Flying Circus or Tank Crew ?

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

Hi All, Have been thinking of treating myself for Christmas, but for now only one of the above !  so from experience which would you recommend, I do realize that its a case of chalk and cheese.

 

           So can I expect FC to be something like RoF or better ?   and I did dabble with the odd tank when they were first introduced but I should imagine that its moved on since than.

 

Cheers

[Avimimus]

It is easier to hit enemy pilots in FC, the terrain is quite a bit better, the controls feel a bit better (less configuration options though). The content is pretty similar to Rise of Flight and we've yet to see a big revolution in AI that'd really help it.

 

I don't have TC... but it should be quite a bit more impressive then the free demo tanks.... more detailed modelling, missions with brighter enemy AI tanks, lots of special effects, more varied tanks to experience...

 

So if you have RoF - I might go with TC...?

 

That said, I did the opposite - I have RoF and I pre-ordered FC (because I love WWI aircraft), but I haven't ordered TC yet... If you are rich... well, get all of them then ?

[Dakpilot]

Put up a picture of a Panther/Sherman and a Camel/Fokker on your screen 

 

Which one do your eyes gravitate to... 

 

Press relevant buy button 

 

?

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[Enceladus828]

Get Tank Crew! Stick with Rise of Flight

[Voidhunger]

FC needs more planes, career and AI improvements to be fun, but right now you can at least play with PWCG.

 

I like WW2 tanks and I want they succeede with the TC, I really do, but now TC is still at the begining. Also there is nothing to do right now. Scripted campaign is quickly finished and if you dont like MP like me, you are stuck with 3 or 4 missions playing again and again.

 

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

Thanks all for the info

[Zeev]

Tank Crew:
1. Very good models, I enjoyed playing with every tank even in the quick "attack that village" mission.
2. Sherman is too OP, while T34 is so weak. I just do not get it - with T34 you can get 2 hits and your tank gets out of control and blows, while with Sherman I can clear all the enemy village and get like 10 hits and there is no damage at all.

3. Campaigns, while at first look immersive, at least the one I have player with Soviets, have radio scripted voices, but the overall design is not so good and at times its unclear if its a suicide mission or not (most of the times you will be killed).

4. QMB is not so interesting, most of the targets are moving and you have to race to catch them.

5. Controls. OMG. You have to use third party program like Joy To Key to rotate that turret.

 

Flying Circus:

1. The QMB missions are fun.

2. The control of the planes are easy and makes the dog fights even greater than in WWII

3. With some planes I was not able to even take off. Is it a bug or just me?

4. Thanks to the community there is already a decent mission pack from Motherbrain with at least 10 scripted missions.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Zeev

[TWC_Ace]

Tank crew because you dont need to worry about stutters.

[Feathered_IV]

Tank Crew gameplay will particularly rely on a good command system, which may or may not eventuate.  It will also depend on handcrafted missions, so your replay value is going to be limited.

 

Flying Circus has good enough AI to keep you occupied now.  Plus a promising online environment and Pat Wilson's campaign generator to keep you going.

 

I would say go with FC for Christmas.  Then get yourself Tank Crew next year for your birthday. 

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

Thanks Feathered, I'm leaning more towards FC and that's just because good old Pat Wilson has become involved .

[Missionbug]

I have both, however, I have really not delved deep enough into them to decide what/if I could recommend to anyone yet, sorry.

 

You have to ask yourself what is your primary interest, aircraft or tanks,  go with that answer I guess.

 

My own interest is WWII aviation which is why I bought into the Battles series to start with, F.C. I bought to see how it developed compared to R.O.F., T.C. because it looked like it might be good as it developed, I had the money at the time so all that was put up for pre-order I got and it all supports the primary series anyway whatever happens as any kind of improvement in one usually goes to all.

 

Whatever deficiencies F.C. has by not having any career at the moment Pat's campaign generator should sort out, it did for Bodenplatte before full release so in that respect F.C. does have a slight advantage and there has been a folder full of missions made by a community member to go at just to wet your appetite.

 

T.C. does have a scripted campaign for each side and again community made missions.

 

I know, I am waffling again, shut up Pete I hear you say.

 

Buy one and ask for the other as a Christmas present from the family.

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[FTC_Snowy]

I’m really enjoying FC and Pat Wilson’s PWCG adds nicely to it. If it is a choice of one or the other today I’d go with FC and get TC later on. 

[Pict]

Having both I would tend to agree with the advice that Feathered gave you and add a couple of considerations.

 

As mentioned already TC is in development and it's control bindings are not compatible with the aircraft, but are still inter linked with them. This needs to be addressed I think as swapping from tanks to planes is cumbersome and clunky...hopefully until they get it separated out. Until then like others I've resorted to using JoyToKey, which shouldn't really be necessary.

 

Other thing is the map in TC, due to it's fantastic high level of detail, is heavy on computer resources, so if you don't have a faster rig, like me...

