343KKT_Kintaro Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 2:01 PM, CDRSEABEE said: Wolfpack345 on Youtube. He also said winter 2021 it was coming. Not sure where he is getting his info from. Well, that was one week ago. Now the official source is there. On 8/15/2020 at 2:11 AM, RangerC9 said: Guys, I hate for break in here but I am back after 6 years and frustrated to find on Steam a listing of forum, or seach for them to get to IL-2 Sturmovik Form from where I get these missives by sub. I am trying to connect to a community that is engaged in the IL-2 efforts to read and learn. Please... RangerC9 I don't get it Ranger... do you possess "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover BLITZ"? Because you will need it if you want to join the IL-2 community you heard about on Steam. Are you even aware that there are three different generations in the IL-2 series of games? We are on the forum for the second generation ("IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover", also known as the "Dover series"). In a nutshell: 1st generation as of 2001: "IL-2 Sturmovik", nowadays better known under the name "IL-2: 1946". 2nd generation as of 2011: "IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover", nowadays upgraded up the BLITZ version, also known as the "Dover series". 3rd generation as of 2013: "IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles", also known as the "Great Battles series". 2
RangerC9 Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 thanks for prompt reply, I do have CLOD-B and since my last found I could sign in here through Steam. Likewise, I have access to all the Forums. My Account and Bio have been updated. I will be buying Kuban, as it has VR support and to reaquait with the A-20. Then I will look for a squad. Thanks for the updated naming...Ranger Oops, Bodenplatte is the only VR supported in the series I can see. Is that true? That will cause some thought.
343KKT_Kintaro Posted August 16, 2020 Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, RangerC9 said: thanks for prompt reply, I do have CLOD-B and since my last found I could sign in here through Steam. Likewise, I have access to all the Forums. My Account and Bio have been updated. I will be buying Kuban, as it has VR support and to reaquait with the A-20. Then I will look for a squad. Thanks for the updated naming...Ranger Oops, Bodenplatte is the only VR supported in the series I can see. Is that true? That will cause some thought. Hi Ranger, To clearly know if whether or not an "IL-2" game is VR supported, please go to the official site ( https://il2sturmovik.com/ ) and click on "store". On the right hand side of the "store" page, two rectangles are there, one is red the other is blue. 1) All games in the red rectangle belong to the "Great Battles" series. All of them in this series are VR supported and standalone games. Standalone games... this means that you can purchase whatever game in the red list, it will work as a free independent game, not needing any other game in the list. All games in this series deal with WWII aviation except two of them : in "Tank Crew" you'll lead a WWII tank into battle. In "Flying Circus Vol.1" you'll fly WWI aircraft (1914-1918). 2) All games in the blue rectangle belong to the "Dover" series. They are not yet VR supported but sooner or later they will be, most likely next year before the end of 2021. In addition, it is a series of games based on a basic core engine. The so mentioned basic core engine is the first game in the list, BLITZ. It is a standalone, obviously, and you already possesses it. You were right when buying BLITZ, trust me, it is a fantastic simulator, very accurate, very realistic. It is set during the Battle of Britain (Summer of 1940). Feel free to purchase the add-on "Desert Wings - Tobruk", set in North Africa in the area of Libya and Egypt where in 1941-1942 the British RAF (based in Egypt, East of the map) was facing Italian aviation (based in Italian Libya, West of the map). German Luftwaffe joined the Italians and fought for the axis forces. Just hope the above was clear enough to you.
RangerC9 Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 Kintaro. Your time to clarify is appreciated. Key was the coloring of the product listings as, I did not know this. This and the last posting sends me on the way with Kuban in VR with the Rift S. Moreover, I am comfortable to spend here now. VR was a must transition from Track IR. Thank you, Ranger.
