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Anyone managed to land the PE-2 yet?


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1./KG4_Blackwolf
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I can land it..but it ends up in eight or nine pieces, does that count?  :biggrin:

ShamrockOneFive
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I can land it..but it ends up in eight or nine pieces, does that count?  :biggrin:

 

As they say... any landing you can walk away from :)

Feathered_IV
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Getting the hang of it now.  Managed a couple of landings on one engine too.  The trick seems to be touching down on the main undercarriage only and putting in some forward elevator to counteract the bounce.

MarcoRossolini
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I've landed it... just... I'd had it perfectly lined up when I made the mistake of cutting throttle... I hit the runway, bounce, hit full power to give me steerage, hit again and again and end up spinning around on the runway... But I made it... in one piece. So not bad methinks.

 

What I did up until that point to my mind is perfect.

 

I had it to 30% on the flaps or so, I'd kept it at about 180 kph. I lined it up well before hand and let her fly herself slowly in... Just let her drop when she feels like it. The trick is lining it up for her so she's dropping when you need it, but raising throttle a little higher usually does the job nicely.

Edited by MarcoRossolini
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I prefer full flaps 160-170km/h 'controlled crash' landings, I'll sharpen them up when I always hit and survive my kamikaze 15 meter tank bombings with the 10x100kg bombs. Absolutely the most fun plane right now! :salute:

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I had my first chance to fly the Peshka today. Awesome plane to fly and an extremely precise platform for gunnery and bombing.

 

But to my astonishment, I had absolutely no trouble landing it what so ever!

 

My first attempt was even made off field with full flaps and a damaged engine. The Pe-2 touched down completely smoothly with only the tiniest little bounce and came to a stop in the snow with only a hint of ground looping. I have yet to completely crash it on landing.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Hi

 

3 PE-2 on a random multiplayer Raid, with double Landing :) at 2:14 min.

 

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Finally had a chance to dink around with the sim today, first time out since the Pe-2 and G2 were released.


 


The Pe-2 was of interest to me after members here reported landing difficulty.


 


I found that the aircraft begins to buffet at 1G at 109 mph clean, using a 1 mph per second decel rate. With partial flaps, about 4 seconds worth of extension, it buffets at 99 mph, and with full flap extension, 85 mph. This was with 30-40% fuel and no orndance aboard.


 


Using partial flaps, an approach speed of 135-140 mph (205 kph, a little above the tick mark on the tiny ASI) worked fine, but required the technique used when landing heavy, swept winged jets at high flap settings. I found that carrying the approach power into a gentle flare, then reducing just a few percent after the descent rate had been arrested let the aircraft settle in wihout bouncing. If you flare aggressively, you may feel a little buffet at partial flaps.


 


Full flaps is an interesting conundrum. The drag in this config is so high that it is like landing an SBD with the dive brakes extended. The aircraft declerates so rapidly during even a gentle flare that I found myself actually adding power to limit the decel rate to something manageable. Easing the power as described above resulted in too much decel rate, the aircraft dropping in and usually bouncing.


 


A bounce ususally resulted in a rapid increase in pitch attitude, a corresponding increase in alpha, and if pronounced enough, a lateral roll off and moderate buffet. I think this is the realm that is causing members problems. I don't recommend full flap landings, although it can be done with careful approach speeds (105mph) and disciplined throttle control during the round out.


 


Also of note was that the landing gear didn't appear to possess any parastic drag when extended. It did cause a mild pitch down, but no perceptible deceleration.


 


The partial flap technique works well when landing with an engine failed, including employing the same, minute power reduction during the flare. Could be that the reduced drag of a stopped prop is modeled.


 


I find the Pe-2 has nice visibility in the landing pattern and is interesting to fly. I found myself usually placing the end of the runway in the bottom of the gunsight disk. The airplane is a bit of a dog, but very stable, and so different that it is quite fun. Turning on the cockpit lights helps with guage visibility, but forget about actually seeing the compass. Just like a real airplane, the lighting on it sucks!


 


Hope this helps!


 


This would all be easier if these airplanes had proper tail hooks!


 


http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/6301-landing-pe-2-and-surviving/


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