As the Mossie is coming...

[Trooper117]

 

As the Mossie is coming to the game, I thought it might be time for a little light reading!

I enjoyed flying it in the old IL2... can't wait to see how this version comes out  

 

[Bremspropeller]

Must...resist...temptation...

[Blitzen]

The Airfix 1/24th Scale Mosquito kit wouldn’t be a bad place for a hands-on start...? ?

[Georgio]

Mossie should be an excellent add on, hopefully we'll get a few different variations; would be great to get some mission variety i.e. pathfinder, photo recce and precision skip bombing...?

[sevenless]

22 minutes ago, Georgio said:

Mossie should be an excellent add on, hopefully we'll get a few different variations; would be great to get some mission variety i.e. pathfinder, photo recce and precision skip bombing...?

 

I hope so. I need my "Cookie Monster". The Mk. XVI. Hopefully they get that beauty into the game.

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

[Lusekofte]

12 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

I hope so. I need my "Cookie Monster". The Mk. XVI. Hopefully they get that beauty into the game.

 

 

This would be the cheapest allied medium bomber to make only bomb aimer cockpit as extra. It will bring back big bombs to LW side too

[EAF19_Swoop]

Actually love the Mossie and want to get this sim just to fly her, I didn't actually like her in Il2, thought she was really heavy and sluggish. This is totally opposite to what I thought she'd fly like. I like the Osprey books and have them for the Spitfires, recommend any for the Mossie, Dave?

[Heliopause]

aaah the wooden wonder .....

 

[Zippy-do-dar]

 

[=621=Samikatz]

2 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

I hope so. I need my "Cookie Monster". The Mk. XVI. Hopefully they get that beauty into the game.

 

 

 

If this came with multicrew for the bombadier that would be amazing

[Voidhunger]

How fast is this model compared to late Bfg6 and FwA5 ?

[busdriver]

5 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

As the Mossie is coming to the game, I thought it might be time for a little light reading!

 

In addition to those you posted, here are a few more. 

 

 

But if you need a book that you can use as a door stop or wheel chock, there's Bowman's omnibus volume of almost 500 pages that has an expanded victory listing.

 

Edited January 3, 2020 by busdriver

[Habu]

Thank you for these titles. I have some, but i didn't know the last one of Busdriver.

Edited January 3, 2020 by Habu

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, EAF19_Swoop said:

Actually love the Mossie and want to get this sim just to fly her, I didn't actually like her in Il2, thought she was really heavy and sluggish. This is totally opposite to what I thought she'd fly like. I like the Osprey books and have them for the Spitfires, recommend any for the Mossie, Dave?

 

Hey there Swoop, been a long time since we chatted mate 

All those pictured above are good reads with lots of info on flying, tech details and first hand accounts!

[AndytotheD]

1 hour ago, Voidhunger said:

How fast is this model compared to late Bfg6 and FwA5 ?

Probably about 380ish maximum speed. Not bad, but not nearly as fast as the pure bomber variants, which had the benefit of two stage merlins and the resultant high-altitude performance.

[III/JG53Frankyboy]

well ,the Mk.IV did not have these two stage Merlins AFAIK

 

I would not need an extra bombarider station in game.....just Switch directly between pilot and bombsight !

 

5 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

I hope so. I need my "Cookie Monster". The Mk. XVI. Hopefully they get that beauty into the game.

 

 

nope, still a Mk.IV , just modified to carry thi 4000lb Cookie.

Edited January 3, 2020 by III/JG53Frankyboy

[Lusekofte]

25 minutes ago, III/JG53Frankyboy said:

Switch directly between pilot and bombsight !

If that is what it takes I go for it too. But I think it would be neat having a pit there. Miss it in the A 20 

[sevenless]

26 minutes ago, III/JG53Frankyboy said:

nope, still a Mk.IV , just modified to carry thi 4000lb Cookie.

 

Makes me curious. How can you tell the difference?

[busdriver]

5 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Makes me curious. How can you tell the difference?

 

The Mk XVI's Merlin 72 engine (1680 hp) nacelle has an extra air intake on the bottom, right where the propeller hub meets the nacelle. Picture to follow.

Edited January 3, 2020 by busdriver

[sevenless]

3 minutes ago, busdriver said:

 

The Mk XVI's Merlin 72 engine (1680 hp) nacelle has an extra air intake on the bottom, right where the propeller hub meets the nacelle. Picture to follow.

 

I see. You mean this one:

 

 

[busdriver]

3 minutes ago, sevenless said:

I see. You mean this one:

 

LOL...that was the picture I was going to post.  And the Merlin 72 has 6 exhaust stacks versus 5 on the MK. IV's engines.

Edited January 3, 2020 by busdriver

[sevenless]

Just now, busdriver said:

 

LOL...that was the picture I was going to post. 

I have another one:

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

3 hours ago, busdriver said:

But if you need a book that you can use as a door stop or wheel chock, there's Bowman's omnibus volume of almost 500 pages that has an expanded victory listing.

 

I was thinking about getting it.

Is it good or is it a combination of Bowman's other books?

[busdriver]

21 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

I was thinking about getting it.

Is it good or is it a combination of Bowman's other books?

 

It's a combination...here's my amazon review from 2010.

