Aap Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, zdog0331 said: Anyway i think the ways COOP can be revitalized would be to either A add a mode where you and your buddy can fly in the career mode. Check out PWCG for BoS.
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said: What’s the missing feature? Some kind of joke? It's not about a feature, its about the UI and the central hub for all virtual pilots. Teamspeak has and is none of it. Teamspeak is a tool for verbal communication running next to a game, and not a fundamental cornerstone to organize people for a game. If you want to use TS for the same purpose, you would have to force every player to use the same TS server. How can someone have little to no understanding where the difference is here? Thank you for your nonsense. Horridoh Edited November 22, 2019 by HBB*Hunger 1
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, HBB*Hunger said: If you want to use TS for the same purpose, you would have to force every player to use the same TS server. How can someone have little to no understanding where the difference is here? I’m not the one having problems understanding this. When you used Hyperlobby it was the equivalent of everyone using the same Teamspeak server. Why do you have so much trouble understanding that?
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 - because - Quote you would have to force every player to use the same TS server and exactly this is why everything regarding the use of TS to replace a lobby is nonsense. I'm very sorry, but you have to see a massive difference here.
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, HBB*Hunger said: - because - and exactly this is why everything regarding the use of TS to replace a lobby is nonsense. I'm very sorry, but you have to see a massive difference here. ‘Why do you think that is such a big problem? Seriously. What the hell do you think Hyperlobby was? IT WAS THE SAME AS EVERYONE USING THE SAME TEAMSPEAK SERVER!
BlitzPig_EL Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 BSR. Stop being so thick headed about this. It isn't the same in any way, shape, or form. You really have an issue with not being able to accept that you don't know what you are talking about. Hyperlobby, or any other similar utility is a website that shows all available servers, coop or DF, allows you to to see their settings, number of open slots, etc... and allow you to join from that interface, and also allow people to use a chat function to ask questions, or simply shoot the breeze. Teamspeak is a VOIP program that allows voice chat and limited text chat, and is typically hosted for the private use of individual groups. It has no capability to view game servers, or join them. It is excellent for what it is, but it is most definitely not a game lobby. 1 1
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: BSR. Stop being so thick headed about this. It isn't the same in any way, shape, or form. You really have an issue with not being able to accept that you don't know what you are talking about. Hyperlobby, or any other similar utility is a website that shows all available servers, coop or DF, allows you to to see their settings, number of open slots, etc... and allow you to join from that interface, and also allow people to use a chat function to ask questions, or simply shoot the breeze. Teamspeak is a VOIP program that allows voice chat and limited text chat, and is typically hosted for the private use of individual groups. It has no capability to view game servers, or join them. It is excellent for what it is, but it is most definitely not a game lobby. I’m not the one being thick headed. People who run regular coops can add a thread to the Teamspeak server for their server. It can have a lobby thread. It has a text chat function. If everyone knows about it and uses it as the hub for coops, what more do you need?
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: I’m not the one being thick headed. People who run regular coops can add a thread to the Teamspeak server for their server. It can have a lobby thread. It has a text chat function. If everyone knows about it and uses it as the hub for coops, what more do you need? may you hand me over the ts adress, where every single active pilot (game running) is waiting on? I may have missed it so far, I'm very sorry.
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, HBB*Hunger said: may you hand me over the ts adress, where every single active pilot (game running) is waiting on? I may have missed it so far, I'm very sorry. I don’t have to do anything. You have to do the same thing that was done with Hyperlobby. That app didn’t start out packed with people. They had to promote it on flight sim forums. You have to do the same. Start a thread about it in the forum. Let everyone know about it. If coops are as popular as you think they are, people will go to your server.
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: I don’t have to do anything. You have to do the same thing that was done with Hyperlobby. That app didn’t start out packed with people. They had to promote it on flight sim forums. You have to do the same. Start a thread about it in the forum. Let everyone know about it. If coops are as popular as you think they are, people will go to your server. Yes you have, cause your sht is all about that. You dont understand the actual point me and some others made here. We dont want HL back. A UI like HL implemented in the game would support COOP match building. You talk about TS like its an actual quick solution but guy you dont even beleave yourself. Edited November 22, 2019 by HBB*Hunger 1
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, HBB*Hunger said: A UI like HL implemented in the game would support COOP match building. Why should the developers do that when it’s painfully obvious that hardly anyone wants to play coops any more? And you’re right, I don’t believe that Teamspeak is an actual quick solution. Not because it would not work. It would work. But because the problem isn’t a missing lobby. The problem is missing people.
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said: And you’re right, I don’t believe that Teamspeak is an actual quick solution. Not because it would not work. It would work. But because the problem isn’t a missing lobby. The problem is missing people. Sorry, but there is no reason to further explain to you, that TS is not even close to a lobby system. Using TS as a hub for every player for any platform has never worked, will never work, and especially you would never make it work. You are just not able to understand, that you are compareing a third party software not even everybody is using (besides squads, free communitys ect ect who are using own servers) with a centralized, ingame lobby everybode has to use. How cant you understand the difference? Whats your point? The reason for missing coops right now are not the people (next thing you dont understand), its the way the lobby is handling them. But you as an omniscient speaker for a whole flightsim communtiy know it seriously better, and I apologize for my behaviour. I also have to say, that I cant stand that stubborn misbelief in unicorns anymore. Have fun posting here. Edited November 22, 2019 by HBB*Hunger
Guest deleted@134347 Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: Why should the developers do that when it’s painfully obvious that hardly anyone wants to play coops any more? And you’re right, I don’t believe that Teamspeak is an actual quick solution. Not because it would not work. It would work. But because the problem isn’t a missing lobby. The problem is missing people. you're missing the point that the best place to FIND all of those missing people is INSIDE the game. Not in TS. Not in DC. Not on some forum that some guy launched. It's inside the game. You go to the place where everyone is, i.e. logged in the game, it's in the game itself. And it's not only for COOP's. It's for the people who never met to meet someone for the next 2-3 hours they'll play and figure out how and where to squad up (be it TS, or DC). If this logic doesn't bring our painpoint forward enough then you're just a weird troll with some strange agenda here...
HBB*Hunger Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Count_de_Money said: you're missing the point that the best place to FIND all of those missing people is INSIDE the game. Not in TS. Not in DC. Not on some forum that some guy launched. It's inside the game. You go to the place where everyone is, i.e. logged in the game, it's in the game itself. And it's not only for COOP's. It's for the people who never met to meet someone for the next 2-3 hours they'll play and figure out how and where to squad up (be it TS, or DC). If this logic doesn't bring our painpoint forward enough then you're just a weird troll with some strange agenda here... Thank you, thank you! Maybe my english isnt good enough to make this point more clear
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Count_de_Money said: you're missing the point that the best place to FIND all of those missing people is INSIDE the game. Not in TS. Not in DC. Not on some forum that some guy launched. It's inside the game. You go to the place where everyone is, i.e. logged in the game, it's in the game itself. Dude, those people don't exist. That is now painfully obvious.
Guest deleted@134347 Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said: Dude, those people don't exist. That is now painfully obvious. just go away, troll.
BraveSirRobin Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Count_de_Money said: just go away, troll. Right back at ya...
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