Torpedoes, cluster bombs, gliding bombs, other fun stuff

[jollyjack]

i liked the sturmoviks carrying torpedos in IL2 1946 ..... someday perhaps?

 

2 Sturmovik Qestions; What are these:

 

Pic 1, maybe some biological male reproduction organ:

 

 

Pic 2, looks like an onboard vodka distillery:

 

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by jollyjack
pictures moved

[Cpt_Siddy]

Looks like air filter for air intake and a fuel tank? 

[migmadmarine]

I believe the torpedo carrying sturmovik in 1946 was a prototype version. 

 

[Enceladus828]

I think torpedoes should be implemented into IL-2 Great Battles for at least the He-111 and the Ju-88 because IIRC, in IL-2 FBs these planes (the He-111 mainly) carried torpedoes.

[mort]

Not sure if it fits the Kuban timeline or not but it would be very cool to get them on the Havoc as well.

Edited September 23, 2019 by mort

[LukeFF]

8 minutes ago, LLv24_Sukka24 said:

Also for FW190

 

Prototypes only. 

[InProgress]

 

 

[-LUCKY-ThanksSkeletor]

1 hour ago, InProgress said:

 

 

 

I'm hungering for some anti shipping in north Africa. Can't wait

[40plus]

Pleeeeeease!

 

I'm dreaming doing torpedo runs in a 111-H6. It would be terrific fun.

[Semor76]

1 hour ago, -LUCKY-ThanksSkeletor said:

 

I'm hungering for some anti shipping in north Africa. Can't wait

Me too! But you know for the surviving rate of the He-111 Torpedo flyers...

[Yogiflight]

A coordinated torpedo attack of He111 and dive bombing attack of Ju88, that's the way to divide the AAA fire.

[Luftschiff]

Heinkel, Swordfish, Kate, Avenger - I'll take any and ALL torpedo planes please!

Throw an Arado 196 in for good measure!

[Blitzen]

Torpedos ...yes...but I'd first like drop tanks!

[Sublime]

On 9/22/2019 at 2:02 PM, jollyjack said:

i liked the sturmoviks carrying torpedos in IL2 1946 ..... someday perhaps?

 

2 Sturmovik Qestions; What are these:

 

Pic 1, maybe some biological male reproduction organ:

 

 

Pic 2, looks like an onboard vodka distillery:

 

 

Pic 1 is the oil radiator. Its made like that to be closed during attack runs. - it has an armored cover for closing during a run...

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

53 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Pic 1 is the oil radiator. Its made like that to be closed during attack runs. - it has an armored cover for closing during a run...

As Siddy said, the circle in the first picture shows the air filter for the supercharger air intake. The shutter closes when the gear is down so the air passes through the filtered sides, when the gear is up the central shutter opens.

The oil radiator is the square box you see below the circle in the same image and the armor tabs are visible too.

[Semor76]

7 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Torpedos ...yes...but I'd first like drop tanks!

 

Deal!

 

But after the drop tanks, and before we load any sort of torpedo into any kind of plane, can I have my He-115c-2 first please ?

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by Semor76

[Luftschiff]

What a beauty... ❤️

[Yogiflight]

I would like to have this one, too, but as far as I know, it was not used as torpedo bomber very much, because of its low speed. But for SAR missions in the Black Sea, it might make sense, if we ever get pilots not being drowned as soon as they touch a puddle.

[Ribbon]

+162626 for torpedos.

Perfect would be to see it in PTO next year?

[Semor76]

6 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

I would like to have this one, too, but as far as I know, it was not used as torpedo bomber very much, because of its low speed. But for SAR missions in the Black Sea, it might make sense, if we ever get pilots not being drowned as soon as they touch a puddle.

Well,I recommend you this book. (if you not already have it) There was a lot of He-111 crews who fly Torpedo attacks. Mostly in the  Mediterranean area. But yea, it was more like suicide with the relatively slow and vulnerable Planes. The Loss rate was  exceptional high for this crews.

 

 

Edited September 26, 2019 by Semor76

[sparty72]

Torps would be great but imo would need a larger  target base (ships ala BB's CC etc and also those carriers, someone mention Midway at all (please gimme, i'm holding my pee in till you give it to us Devs)..) be nice if we could have the SD series of munitions ingame as these would fit in with the current progression of the game, Soviets already have PTAB which is similiar result ingame on targets, saying all that, so far game has been worth every penny and i trust in Dev teams future outlook!

 

Regards, Sparty

[Yogiflight]

48 minutes ago, Semor76 said:

Well,I recommend you this book. (if you not already have it) There was a lot of He-111 crews who fly Torpedo attacks. Mostly in the  Mediterranean area. But yea, it was more like suicide with the relatively slow and vulnerable Planes. The Loss rate was  exceptional high for this crews.

 

 

Yes I know the 111 was used as torpedo bomber, but I was talking about the 115, you posted. I always had a preference for seaplanes.

[Semor76]

Ok. Sorry mate.Now I see it. I´ve stumbled into the damm language barrier once again. Kudos to you. You´re right about the He-115´s role.

 

Gruß aus Südhessen. ?

 

[Yogiflight]

56 minutes ago, Semor76 said:

Gruß aus Südhessen. ?

