Semor76 Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 I've stumbled across this a few minutes ago..what the heck ? 2 2
SCG_Wulfe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) As crazy and impressive of a setup as that is, It really doesn't reflect the forces the real pilot would be feeling in those situations. There's just no way that I can see a motion rig doing so. There needs to be sustained positive and negative g forces that could for example actually be pressing you into the seat during a loop even though you are upside down. Actually come to think of it, I can think of one way. You'd need a spinning g-force rig like the one pictured where the pilot can also articulate in all directions like the one pictured in the video above. That would almost do it. Seems its been done, basically this. Edited January 22, 2020 by SCG_Wulfe 1
SCG_motoadve Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Just now, SCG_Wulfe said: As crazy and impressive of a setup as that is, It really doesn't reflect the forces the real pilot would be feeling in those situations. There's just no way that I can see a motion rig doing so. There needs to be sustained positive and negative g forces that actually could for example actually be pressing you into the seat during a loop even though you are upside down. You beat me to it. I tried one of those sims and its totally different than real flying, after lots of rolls and loops ended up with a headache (which does not happen in the real plane) In a loop for example you stay glued to your seat IRL because of the G forces, and float at the top 0 Gs, in this sim once you are upside down , your body wants to fall down, you are having 1 G pulling you down. In a roll , same stuff when you are upside down your body wants to fall down. When In real life its a 1 G maneuver, you stay glued to your seat. Its pretty cool, but I think it would be impossible to simulate G forces, so for me I would like one that goes close to vertical but wont loop, so need one too , just with that modification. ? 2
Cynic_Al Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, SCG_Wulfe said: As crazy and impressive of a setup as that is, It really doesn't reflect the forces the real pilot would be feeling in those situations. There's just no way that I can see a motion rig doing so. There needs to be sustained positive and negative g forces that could for example actually be pressing you into the seat during a loop even though you are upside down. All you need is a variable gravity generator. 1
HeavyCavalrySgt Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, SCG_Wulfe said: As crazy and impressive of a setup as that is, It really doesn't reflect the forces the real pilot would be feeling in those situations. Yeah, I was just going to say that - in a 2g turn, you feel 2g pulling you into the seat even if you are banked at 60 degrees, not 1g at a 60 degree angle.
CanadaOne Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said: All you need is a variable gravity generator. You mean... beer? 6
Jaws2002 Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Semor76 said: I've stumbled across this a few minutes ago..what the heck ? Screw that.....where can i keep my beer or glass of Remy Martin?
SCG_Wulfe Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said: Its pretty cool, but I think it would be impossible to simulate G forces, so for me I would like one that goes close to vertical but wont loop, so need one too , just with that modification. ? Upon reflection I actually think that those spinning G-Force machines (like the ones I shared in the videos) with a fully articulated end bit that could turn you to face any direction almost instantly depending on the g-forces required would come pretty darn close to approximating the real thing. It would need some impressive calibration to orient you correctly at all times for the appropriate forces though. It would also need to be able to ramp up and down extremely quickly. Edited January 23, 2020 by SCG_Wulfe
SCG_OpticFlow Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SCG_Wulfe said: Upon reflection I actually think that those spinning G-Force machines (like the ones I shared in the videos) with a fully articulated end bit that could turn you to face any direction almost instantly depending on the g-forces required would come pretty darn close to approximating the real thing. It would need some impressive calibration to orient you correctly at all times for the appropriate forces though. It would also need to be able to ramp up and down extremely quickly. Seems like something an air force training center would operate. Not DIY project in your basement.
SCG_Wulfe Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, OpticFlow said: Seems like something an air force training center would operate. Not DIY project in your basement. Haha yes absolutely. Thought maybe someday in like a specialized VR gaming facility ?♂️
SCG_OpticFlow Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, SCG_Wulfe said: Haha yes absolutely. Thought maybe someday in like a specialized VR gaming facility ?♂️ Perhaps... at lower G... Seems like they have a flight sim setup in the centrifuge already -- https://youtu.be/_0nbRYIBVDQ?t=701
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Maybe this tech could work , they said you can feel acceleration , pilot felt Gs is centrifugal force made by acceleration. You want fell strain from being heavy but might feel acceleration . Edited January 23, 2020 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk 1
SCG_Wulfe Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said: Maybe this tech could work , they said you can feel acceleration , pilot felt Gs is centrifugal force made by acceleration. You want fell strain from being heavy but might feel acceleration . Wow! very interesting. Still not the same as those forces all over your body, but I can see it still really helping to feel in-tune with the motion of the plane. Edited January 24, 2020 by SCG_Wulfe
Semor76 Posted January 25, 2020 Author Posted January 25, 2020 And the next one. Hehehe, german engineering at it´s best. Really impressive.
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