1_Robert_ Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 Rather than tell me I’m wrong you can check out Stormbirds’ twitter page for more info. Geez guys this is a forum, a place to discuss things haha.
Amiral_Crapaud Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) It's DCS. But obviously we're talking modern-age playground (that is, Diaoyu islands or South China Sea). If they go for the Ryukyu though, that corsair might have something to do too! But even then, you can't use the same map with the same buildings for gameplay set 70 years apart... That's why I wouldn't exactly call that "someone else doing the Pacific" in the "PTO is coming at last" sense ^^ It's just a DCS map like Ormuz, expect to see JF-17s firing at F-22s (hopefully soon!) there, not kamikaze falling on your ships in droves. Edited December 21, 2019 by Amiral_Crapaud 1
HBPencil Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, =[TIA]=Stoopy said: OP is obviously being coy about it but some research pays off and shows Information Here I've been Rickrolled before but never Rickrock'n'rolled! ? 2
CanadaOne Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Amiral_Crapaud said: It's DCS. "Macbeth!" 2
Amiral_Crapaud Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 Come on. At any rate it's like comparing the DCS rendition of Caucasus to the Il-2 Kuban map. You wouldn't fly around oilrigs and satellite antennas - and I guess modern fliers are not so hot about 1940s collective farms either. It's not because the same region of the world gets recreated that someone is first or second somewhere, especially if it serves completely different purposes. 1
DD_fruitbat Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 Regardless, I'm still looking forward to landing a Corsair on an Essex class carrier after shooting down some Zero's with some squad mates.
Rolling_Thunder Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 1 aircraft, 1 carrier and 1 ai adversary does not make a theatre. You need a map and ground assets. Both of which will be a long time coming from that particular 3rd party. ED have no intention of expanding their WW2 modules to include the pacific. They've already said that western front WW2 is their WW2 focus. Leathernecks next module, after the corsair, is the F8 crusader. There will be no focus on WW2 from them. It's a one off. 2
simfan2015 Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 I'm quite sure by the time ED created that *complete* PTO Captain James T. Kirk will be looking down upon us and they could just as well start with ... the Star Wars series. Don't think 1C has anything to be afraid off ! OTOH ... I'll be first in line to buy that corsair ?
Lusekofte Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 I am inimpression that many believe that any other sim is a threat to GB. In fact if there came another good WW2 sim in any theatre it will only benefit the genre. Thanks to COD old IL 2 and DCS people in genre sayed in genre. Many people not active in this forum migrated once GB went west. Many options brings people. personally I would sell all my sim equipment if I only had GB or DCS. Both almost fill my thirst. Another pacific Sim would if good enough make it complete if it covered New Guinea and Burma as well 5
Jaws2002 Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I am inimpression that many believe that any other sim is a threat to GB. In fact if there came another good WW2 sim in any theatre it will only benefit the genre. Thanks to COD old IL 2 and DCS people in genre sayed in genre. Many people not active in this forum migrated once GB went west. Many options brings people. personally I would sell all my sim equipment if I only had GB or DCS. Both almost fill my thirst. Another pacific Sim would if good enough make it complete if it covered New Guinea and Burma as well It's not many. It's just the Politburo. Edited December 21, 2019 by Jaws2002 4
CanadaOne Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 I never treat the paying customer like a child to be silenced and kept in the dark. When I price a job, I tell the customer to get quotes and to ask around about our reputation. We stand on professional service, not on pretending we're the only game in town.
BraveSirRobin Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, CanadaOne said: I never treat the paying customer like a child to be silenced and kept in the dark. When I price a job, I tell the customer to get quotes and to ask around about our reputation. We stand on professional service, not on pretending we're the only game in town. No one is trying to keep you in the dark. If you want to discuss DCS, go to the DCS forum. But don’t try to discuss GB over there. It’s against the rules. 1 1
1_Robert_ Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 It’s funny, the more I try the other games the more I come to appreciate the GB series. Maybe not perfect but boy do they get it right in so many ways. Since it’s modern era and won’t be a real “theatre” or proper campaign, this other game of course will most likely be a stale and boring environment. Others will like it but not for me. Anyways, the point of the post is still how I wish this series would get to the PTO. Maybe one day, and yes I agree it will be done right.
1CGS LukeFF Posted December 21, 2019 1CGS Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Jaws2002 said: It's not many. It's just the Politburo. Knock it off with the stupid name-calling. It makes you look ridiculous. 1 1
BraveSirRobin Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 5 hours ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I am inimpression that many believe that any other sim is a threat to GB. It’s my impression that you’re the only person who believes this.