kraut1 Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 On tuesday I purchased / installed Desert Wings. As a temporary solution until VR is implemented I use my Rift-S with VorpX and tracking with Opentrack. Real VR is of course not possible (no stereoscopic vision). But with the headset I have the impression to be in the cockpit. -other planes, vehicles are looking well -due to lack of stereoscopic vision the cockpit elements and the landscape are let me say acceptable. -after a mission is finished (escape key pressed) you have to pull off the headset, the mouse icon is invisible now and without seeing the mouse you have to save the mission results (in a campaign) and quit the simulation. -you can use the headset only for flying a mission, for all other tasks e g. settings, mission builder I use the monitor. -while flying it is possible to operate the interactive cockpit switches, levers. -I recommend this procedure only those who already have Desert Wings and are already familar with VorpX, because I can not guarantee that it works on other computers. Best Regards 1
Charlo-VR Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 The above is similar to how I use VorpX to fly Star Citizen in VR. For Star Citizen it provides VR that is much less comfortable than the VR we enjoy in Great Battles, but doable, I imagine similar to what kraut1 one describes with Tobruk. It's good to know this is an option for a game I bought but was planning to wait until VR is supported before I fly it.
343KKT_Kintaro Posted August 20, 2020 Posted August 20, 2020 Just one precision: your pseudo VR in Tobruk... should work with BLITZ on the Channel map all the same... nope?
kraut1 Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) On 8/20/2020 at 10:20 PM, 343KKT_Kintaro said: Just one precision: your pseudo VR in Tobruk... should work with BLITZ on the Channel map all the same... nope? Yes, before I decided to buy desert wings I worked out this with Blitz and flew some of quick missions on the Channel Map. Updated 2020-08-23: preliminary VR Settings added Blitz - Desert Wings preliminary VR settings V1.zip Edited August 23, 2020 by kraut1 additional data added 1 1
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) On 10/20/2020 at 4:42 PM, dis80786 said: +1 for the implementation of VR +2, I can't go back even with my meager Rift S. Already own Blitz and Tobruk though (both good). Edited January 6, 2021 by Drewm3i
343KKT_Kintaro Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 Hey chaps, not to be rude, but VR development in this game will not go faster because you add your +3s, +4s, +5s or whatever pluses you add to a discussion thread on the forum... Leave it with the devs, VR in the Dover series will be ready when it will be ready, not before.
unlikely_spider Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said: Hey chaps, not to be rude, but VR development in this game will not go faster because you add your +3s, +4s, +5s or whatever pluses you add to a discussion thread on the forum... Leave it with the devs, VR in the Dover series will be ready when it will be ready, not before. +1
Dagwoodyt Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, unlikely_spider said: +1 +2 Blitz is already at the pinnacle of CFS's. Why gild the lily? Keep it pure! Bring on the FW190's.
kraut1 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Hi, For Information: I have new simplified settings released, tracking only with VorpX, smoother, better head movement / visibility backwards. Best regards 1
=420=Syphen Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 1:08 PM, 343KKT_Kintaro said: Hey chaps, not to be rude, but VR development in this game will not go faster because you add your +3s, +4s, +5s or whatever pluses you add to a discussion thread on the forum... Leave it with the devs, VR in the Dover series will be ready when it will be ready, not before. No it won't. It's just a way the community can show support and anticipation. Telling people to not do that doesn't help either. Considering many die hard CLoD fliers think VR is a waste of time "because only 1% of gamers on steam even have VR" is common rhetoric around here, I don't see any issue with people being excited for VR to come to Tobruk / CloD. 3 3
Dagwoodyt Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) I think War Thunder was providing Oculus Rift support in Spring of 2016. TFS has yet to void the VR "sales success" contingency status of the August 14, 2020 development roadmap. The absence of VR support is going to generate increasing heat the longer this ambiguity persists. It is not that no one was aware that lack of VR support would be an issue. The piecemeal DW-T rollout was an explicit strategy. The quick release of the MSFS2020 VR update is a definite "uh-oh" development. The one new feature that could have been touted at rollout would have been trueSKY, yet fully six months post release we have yet to see video demo of the "alpha" stage of trueSKY implementation. Welcoming of discussion is the only way forward. Edited January 11, 2021 by Dagwoodyt 1 1
Mewt Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 7:12 PM, =420=Syphen said: No it won't. It's just a way the community can show support and anticipation. Telling people to not do that doesn't help either. Considering many die hard CLoD fliers think VR is a waste of time "because only 1% of gamers on steam even have VR" is common rhetoric around here, I don't see any issue with people being excited for VR to come to Tobruk / CloD. Absolutely this. It's quite simple: If Tobruk had VR support I would buy it.
