HippyDruid Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Youtube just recommended this to me. It looks pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc5S6uGAroE
Gambit21 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Looking good. I have to say though, and I'm not just looking for things to pick on...this really does bother me to the extent that it's hard for me to pay attention to much else. The painterly looking landscape, trees etc. Like it was run through the "paint daubs" or similar filter in Photoshop...or actually painted. I hope that get's fixed....color pallet looks washed out as well. Ignoring other issues already discussed...looks pretty nice!
Guest deleted@50488 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Looking really nice, but while DCS and IL.2 BoX are IMO the best flight simulators I ever been able to use, with unique flight and overall physics modelling features, IL.2 has a "feel of flight" that is really outstanding, and which I can not find in any of the released ww2 modules for DCS. When comparing both sims, and although I am well aware there are quirks and limitations, bugs, ..., in IL.2, like in any flightsim, truth is it is my GO-To flight simulator when I need the real "feel of being there". Nothing can bring me that exact and unique feel. The harmonious behaviour of the various modules, the scenery, the light, the way even the skies are rendered, the visual identification of distant targets, the sounds... everything is in IL.2 second to no other sim, IMO. So, as nice as it can look, since my budget is limited, I am willing to save for IL.2 add-ons. The upcoming Spitfire IV comes to my mind as one of the 1st day buy collector planes to be released for BoK. And I didn't like Air Combat :-)
Finkeren Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Oh that landscape and especially the towns looks gorgeous. Still not sold on that grass though... If only there was a fleshed out plane set for it.
Dakpilot Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Normandy map + vehicles/assets $60 BoS + BoM + BoK + Ju-52 +Yak-1b Mustang $30 Spitfire $50 109 $50 190 $50 $240 ** $255 ** Release prices/non pre-order or sales (both platforms will have them) Personally I prefer BoX pricing/detail level. 4 flyable aircraft Vs 32 even if some are similar, and 1 map Vs 3 +Velikie Luki with only 1 season One can debate FM/accuracy/detail/Clickpits/study sim Vs arcade or CFM until the cows come home, and it it pretty ridiculous to do so considering the two different approaches, apples to oranges. But it is great to have a choice! I just do not think I can financially support both in their entirety, or ever have the time to fully know the idiosyncrasies of both systems, before you even get to the aircraft (purely personal, others will be different) Normandy Map am sure will be very nice but $60 ouch! Cheers Dakpilot 2
150GCT_Veltro Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 It does look insane, absolutely fantastic. K4 with this sound mod will be enough for this map. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/search/?tags=dcs%20sound%20mod I agree about IL2, but this DCS WW2 is a MUST.
nirvi Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Oh that landscape and especially the towns looks gorgeous. Still not sold on that grass though... If only there was a fleshed out plane set for it. There will be additional AI planes and other units: • Tanks and Mobile Artillery o M4 Sherman Firefly o M4A4 Sherman with "Rhino" hedge cutter o Mk VIII Cromwell o Jagdpanzer IV o Sd.Kfz. 162 o Tiger I o Tiger II o Panther V o Panzer IV o Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär, Sd. Kfz. 166 o Jagdpanther G1 • Cars and Trucks o Jeep Willys o Truck CCKW 353 o Bedford MWD o Kübelwagen 82 o Truck Blitz 36-6700A • Steam Train and Cars o DRG Class 86 locomotive o Tank wagon o G10 covered wagon o DR 50 Ton Flat Wagon Type SSys • Anti-Aircraft Artillery o Bofors 40 mm gun o 8.8 cm Flak Gun 18, 36, & 37 o 2 cm Flak 30/38/Flakvierling • Ships o LCVP Higgins o LST Mk2 o USS Samuel Chase • Infantry o US soldier o UK soldier o German soldier • Aircraft o B-17G bomber The DCS: World War II Assets Pack will continue to grow with DCS: Combined Arms compatibility and free asset additions that includes: • New tanks • SdKfz 234/2 "Puma" • Sd.Kfz. 251 • Sd.Kfz.2 Kettenkrad • Horch staff car • E-boat Schnellboot type S-130 • Uboat type 7 • German search lights • Barrage balloons • Avro Lancaster • Hawker Typhoon • C-47 • Ju-88 • Fw 190 A-6 and A-8 • Bf 109 G-6 • A-20 Havoc/Boston • B-24 • B-25 • B-26 Edited March 9, 2017 by nirvi
Finkeren Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 The DCS: World War II Assets Pack will continue to grow with DCS: Combined Arms compatibility and free asset additions that includes: • New tanks • SdKfz 234/2 "Puma" • Sd.Kfz. 251 • Sd.Kfz.2 Kettenkrad • Horch staff car • E-boat Schnellboot type S-130 • Uboat type 7 • German search lights • Barrage balloons • Avro Lancaster • Hawker Typhoon • C-47 • Ju-88 • Fw 190 A-6 and A-8 • Bf 109 G-6 • A-20 Havoc/Boston • B-24 • B-25 • B-26 Mjaaah, no, that isn't gonna happen. I wish it would though.
