. It should have one of the most detailed DM in any sim

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Were those B-17s  really appearing/vanishing when he was engaging/disengaging formation ? It really looks bad, even though I assume its there to save the performance and maintain high framerates.  

[nirvi]

Were those B-17s  really appearing/vanishing when he was engaging/disengaging formation ? It really looks bad, even though I assume its there to save the performance and maintain high framerates.  

Nothing to do with performance, it's simply a LOD Bug. Pretty sure this will be fixed when the map is available for everyone. 

[Scojo]

Those B-17 gunners certainly come with the Luftwaffe seal of approval.

Everyone with JG at the beginning of their account name can confirm the inaccuracy there is historically accurate

[Danziger]

I don't think people are forgetting anything.

Then it seems like they have a personal axe to grind since this has gone from a DCS news thread to a DCS bashing thread.

[Finkeren]

Then it seems like they have a personal axe to grind since this has gone from a DCS news thread to a DCS bashing thread.

Rather, I think that people simply aren't willing to give DCS a free pass, because they know, that this sim struggles with the same challenges of an 8-year old engine, and (arguably) has done a better job of addressing these issues.

 

Still, I think you're right. This thread should primarilly be for discussing news and the good things about DCS (of which there are many), but lately it has been a lot of bashing. Seems like a lot of people have been fairly disappointed with the latest WW2 stuff, so maybe that's the reason. Let's get it back on track and talk about the great stuff.