MasserME262 Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 Hello all. Few days ago I finally got rudder pedals. They are not from Saitek or CH, they are made by hand by someone who makes sim parts here. The thing is, I think is not calibrated, and I dont know how to do it in-game. Following, I post some screenshots so you see what's my problem: The first problem comes here; Im not pressing anything. The pedals are "neutral", this would be the "centered position". As you can see, its not totally centered, and the plane would receive some left rudder input. Here, I'm pressing the left rudder pedal completely, and the input is OK. The second problem comes here: I'm pressing the right rudder completely, but since is not calibrated, the sim thinks I'm not pressing it completely. As you can see, I was changing the sensitivity and dead zones, so that when I press the right pedal "all the way down", the game "translates" that input to actually a "stronger" input, I mean, I try to compensate the problem with this (you can see that in the third picture, the "real input" vs the "plane output". But still, I cant make the "plane output" to be correct). The pedals didn't come with any software to calibrate it or anything, so I'm lost on about what to do. Any tips will be welcome. Thanks in advance!.
ADorante Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Not a tip, but my pedals share some behavioral antics of yours. This is what I wrote in the suggestions thread (and the devs at least are aware of my problem as I found out when talking to them in person at gamescom): based on my original question: Edited December 15, 2019 by ADorante
Cynic_Al Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, ME-BFMasserME262 said: The pedals didn't come with any software to calibrate it or anything, so I'm lost on about what to do. Any tips will be welcome. Thanks in advance!. You calibrate them using the standard Windows calibration utility. Start Control Panel and select Devices and Printers. Your pedals should show as something like 'Generic Gaming Device'. If they aren't shown, select 'Add a device'. Once displayed, right click on their icon and select 'Game controller settings'. In the next dialogue, select your device and click the 'Properties' button. Click the 'Settings' tab and follow calibration instructions. This procedure may vary between Windows versions.
Lusekofte Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said: You calibrate them using the standard Windows calibration utility. Start Control Panel and select Devices and Printers. Your pedals should show as something like 'Generic Gaming Device'. If they aren't shown, select 'Add a device'. Once displayed, right click on their icon and select 'Game controller settings'. In the next dialogue, select your device and click the 'Properties' button. Click the 'Settings' tab and follow calibration instructions. This procedure may vary between Windows versions. This. Use windows calibration first then set dead zone in game
MasserME262 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) EDIT: finally I could! I tried the windows software once again and this time it worked just fine! Now the game detects the pedals correctly and it works great. Thanks! I just tried it but it was a complete mess. I mean, I dont understand the software, it asks me for multiple axis to be calibrated, but I guess I need only Z axis? The final results were even worse actually. I feel kinda stupid not knowing how to use the Windows software I admit, but I find it quite difficult for to understand Edited December 15, 2019 by ME-BFMasserME262
Cynic_Al Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: This. Use windows calibration first then set dead zone in game Why would you want a deadzone?
MasserME262 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Cynic_Al said: Why would you want a deadzone? I like the deadzone (edges) thing, so I don't need to pull the real pedals completely to get the output I want. Or at least that's what I use deadzone for
Cynic_Al Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, ME-BFMasserME262 said: I like the deadzone (edges) thing, so I don't need to pull the real pedals completely to get the output I want. Or at least that's what I use deadzone for OK I call that something else; I thought you meant a central deadzone.
cardboard_killer Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Cynic_Al said: I thought you meant a central deadzone. A central deadzone can be useful with peddles if the peddles don't have a good centered position you can reach by feel easily. At least, so I've read.
Lusekofte Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 I got good Crosswind rudder pedals, they are sensitive so I like to have a middle dead zone so I do not use rudders un intentional.
Cynic_Al Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I got good Crosswind rudder pedals, they are sensitive so I like to have a middle dead zone so I do not use rudders un intentional. The snag there is that precision aiming often involves moving the rudder around its central position. With that area unresponsive, accuracy must be compromised.
cardboard_killer Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Apparently the trade off is worth it to some players.
Lusekofte Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Cynic_Al said: The snag there is that precision aiming often involves moving the rudder around its central position. With that area unresponsive, accuracy must be compromised. No accuracy is the same. it is like a twist handle of a joystick. If you not deliberate use the rudder , but fo you will correct with your stick. This will lead to you actually shoot a bit sideways. In order to get a accurate shot your plane need to be trimmed to fly straight and rudders are fir adjusting if you use them while shooting you are. Correcting not aiming
Sokol1 Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Usually pedal manufacturer furnish a calibration tool. If not use DView for calibration, see here in Derek Spare Designs: https://derekspearedesigns.com/technical-guide.html As last resource use Window Game Controllers, that is a obsolete tool from Win95 era, more hinder than help.
Cynic_Al Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 19 hours ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: No accuracy is the same. it is like a twist handle of a joystick. If you not deliberate use the rudder , but fo you will correct with your stick. This will lead to you actually shoot a bit sideways. In order to get a accurate shot your plane need to be trimmed to fly straight and rudders are fir adjusting if you use them while shooting you are. Correcting not aiming There seems to a dialectical issue here, so we'll have to leave it.
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