BoN speculation on first aircraft release...

[sevenless]

This nails it.

 

A. This is the proposed order in the schedule, but I warn you that it will likely change, some may finish early and some may take longer then planned. Also, dates will shift so I'm not going to assign any dates to them. They will be released as soon as they are ready.

 

Yak-9/ 9T

P-47D-22

Hurricane Mk. IIb/c/d

C-47 (AI)

Fw-190 A-6

Spitfire Mk. XIV

Typhoon Mk.Ib

P-51B/C

Bf-190 G-6 (Late)

Ju-88 C-6a

B-26 (AI)

Mosquito FB Mk.VI

Me-410

Ar-234

V-1

 

 

Edited January 22, 2020 by sevenless

[Rjel]

That list kinda blows most of our expectations of the 109 and 190 being the first to be released out of the water. I'm quite surprised to see the razorback P-47 coming so early in the development cycle too.

[HerrBree]

22 minutes ago, Rjel said:

That list kinda blows most of our expectations of the 109 and 190 being the first to be released out of the water.

It gives me hope that maybe the 109 will come with a couple engine mods.

[Legioneod]

22 minutes ago, Rjel said:

That list kinda blows most of our expectations of the 109 and 190 being the first to be released out of the water. I'm quite surprised to see the razorback P-47 coming so early in the development cycle too.

Yep very surprising to see the P-47D-22 so soon but I won't complain, it's the aircraft I'm most looking forward to.

[=621=Samikatz]

I'm guessing the A-6 and G-6 being so far down means they'll get some fun mods to make up for being "more of the same"

 

The most important part of that post is confirming that we're getting a IID Hurri. Can't wait to hit a He-111 with two 40mms at convergence

[II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson]

29 minutes ago, =621=Samikatz said:

The most important part of that post is confirming that we're getting a IID Hurri. Can't wait to hit a He-111 with two 40mms at convergence

 

What was the historical prevalence of that weapon loadout? 

[MasserME262]

the plane that I want the most is one of the last ?

[=621=Samikatz]

20 minutes ago, III./JG7-MarkWilhelmsson said:

 

What was the historical prevalence of that weapon loadout? 

 

The D model was explicitly equipped with 40mm guns. Nearly 300 were built and a few ended up being given to the USSR once the RAF were done with them. Not sure how many made it to Russia but there are quite a few photos out there of Hurricanes in Red Air Force colours with big guns

 

 

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

Btw Jason updated the proposed map for Battle of Normandy, expanding a bit further to the south at the expense of some area to the east.
 

I made a comparison between both first and second maps

[Legioneod]

35 minutes ago, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

Btw Jason updated the proposed map for Battle of Normandy, expanding a bit further to the south at the expense of some area to the east.

...

 

New map boundaries make alot more sense imo and will benefit post invasion scenarios greatly.

 

I'm curious to know if Normandy will include smaller villages and farms, something that is sorely missing (imo) on the Bodenplatte map.

[6FG_Big_Al]

I'm not sure I like the new measurements that much more. I believe that the map like all the others are a big challenge, but cutting the rest away just after Calais is not so nice. Poor Dunkirk, we won't be able to help you now
Even with the expansion to the south, you might have been able to go even further east. Even if the measurements had come to the Bodenplatte map, there would still be the puddle called the English Channel, which will probably take some of the work off.

 

[=621=Samikatz]

If I had to guess, I imagine the extra work of detailing coastline more than makes up for the lack of land in terms of work hours

[ww2fighter20]

2 hours ago, 6FG_Big_Al said:

I'm not sure I like the new measurements that much more. I believe that the map like all the others are a big challenge, but cutting the rest away just after Calais is not so nice. Poor Dunkirk, we won't be able to help you now
Even with the expansion to the south, you might have been able to go even further east. Even if the measurements had come to the Bodenplatte map, there would still be the puddle called the English Channel, which will probably take some of the work off.

 

The main problem why they won't expend the map eastwards is the city of Paris, same reason it won't be extended northward (London).

[THERION]

1 hour ago, ww2fighter20 said:

The main problem why they won't expend the map eastwards is the city of Paris, same reason it won't be extended northward (London).

 

Well, I think this is a minor "problem" - they do their best to keep the map playable not only for those guys with i10s/3080ti-super-duper systems.

It's like the Moscow map, you can see the Moscow city very well but you're not able to fly over it officially. Just imagine the ranting when it comes

to the details of London and Paris - like where the heck is the Piccadilly circus, I miss the Abbey road or we don't have the Trocadéro and the

Notre Dame is not accurate - common, give them a break.

 

And, who knows, maybe one day with a more beefy game engine we will all be able to fly over a meticulous, fully detailed city of London, Paris

and Moscow - never stop dreaming, still keep it reasonable...

 

Now, that being said, I really enjoy the huge performance gain we can see with the actual maps - stutter is almost gone.

 

Have a nice day you all.

 

Cheers

Edited January 22, 2020 by -=-THERION

[Yogiflight]

9 hours ago, Legioneod said:

Yep very surprising to see the P-47D-22 so soon but I won't complain, it's the aircraft I'm most looking forward to.

