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Ailerons seem to fall off too easily in ground loops.


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I just got IL-2, and I'm still in the phase of learning where I ground loop a lot. I've noticed that any wing contact with the ground seems to remove an aileron, and that doesn't seem to be the case with real planes.

 

For example:

 

Here's a T-6 ground loop which results in wing and aileron damage:

 

 

A PT 17 with minor wing damage.

 

 

 

This Cessna 180 looped hard enough to bend the wing, but the aileron stayed attached.

 

https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2017/04/alaska-is-hard-on-airplanes.html

 

Another Cessna with a bent wing.

 

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2015/04/cessna-195-n1558d-incident-occurred.html

 

An Avid Flyer C Heavy Hauler with a flapperon 2/5 detached:

 

 

An Fw 190 A-8 with collapsed landing gear and splintered prop. Aileron appears to still be attached.

 

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/175038

 

I couldn't find a single incident where a ground loop fully removed an aileron.

 

I know damage model during ground handling isn't all that important, but it would be nice to see this improved a bit, unless there's some reason to think that warbirds had substantially more fragile control surfaces.

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LLv34_Flanker
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S! 

 

Graphical presentation does not portray the real damage. Or this is the picture I have got from what info is floating around. 

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