Lusekofte Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: It’s my impression that you’re the only person who believes this. Yes than I must say you suffer from one of 3 things Stupidity, dyslexia or simply never read post you quote. I have countless times defended other sims against your poison Edited December 21, 2019 by No.322_LuseKofte 4
BraveSirRobin Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I have countless times defended other sims against your poison 1. This is nonsense. 2. Even if I were to trash other sIms, that in no way means that they’re a “threat”. It means that I don’t like the sim that I’m trashing. If I think a sim is terrible, why would I possibly see it as a threat?
Lusekofte Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: 1. This is nonsense. 2. Even if I were to trash other sIms, that in no way means that they’re a “threat”. It means that I don’t like the sim that I’m trashing. If I think a sim is terrible, why would I possibly see it as a threat? Believe it or not. I did not have you in my mind writing initial post. I just mention it because of very polarized debate whenever other sims get mentioned. But you read it as a personal message
CanadaOne Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: No one is trying to keep you in the dark. If you want to discuss DCS, go to the DCS forum. But don’t try to discuss GB over there. It’s against the rules. Cool! This thread has a winter map. It's snowing in here.
BraveSirRobin Posted December 21, 2019 Posted December 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: Believe it or not. I did not have you in my mind writing initial post. I just mention it because of very polarized debate whenever other sims get mentioned. But you read it as a personal message No, I didn't read it as being directed at me. Why would anyone see other games as a "threat"? CloD? Lol. DCS? They have 1 WW2 map with the wrong aircraft. What's the threat? Believe it or not, but people can dislike other games without seeing them as a threat. In fact, I haven't seen anyone in here who seems to think those games are threats.
Stoopy Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, CanadaOne said: I have Vegas in another si... I mean a map of Vegas in D... I mean, um.... there's a plane that I can fly over Vegas, not a real plane of course, but a simul... uhhhh... Hmmmm.... (rubs chin).... Flying a Corsair? Over Vegas? In a simulator? (Snaps Fingers) - Got it! This is about Aerofly FS2, isn't it? Edited December 22, 2019 by =[TIA]=Stoopy
Lusekofte Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 I like to point out many and yours endeavor into DCS tread just to say how bad it is. I do not go in a GB tread doing the same, at worse I tell my point of view on how it could be better. 1
DD_fruitbat Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 Il2 and DCS clearly offer such different experiences, that to be called direct competitors, unless you are foolish enough to just bracket them as flight sims, is ridiculous. Only a fool wouldn't realise that both do some things better than the other, and what's the big problem in that? I enjoy both, and will continue to do so. Il2 is clearly the better 'game' and i don't use that word in any disingenuous sense, it has maps, theaters and plane sets that are coherent, and i can boot it up and jump in any plane and pretty much fly them, without spending hours on YouTube! DCS, on the flip side, gives me a completely different experience, and I can't really focus on more than 2 planes at any one time, such is the different individuality aspect of each plane. At the moment it's the spitfire and f16. I can fly the mustang as well, but not even going to bother with another jet, just to much! But i find DCS incredibly rewarding because of this as well. I fly both with my squad mates(il2 is our staple sim, in huge part to Vander's utility) and both are fantastic sims on my computer, with very different experiences offered to me. But rabid fanbois will be fanbois about both sims???
BraveSirRobin Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I like to point out many and yours endeavor into DCS tread just to say how bad it is. I do not go in a GB tread doing the same, at worse I tell my point of view on how it could be better. Who are you talking to? Because I’ve never seen anyone in here say that DCS is bad. Edited December 22, 2019 by BraveSirRobin
CanadaOne Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, =[TIA]=Stoopy said: Hmmmm.... (rubs chin).... Flying a Corsair? Over Vegas? In a simulator? (Snaps Fingers) - Got it! This is about Aerofly FS2, isn't it? I was alluding to the Nevada map in "The Scottish Sim". No Corsair, but I did just get the Yak-52, which is actually a lot of fun. 26 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said: Il2 is clearly the better 'game' and i don't use that word in any disingenuous sense . . . DCS, on the flip side, gives me a completely different experience . . . Agreed. I fly Il2 as a combat sim and "The Scottish Sim" - if you will excuse my Macbeth analogies - as more of a general flight simulator. I like the cities and night lighting and big airports. And you get to blow stuff up as well if the mood strikes you. I think I have six planes and four maps. I'd put Il2 as probably 90% of my flying and DCS at 10%.