 

Edit., Almost forgot, to be the Tank Commander in TC you're obliged to use lower realism settings like autopilot and the HUD becomes a necessary evil. Which in turn kills compatibility with the rest of BOX at least for me and while I hope they find a way around this I'm not planning to hold my breath.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Pict
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[BlitzPig_EL]

The BlitzPigs have been flying a lot of FC lately.  I host coops that I generate with SYN_Vander's excellent third party tool.  We actually are somewhat surprised how much we have come to enjoy flying the old kites.  It has been fun discovering the intricacies of the different aircraft, and how often we arrive at a favorite that was the furthest thing from our initial expectation.  I never would have expected the Pfalz D III to be my favorite Central Powers bird, but it's pilot friendly characteristics make it a joy to fly, even with it's speed deficit compared to the Entente kites.  And then there is the Bristol.  The do all, be all, jack of all trades, master of most, that fits the BlitzPigs penchant for making life hard for the boots on the ground.  Lovely machine.

 

The swirling dogfights that often develop are very challenging, and also quite fun.   Hard to beat it actually.

 

Now if it only had the Neiuport 28 and Sopwith Tripe, I'd be in heaven.

[Feathered_IV]

15 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

 

The swirling dogfights that often develop are very challenging, and also quite fun.   Hard to beat it actually.

 

Thats what I’m finding too.  Often I’m following an enemy so closely that as I peer at them through the gunsight, it feels like I don’t need a machine gun, but rather a grappling hook.  

[Lusekofte]

I have both. But I really dont like the tank thingy. 
it is for me just a heap of messy chaotic battleground. One thing do FC goingfor itself is a incredible helpful crowd in the servers. Totally different from some other servers, polite chat and all that all the time

[Mac_Messer]

Easy answer for TC - if you`re not especially keen on using them beauties as your favorite machines then you will not get more from TC. At least as of now, cuz it`s still WiP!

Edited November 22, 2019 by Mac_Messer

[40plus]

Tank crew.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

FC !

[Redwo1f]

Ask yourself this - is there enough there right now in FC to keep you entertained for the style of game you like to play? ...we don't have a confirmation that there will even be a FC2 (only a desire if... ), so that may be all you are getting with FC. If you are a SP player and into campaigns, it is really lacking aircraft to properly flesh it out (two-seaters in particular), though Patrick Wilson is doing what he can with what is available. Personally, I would wait and see - it's a gamble otherwise, but it's your choice.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Redwo1f

[ZachariasX]

FC!

[ShamrockOneFive]

I've just published my full review of Flying Circus (a similar review of Tank Crew won't come until the title is finished) which you can read in full here: https://stormbirds.blog/2019/11/18/flying-circus-vol-1-full-review/

 

The short version of it is that Flying Circus is a lot of fun, it does WWI bi-plane combat alongside WWII combat extremely well (i.e. they coexist in the same sim and you can have great experiences with both), and the multiplayer events are great. It lacks single player content out of the box but you can use Pat Wilson's PWCG or SYN_Vander's Easy Mission Creator to help fill that gap and I expect that more single player content that is both developer and community driven will eventually come. It's just not here yet.

 

I come back to the fun part with FC. It is fun and it's a great experience that diverges from the WWII experience while still being very familiar and drawing on the strengths of the IL-2 series.

[Jade_Monkey]

I like both but I spend more time in FC, the feeling of flight is really outstanding.

 

Thank journeys are long and slow, only to get knocked out in the first round, can be a bit frustrating when you have limited time to play. However, I love the feel of being inside the tank in VR!

[Gretsch_Man]

12 hours ago, taffy2jeffmorgan said:

Thanks Feathered, I'm leaning more towards FC and that's just because good old Pat Wilson has become involved .

One thing that hasn't been metioned so far is VR. Well I don't know whether you have VR, but if you do, then you really can't compare FC with RoF.

 

I have both FC and TC and I love them both, though I have to admit that righgt now I spend more time in FC.

[MasserME262]

On 11/22/2019 at 2:43 AM, Dakpilot said:

Put up a picture of a Panther/Sherman and a Camel/Fokker on your screen 

 

Which one do your eyes gravitate to... 

 

Press relevant buy button 

 

?

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

that doesn't help me at all, my eyes gravitate all of them equally

 

I would say FC. Because the tank game is for that, destroying enemies.

But the flight game... its different, you can take off, fly 30 minutes doing maneuvers, and go back your base for landing and it gonna be fun, I usually do it in BoX. Because we have a stick, pedals or whatever, at home, that makes it immersive and fun to fly.

 

But with the tanks... you press some keys in a keyboard to move the tank, no take off, flying or landing. Just moving around pressing 4 keys in the keyboard and that's it.

 

For me, tank games must be arcade or not exist at all, a tank simulator can look great but if you move the turret with a mouse.... that's an immersion killer for me, and the most important reason why I don't care about any tank sim.