Dagwoodyt Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 At this point it looks like market forces are dictating implementation of VR for Blitz simply as a survival mechanism. A side benefit would likely be upgrades to the UI needed to support VR. A caveat is that launcher crashes, annoying in 2D, would be intolerable in the VR environment.
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said: At this point it looks like market forces are dictating implementation of VR for Blitz simply as a survival mechanism. A side benefit would likely be upgrades to the UI needed to support VR. A caveat is that launcher crashes, annoying in 2D, would be intolerable in the VR environment. Just to add to this, CLoD is a diamond: rough on the edges, but the actual game sans a tolerable amount of bugs is actually very good. What it is missing is the "sex sells" aspect: the UI and menus are so dated and this turns people off, VR is the future and CLoD still doesn't have it in 2021 when even laptop users like myself can run it, the campaign system is antiquated as well, etc. The underlying game engine is very good however (much more capable than Great Battles in terms of recreating large air battles). The damage models are exquisitely detailed as are the projectiles. I really wish CLoD could have been fixed sooner and not abandoned by 1C because in many ways it is still more "next-gen" than GB. The main thing GB does better are flight models, graphics, and ground crash physics IMO. The smoke and explosion effects (as well as the scale of battles in CLoD/Tobruk) makes "Great Battles" feel more like IL-2: Small Skirmishes. 7 hours ago, Mewt said: Absolutely this. It's quite simple: If Tobruk had VR support I would buy it. I own Tobruk but haven't played it since I got a VR headset. It is quite good I must say though. Team Fusion is good at what they do...but they need more manpower and resources. They really need to convince what's left of the 1946 modding community to join them... Edited February 12, 2021 by =AW=drewm3i-VR 2
=WoVi=cercataa Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 UI and menus ... who cares !!!!!? It's almost here VR !!!!!!! YES !!!!! btw, do you know if CLoD has UDP telemetry ? I'm working on bHaptcis support for MSFS, and it would be nice to have it here too. Feeling your belly vibrate when there are many Gs is awesome, not only funny but very informative !!!!
SIA_Target Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 It's almost here VR !!!!!!! YES !!!!! Some inside information perhaps? 2
Dagwoodyt Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Hopefully major news on Visual Update status will be planned in celebration of the third anniversary of Blitz 5.0/DW-T's release.? Edited April 28, 2023 by Dagwoodyt 1
Dagwoodyt Posted August 26, 2024 Posted August 26, 2024 (edited) The need for compromise: Given their more than four year effort, the responsible course of action is for TFS to provide a date certain for making their "free" Visual Update/VR package available to all customers. In event of TFS' failure to deliver, the beta version should become an "as is" Steam option, no strings attached. My guess is that the reputational damage accruing from doggedly refusing unrestricted access now outweighs any negatives incurred from a suboptimal public beta and might well be unrecoverable. Making a flawed beta available on Steam at least demonstrates that TFS keeps its' word. Edited August 26, 2024 by Dagwoodyt 1
HazMatt Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 I'd be interested in: join the VR beta any time you want but I have no idea how to prove "proof of ownership of a VR headset" I only have 3... lolz
BOO Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 6 hours ago, HazMatt said: I'd be interested in: join the VR beta any time you want but I have no idea how to prove "proof of ownership of a VR headset" I only have 3... lolz PM Buzzsaw.
GBHGaryBucey Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 8 hours ago, BOO said: PM Buzzsaw. I actually PM'd Buzzsaw a week ago now but sadly no response so far.
BOO Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 2 hours ago, GBHGaryBucey said: I actually PM'd Buzzsaw a week ago now but sadly no response so far. Id give it a couple of weeks and send another. I dunno if TFS are actively looking for VR testers still or if it goes in waves.
Dagwoodyt Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) Two Years Ago Today: Three months ago: Edited August 28, 2024 by Dagwoodyt
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