 

Mr Bowman is a prolific Mosquito and 2 Group RAF author. I have a dozen of his titles. There is so much content to recommend this latest. It really is a treasure for Mosquito fans. Each chapter has lots of first person narrative. There are lots of photographs, many I had not seen before. Most of these new photos were squadron "line up" photographs of pilots and navigators/observers. Interestingly, the first chapter, "Low Levellers and Shallow Raiders," happens to be a verbatim duplicate of the first chapter "Down Low," in Mr Bowman's Mosquito: Menacing the Reich published by Pen & Sword. Likewise chapter eleven, "Mosquitopanik," is essentially the same as chapter six, "Mosquitopanik," from Bowman's book Mosquitopanik also published by Pen & Sword. I appreciate the Mosquito kill chronology, updated from Martin Sharp's & Michael Bowyer's excellent 1995 edition of Mosquito published by Crecy. There is a nice appendix covering squadron assignments. I wish there was a chronology of Mossie squadrons by command (Bomber, Coastal, Fighter) as each converted or became operational.

The only reason this is not a five star review is the publisher's workmanship, the binding. This hefty book is 480 pages long and poorly bound. The heavy, glossy paper is typical of Schiffer books. Perhaps it is more accurate to say the book is too heavy for the binding. I discarded my amazon receipt before experiencing structural failure of the spine and endsheet peeling away from the back cover. My abuse? Merely placing the book on a table and opening it in the middle. As a comparison, Boiten & Bowman's Battles with the Nachtjagd (also by Schiffer) is the same thickness, but only 348 pages (same format size) and printed on lighter non-glossy paper. It suffers none of the binding defects of Achtung Moskito! You won't be taking this to read on an airplane, it's just too darn heavy, and fragile.

[Bremspropeller]

Looks like I had exactly this review in my mind, bd! Seems like the world/ the internet is a small place after all ?

I can second that the heftier Schiffer books need some tender handling...

 

Just ordered it at a different outfit than amazon, though - together with "Ken's Men against the empire Vol 2" of the "Eagles over the Pacific" series.

Which by the way is awesome (I already have Vols 1 thru 4).

Edited January 4, 2020 by Bremspropeller

[busdriver]

2 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

Just ordered it at a different outfit than amazon, though - together with "Ken's Men against the empire Vol 2" of the "Eagles over the Pacific" series.

Which by the way is awesome (I already have Vols 1 thru 4).

 

Happy New Year to me...more books to add to my library. 

[Feathered_IV]

I can recommend Terror in the Starboard seat if you would like a first-hand account of flying in a night intruder Mosquito.

Dave McIntosh was a navigator and avowed coward.  He had the misfortune to be paired with one of the most gung-ho kill-em-all pilots in the group.  Many of the sorties went like:

 

Pilot:  Lets find an enemy airfield and see if we can stir them up a bit.

Dave:  Oooh!  Sounds dicey...

 

Some time later:

 

Pilot: There's the airfield.

Dave:  Gosh!  Is that the time?

Pilot:  Get ready.

Dave: Only four and a half hours until dawn you know...

Pilot: I see a light!  Attacking.

Dave:  Ooh!

 

 

 

[unreasonable]

There is also this one, less stories and a fair bit of technical detail for those that like that sort of thing not that it is likely to include anything busdriver does not already have! 256 pages inc. index.

 

[ADorante]

Here's a little light reading on a serious topic:

https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN191460

https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/MAY191310

[cardboard_killer]

Nice lasers. Or is it just happy to see me?

[Heliopause]

[Dakpilot]

Am very much looking forward to introduction of Mosquito 

 

I grew up watching 633 Squadron almost every time I visited my Godfather (he was 2nd unit director) so I might be a bit biased/indoctrinated ?

 

Also very happy it will be part of BoN rather than tacked on as a BoBP collecter plane where it would have not shined as bright as it should, up against hordes of very late war Lufties 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

 

 

[unreasonable]

Great film. I can even forgive the casting of the Yank lead actor, Cliff Robertson, since he actually owned and flew a Spitfire. 

 

Here is the theme music in MP3....633 squadron theme.zip

[Retnek]

On 1/4/2020 at 12:14 AM, sevenless said:

I have another one:

 

 

Looking at the B XVI the broad paddel-props are prominent, too. Haven't found any trustworthy details on this in my incomplete Mossie-literature. Were those broad blades a general feature of the later versions until the introduction of the 4-blades? Or just a feature of the high-alt-version?

[Chief_Mouser]

1 hour ago, JG4_Retnek said:

Looking at the B XVI the broad paddel-props are prominent, too. Haven't found any trustworthy details on this in my incomplete Mossie-literature. Were those broad blades a general feature of the later versions until the introduction of the 4-blades? Or just a feature of the high-alt-version?

 

Found this thread https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/29040-mosquito-mk-vi-props/ on a modeller's forum. Some detailed info about the paddle props and what they were for.

[Retnek]

Very well, thx! Distilled keywords and fed Google with something like "Mosquito de Havilland Hydromatic Paddle Blade Propellers". Now the topic gets contours, but becomes a bit more bulky:

 

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?13454-Paddle-Blade-Propellers-on-the-Lancaster-when-were-they-introduced&s=92f8db17b7b082595fa01d275bbf66a9&p=79303#post79303

 

First sentence: "I think that the linking of Packard Merlins with paddle blade props is a red herring. ..."

 

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

Mosquito is sure a sleek plane. Will be fun to fly it. 

[Bremspropeller]

Is it too early wondering if that windscreen-wiper will work?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Looking forward to her, but I can't imagine her to be all that amazing to fly. Being all Wooden means that most of the Work you do on the Control Column when at High Speed goes into deforming Wood and stretching Canvas before you get any appreciable Effect. And at low Speed she will likely be more difficult to handle than the Pe-2, which is a Challenge already for quite a Number of Pilots (even I sometimes fuck up a Landing).

And with Max Dive Speeds that are matched by most of the Russian Aircraft, if not worse, the Mosquito is a bit of a Sitting Duck.

 

But then I also think, that once loaded down with Bombs the Arado and Mossie will be in the same Performance League, while lacking Defensive Gunners.