Gruß zurück aus Unterfranken

Yes, I, too have to fight quite sometimes with my school english.

[WokeUpDead]

Are there plans to create a bigger variety of weapons that can be dropped from bombers?

 

Torpedoes should probably be #1 on the list, but I wonder if we need new planes for it or if field modifications to existing planes would be enough to make it historically accurate enough. On the Soviet side it would be simple, IL-2s (specifically: IL-2M-3s) were able to carry them with a field mod. A-20s could too, but I'm not sure if the glazed-nosed ones we have in game now were able to.

On the German side, the Ju-88 and the He-111 carried torpedoes. The 88 had its gondola removed to do this, and there were several variants of the 111 that could carry torpedoes.

 

Big bombs that fragmented into little bomblets were a lot of fun in IL-2 1946, I remember the Ju-88 being able to carry a couple of huge ones, and the 190 and IL-2 had smaller ones too. There were ones meant to be used against tanks as well as others for softer targets.

 

Finally, gliding bombs dropped from the He-111. I never got the hang of them in 1946, but I'd like to try again here. Obviously these were rare and exotic and may not have been used at all on the Eastern front, but I hope we get them if we ever get a Mediterranean theater at least.

 

 

[MikhaVT]

The latest variant of the IL-2 has the option to carry a very large number of anti-tank bombletts. not quite the same as a cluster bomb, but pretty neat.

[Chief_Mouser]

Air-dropped torpedoes would be nice and in my view, essential.

Also, the Il-2 Mod.1943 can carry up to x240 2.5-1.25 bomblets. If you can hit anything with them, then 'You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

Cheers.

 

[Ribbon]

Well, recently i'm raping forum for torpedo bombers that could be included in BoN such as ju88a17, ju188e2 and he111 variants.

It would fit BoN nicely and provide new gameplay element since there are enough inland bombers in planeset.

There was up to 90 ju88s running torpedo attacks on allied supply ships and ports.

So ju88a17 or ju188e2 instead of ju88c6(heavy fighter blah) would be more than welcome!

[WokeUpDead]

25 minutes ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

So ju88a17 or ju188e2 instead of ju88c6(heavy fighter blah) would be more than welcome!

 

I imagine it's more difficult to introduce torpedoes with their physics than it is to remove the navigator and add some guns to a ju88, but I agree, it would be more than welcome.

[40plus]

42 minutes ago, WokeUpDead said:

 

I imagine it's more difficult to introduce torpedoes with their physics than it is to remove the navigator and add some guns to a ju88, but I agree, it would be more than welcome.

 

Torpedoes, and their in-water physics, already exist in the game. All we need is the air drop part.

 

 

Edited January 9, 2020 by pfrances

[Bremspropeller]

We need cluster ammo!

 

[Ribbon]

28 minutes ago, pfrances said:

 

Torpedoes, and their in-water physics, already exist in the game. All we need is the air drop part.

 

 

Yup, already ingame but i think it would require more attention to bomber FM than usual bombload....other than that drop part with speed/angle/alt parameters to acivate torpedo shouldn't supossed to be problem (i think).

[Frogface]

Wow! I had no idea this was already in-game! So impressed that you can see the torpedo being loaded!
I imagine most of that tech was built in hope of going to the Pacific theatre after Kuban. Really hope we can get some more naval warfare since all the boat tech is so darn impressive yet underused! 

[[=PzG=]-Southernbear]

The reason we don't have them is we don't need them. Don't get me wrong I'd love to see them in but atm the largest ships we have in game are Destroyer Escorts or perhaps Destroyers which can be taken out just as easily with a 1000Ib or 500Kg bomb which is why the Dev's haven't focused it...I have a feeling we'd need perhaps a Mediterranean DLC (excluding a Pacific one) to give them a reason to add larger ships and by defacto, Torpedo 

 

Perhaps Normandy with the channel and all might also do this but I don't think its coming in the near future which is a shame because I'd love to load my Fw 190 A5 up with the U14 mod and drop a Torpedo with some mates flying in a squadron or as already stated in IL-2s ect

[FoxbatRU]

Yes, torpedoes would be interesting!
The only, for information, in real Il-2 could never carry a torpedo.

[Avimimus]

Torpedoes will be an improvement (someday). Honestly though, my priority would actually be to add lighter bomb-load options for some aircraft (good for historical accuracy and for performance)... I might post some info on this eventually.

[sevenless]

Clusterbombs, definitively.

 

 

[danielprates]

I would love to see torpedoes - we already have the planes for them, all it takes is a bit more modelling for the specific versions. However we would need much more development regarding everything else surrounding torpedo operations, viz, the SP careers, the proper AI for more complex torpedo attacks (both AI planes and ships), anyway .... the apropriate contours for torpedo plane operations. 

[Cleverviking]

Would love to see torpedoes in the game, it'd bring a new type of gameplay to the game for (I think at least) relatively little effort. There's also something really satisfying about tracking the torpedo going towards the ship and the ship slowly sinking as a result of one (or several) hit(s). (going on experience from playing stuff like Silent Hunter)

[Tyberan]

Torps would be great but what plane set can use them? A20, ju88, he111 h6?