Guest deleted@50488 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I'm staying with IL.2, for now and pretty much for the future. Can't compare the amount of work done by 1C / 777 to bring updates and new content during the last 2 years to any other sim and, above all, can't have the same "feel of flight and of being there" with any other sim, although DCS can in some ways approach... It's always good to have choices of course, but I don't want to continue spending my money in platforms that overlap - ww2 is IL.2 BoX for me... ww1 is RoF, IFR is ELITE Pro, airliner is Aerowinx PSX...
Lusekofte Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 What to do with it other than shoot down AI bombers and dogfight? You find the Dora and 109 K outperform opponents like the Spit . In this game I own the WW2 stuff , but I do not fly it, not sure I am buying the map, unless some sort of general purpose plane is on the making
Finkeren Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 What to do with it other than shoot down AI bombers and dogfight? You find the Dora and 109 K outperform opponents like the Spit . In this game I own the WW2 stuff , but I do not fly it, not sure I am buying the map, unless some sort of general purpose plane is on the making It is interesting, that pretty much all the footage so far from the Normandy map has a Spit doing ground attack. It's almost like ED saying "God, we wish we'd started developing a Typhoon or a Tempest or at least not put the P-47 on hold".
Sokol1 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 As I buy this map from Luthier (despite don't believe in him ) for ~21$ (for now) I am satisfied - just fly Mk.IXe over that Channel will ensure countless hours of laisure, I give a dam for Paintshop effects on landscape illumination or if planes don't fly .
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Normandy map + vehicles/assets $60 BoS + BoM + BoK + Ju-52 +Yak-1b Mustang $30 Spitfire $50 109 $50 190 $50 $240 ** $255 ** Release prices/non pre-order or sales (both platforms will have them) I wouldn't count the 109 and 190 since they aren't part of the theater... maybe when the planned AI 109 G-6 and 190 A-6/A-8 are made flyable... but until that this would be a scenario for 1 side only if you want to stay accurate.
Gambit21 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 It does look insane, absolutely fantastic. K4 with this sound mod will be enough for this map. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/search/?tags=dcs%20sound%20mod I agree about IL2, but this DCS WW2 is a MUST. Let us know when 10...or 5...or 4 historically contemporary aircraft become available so that the "WWII" part can happen. Until then MUST doesn't play into it IMO.
kestrel79 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 So I read the release info...if you pledged at a certain level for the Kickstarter you get the Normandy map for free. Does anything remember what that level was? Think I only did the 3 plane level...I can't remember.
nirvi Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 So I read the release info...if you pledged at a certain level for the Kickstarter you get the Normandy map for free. Does anything remember what that level was? Think I only did the 3 plane level...I can't remember. If you pledged more than 20$, you get normandy + the asset pack. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=126712
9./JG27DavidRed Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 selling AI units seperately is a really idiotic choice imo. since yesterday i wish i hadnt backed the kickstarter project. wish i could boycott them. but definitely will in the future... no more money from me for those guys. defintiely not for AI. their decision brought me straight back to il2....now i just hope the guys here will eventually model a theater im really interested in.. 4
Guest deleted@50488 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) selling AI units seperately is a really idiotic choice imo. since yesterday i wish i hadnt backed the kickstarter project. wish i could boycott them. but definitely will in the future... no more money from me for those guys. defintiely not for AI. their decision brought me straight back to il2....now i just hope the guys here will eventually model a theater im really interested in.. Welcome back David, to where flight feels, overall, a lot more realistic / believable... To where Light, Skies and grounds / fields / water, glimpsing targets in the distance, and so on... looks Real... Welcome to where development is really dynamic... Welcome to where an upcoming update will fine-tune some aspects of roll-yaw coupling that still pledge some of the aircraft... And the new A-5 is just SO GREAT !!! I'm here for good - just wish I didn't spend my money on those useless DCS ww2 modules :-( I have to learn some dogfight tactics with you David! Edited March 9, 2017 by jcomm
150GCT_Veltro Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Let us know when 10...or 5...or 4 historically contemporary aircraft become available so that the "WWII" part can happen. Until then MUST doesn't play into it IMO. Actually P-47 should have to be on the way, what it's absolutely needed is a Jabo for the Luftwaffe, A8. Will ED understand this? We'll see.........and yes, i agree that this "understanding" could be a problem.
Guest deleted@1562 Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Nice looking map for sure! But until ED has the necessary AI and DM upgrades integrated into the engine, it's perfect for sight-seeing, but not useable as a combat scenario.
JG4_Sputnik Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Some new screenies https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181331&page=3
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I don't have time to play two games,give up Rof to BOS, and don't think I would give up bos to Clod. Anyway more is better for Simers. 1
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Some new screenies https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181331&page=3 What cities are we looking at there?