My guess is, they want to do a complete overwork of the 47 after all the complaints.

[kendo]

9 hours ago, Rjel said:

That list kinda blows most of our expectations of the 109 and 190 being the first to be released out of the water. I'm quite surprised to see the razorback P-47 coming so early in the development cycle too.

 

Think it shows up the pointlessness of threads like this, except for giving people a chance to discuss their favourite planes. In terms of getting the order right or foretelling the future...forget it! 

 

44 minutes ago, -=-THERION said:

Well, I think this is a minor "problem" - they do their best to keep the map playable not only for those guys with i10s/3080ti-super-duper systems.

It's like the Moscow map, you can see the Moscow city very well but you're not able to fly over it officially. Just imagine the ranting when it comes

to the details of London and Paris - like where the heck is the Piccadilly circus, I miss the Abbey road or we don't have the Trocadéro and the

Notre Dame is not accurate - common, give them a break.

 

I agree. I flew over the Bodenplatte depiction of Amsterdam last night for the first time and was mightily disappointed. A recognisable Centraal Station, though sitting a little lonely and unintegrated into its surroundings, but the depiction of the Red Light district was deeply disappointing and lacking in detail.....! 

 

Overall, i can see why they want to avoid depicting major cities .Think the decision to have Moscow looking wonderful in the background, but not viewable up close was sheer genius.

 

19 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

My guess is, they want to do a complete overwork of the 47 after all the complaints.

 

i hope so. That would be great.

Edited January 22, 2020 by kendo

[CountZero]

I like the new map area

[LuftManu]

I like the new map area, it's more suitable for Overlord and ground attack and combat operations! ?

 

The English coast is the same so far, so Cross channel operations are still viable like before and a P-47 that soon means probably that they will revisit the DM and such. Great news.

[SCG_motoadve]

P47 needs major re work in the DM department, if the new one comes the same, it would be a huge disappointment.

Right now in game it is one of the easiest airplanes to shoot down, its a joke!

 

I am reading the Hell Hawks 365th Fighter Bomber group book, its really good, lots of first account narrations and lots and lots of accounts of P47s surviving and making it back with lots of damage, to the air frame and engines half blown that still made it back..

Not a single account of wings coming off though ?

[LuftManu]

2 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

P47 needs major re work in the DM department, if the new one comes the same, it would be a huge disappointment.

Right now in game it is one of the easiest airplanes to shoot down, its a joke!

 

I am reading the Hell Hawks 365th Fighter Bomber group book, its really good, lots of first account narrations and lots and lots of accounts of P47s surviving and making it back with lots of damage, to the air frame and engines half blown that still made it back..

Not a single account of wings coming off though ?

I am sure it will have it. I remember the Focke wulf facing some problems that were revisited when the A5 came out. Same with the BOBP update for both A5 and A8. 

[CountZero]

Also nice to see Spit XIV is planed to be 3rd BoN airplane out. Suprised to see C-47 AI is planed to be out that soon, V-1 last to the party ?

Edited January 22, 2020 by CountZero

[RedKestrel]

10 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Also nice to see Spit XIV is planed to be 3rd BoN airplane out. Suprised to see C-47 AI is planed to be out that soon, V-1 last to the party ?

It might be the last to the party but I think we can be pretty sure it will arrive with a bang!

[40plus]

All of the interesting birds are at the tail end. Oh well.

[Legioneod]

10 hours ago, ww2fighter20 said:

The main problem why they won't expend the map eastwards is the city of Paris, same reason it won't be extended northward (London).

They'll have to model some of Paris anyways due to the outskirts being in the corner of the map. I'd be a bit disappointed if I was flying on the edge of the map and there was a blank spot in the distance where Paris was supposed to be. They wouldn't have to model it with all that much detail since you wouldn't actually be able to fly over it.

 

9 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

My guess is, they want to do a complete overwork of the 47 after all the complaints.

Hope so.

5 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

P47 needs major re work in the DM department, if the new one comes the same, it would be a huge disappointment.

Right now in game it is one of the easiest airplanes to shoot down, its a joke!

 

I am reading the Hell Hawks 365th Fighter Bomber group book, its really good, lots of first account narrations and lots and lots of accounts of P47s surviving and making it back with lots of damage, to the air frame and engines half blown that still made it back..

Not a single account of wings coming off though ?

Yep, it's a shame. It's my favorite aircraft but I can't fly it much anymore due to the DM problems with the wings and engine. I've been sticking with the P-51 or Tempest until the P-47 gets some love.

I'll fly the D-22 regardless though since it is my all time favorite P-47 block, but I really hope they work on the P-47 some more in regards to DM.

Edited January 22, 2020 by Legioneod

[CUJO_1970]

On 1/19/2020 at 8:04 PM, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

I guess they are going to make MW 50 as mod, to cover the earlier than April 44 timeframe. Fingers crossed for AS engine as mod as well.

 

There shouldn't be any finger crossing required for /AS or MW50 mods. These are just typical and historic variants of the G6 Late.