DD_fruitbat Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: Agreed. I fly Il2 as a combat sim and "The Scottish Sim" - if you will excuse my Macbeth analogies - as more of a general flight simulator. I like the cities and night lighting and big airports. And you get to blow stuff up as well if the mood strikes you. I think I have six planes and four maps. I'd put Il2 as probably 90% of my flying and DCS at 10%. I probably at the moment fly about 50/50. I agree with your sentiment, and too fly il2 as a combat flight sim only, that's what it is and it does it well, if I want to just mess around and fly, its dcs every time (ww2). Flying the spitfire in dcs is just amazing. Will be interesting to see how the new damage model coming for dcs will turn out, either way, exciting times for both sims.
Wolf8312 Posted December 22, 2019 Posted December 22, 2019 God Normandy is looking and performing fine now in DCS! I think they have also fixed prop artifacts as well, so it works with motions smoothing on! Apparently AI has also been improved though I have yet to verify this. To be honest its always been the german planes for which the AI has been a massive problem. Fantastic times ahead though...
ACG_Wind Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 DCS announced upcoming release of new free Mariana Islands Map! Will this set DCS as frontrunner for WWII carrier operations in high fidelity VR experiences?! I am very much looking forward to seeing where this goes, and perhaps it may bump IL2 efforts to see which development studio makes first offerings of WWII carrier based scenarios...unseen since IL2 Pacific Fighters/1946! Link to the Announcement
Amiral_Crapaud Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 I don't know if this done so on purpose, or what... What has been announced is nowhere remotely connected to what you're claiming in this topic. As it is, beyond the nice colors and the GPS coordinates, this map as planned is no more adapted or relevant to WW2 than the current Caucasus map would be. It is modern-day Marianas. 2
Bremspropeller Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 A map like the Marianas is basicly what I always wanted in DCS (I'd have based in on the Spratlies, but that one does well enough). And it's free! Great news!
kestrel79 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 Not gonna complain about a free map. Looks good, and it's islands so should have good fps. Looks like fun I'm pumped! Lots of good stuff coming to DCS in 2020 I just got their email update.
ACG_Wind Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Amiral_Crapaud said: I don't know if this done so on purpose, or what... What has been announced is nowhere remotely connected to what you're claiming in this topic. As it is, beyond the nice colors and the GPS coordinates, this map as planned is no more adapted or relevant to WW2 than the current Caucasus map would be. It is modern-day Marianas. Indeed, its pure speculation on my part, but with the set of islands noted as included in the map, all are key areas associated with WWII action during that part of the War. Additionally given its islands/Pacific arena, it must be Naval-based aviation, and it seems logical that this map may be a springboard to WWII naval aviation as well as modern?!
Amiral_Crapaud Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 You do acknowledge that building masonry & design did make some yet rather visible progress over the course of these few decades since 1944, right? ?? They chose it - as they say - on purpose because there's an actual modern US base there. I just don't see what you mean by springboard - in that regard, any map with water will do. Not sure we need to create the sort of tension you are building up with this sort of conjectures, to me that's just cheap bait right there. ? 1
sevenless Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 When will it be released? 2022? When will the pacific WW2 planes be released? 2025?
Trooper117 Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, WindWpn said: DCS announced upcoming release of new free Mariana Islands Map! Will this set DCS as frontrunner for WWII carrier operations Having read through the news, I fail to see any mention of WWII carrier ops being produced... I suggest a trip to spec savers!
DD_fruitbat Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, sevenless said: When will it be released? 2022? When will the pacific WW2 planes be released? 2025? Well, there's video of the corsair flying, video of the Essex class carrier, pics of the map, so way before we'll be doing it in il2 if ever. The map is clearly not part of a ww2 module, but will still be also clearly be able to put the Essex class carrier, corsair and ai zero into a more ideal location. Seriously, whats not to like?
CanadaOne Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 A free map. What's not to love? More planes + more maps = more fun! It's that simple.
AndyJWest Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 Free maps are good. As for its relevance to WWII air combat, not really, unless you are willing to ignore the anachronistic details (or stay off the islands entirely) but that isn't what they seem to be promoting it for. Though I'm not sure that either the Russians or the Chinese actually see the Marianas as of particular strategic significance.
Bremspropeller Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: Though I'm not sure that either the Russians or the Chinese actually see the Marianas as of particular strategic significance. I think it's a great stand-in for the Spratly Islands and all the action going on off-shore off China. It's a nice sandbox-terrain to play "pretend" on. 1
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