Feathered_IV Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 What cities are we looking at there? It's DCS. So perhaps Jacksonville, Tortuga and the outskirts of Melbourne? 3
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 It's DCS. So perhaps Jacksonville, Tortuga and the outskirts of Melbourne?
Brano Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 It's DCS. So perhaps Jacksonville, Tortuga and the outskirts of Melbourne?
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I'm buying a new pc. What a perfect excuse not to give a single penny to those guys. I also like to take a note that all this "pay for map" is doing, is further splitting their small community - not everyone is eager to spend so much money on yet another map, particularly if WWII is only a background for daily jet fighting. At the same time in Il-2 even when not having certain expansion, one can still participate with his friends in all kinds of maps and events.
Sokol1 Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 DCSW = DCS W'hat if, then the city is what you want.
kestrel79 Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I pledged for 3 planes years ago, still waiting for my P-47. Looks like I get the Normandy map then, nice. Time for a PC upgrade! I'm still waiting for DCS to merge into one install before I put it on my new SSD. I agree their pricing is very weird, and yes it will divide up what already is a small community of simmers. I guess they did it so their jet fans can fly their planes on the map that have no interest in ww2 stuff, but still it just seems strange to make people pay extra for something that is normally included in games as part of the price. Love flying IL2, still my favorite by far. I only like DCS for flying around and doing the training missions for fun. But as a combat sim I'll take IL2 any day.
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Quoting Sithsawpn comment on DCS boards: If a server is using the Asset pack, you wont be able to enter the server if you dont own it as well. Well, even if I would manage to purchase Normandy ... I dont feel like I want to buy Asset pack. At least not instantly. So I guess my ability to use Normandy in multiplayer would be none. Dang it.
Lusekofte Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) If I buy the map, witch I doubt I buy it all, And if I buy it all I do it because of a very good offline campaign. My interest is mostly depended on dedicated bombers. I do not care about the money spent, divided on some month it is not much, what I care about is my time to learn the modules and make a difference in them. I simply doubt a Stuka, P 38, JU 188, B 26 Ever would be built for this game. I can accept a Typhoon as it was used only for ground pounding Edited March 10, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte
Urra Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Quoting Sithsawpn comment on DCS boards: Well, even if I would manage to purchase Normandy ... I dont feel like I want to buy Asset pack. At least not instantly. So I guess my ability to use Normandy in multiplayer would be none. Dang it. Wow. That's my response to the policy.
Sokol1 Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I simply doubt a Stuka...would be built for this game. Stuka has not much to do in Normandy 1944 - is not 1940 B of B anymore.
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 If I buy the map, witch I doubt I buy it all, And if I buy it all I do it because of a very good offline campaign. My interest is mostly depended on dedicated bombers. I do not care about the money spent, divided on some month it is not much, what I care about is my time to learn the modules and make a difference in them. I simply doubt a Stuka, P 38, JU 188, B 26 Ever would be built for this game. I can accept a Typhoon as it was used only for ground pounding A Ju 87 G was planned but PolyChop cancelled it.
Thad Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 Everytime I remember that the P-40 is still not out, it amazes me. How on Earth can a developer take that long to get a single model out the door? Quite frankly... they could if they 'really' wanted to. Do you guys think that DCS WW2 will get controllable groundforces like combined arms? I kinda like combined arms, not so much that i play it often but the possiblity is nice, imagine that style in IL2 where players can have kind of a strategy game on the ground. Salutations, If DCS does end up offering player controllable WWII ground forces or combined arms action.. it is the only thing that will strongly pull me away from IL2.
BeastyBaiter Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 The setup is as follows: 1) Map + assets: $60 2) Map only: $45 3) Assets only: $30 The assets only kinda make sense even if overpriced, since a lot of us are using NTTR as generic desert map #1 but Normandy by itself strikes me as an odd option. In more interesting DCS news, Leatherneck broke into two teams (amicably they claim). The old Leatherneck (guys who made the MiG-21) will keep the name and ownership of the MiG-21. The new splinter team, called Heatblur, is lead by Cobra and own both the AJS-37 and the upcoming F-14. I think LNS have the F4U project but I'm not sure on that. Links to relevant posts below. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3076083#post3076083 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3076159#post3076159
JG5_Zesphr Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 On another side note, RAZBAM's Harrier is looking like a very nice module.
Guest deleted@30725 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I wonder when that will come out. I found statements that say that the Harrier was made for FSX and will be coming to DCS and you can see screenshots of in-engine stuff from 2012 here: http://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/378123-razbam-harrier/ They have this NTTR SS which I guess may be a bit more up to date with the other ones from 2012 and some others on their facebook page. I can imagine a lot of people getting a lot of seat time in this module and I bet vtol is not going to be easy in DCS. Edited March 11, 2017 by deleted@30725
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