Zoo Wings Server.

[ST_Catchov]

3 minutes ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Murder Mud map it was.

 

Yeah that's the one that crashed for me. I hope you get it sorted and add "I am the Walrus" to the soundtrack.  Goo goo ga joob ....

 

1 hour ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

Yes, and they're manufactured crap.

 

Are you serious man? If you want to go down that line, ALL popular music is manufactured for a certain audience. Punk, New Wave yes even Motorhead and Lemmy. And whatever's the flavour of the month these days? It's all about making money and creating a rebellious movement that youngsters embrace to buck the "establishment" or the "oldies" and give them a cause. Until they grow up. It's a friggin' business. 

 

Have you ever listened to Rubber Soul, Revolver, the White Album, Strawberry Fields, A Day in the Life? Experimental and innovative music for its time that changed the whole popular music scene. Without which, we'd still be listening to Perry Como.

 

Just don't give me this throwaway line of manufactured crap. That's a cheap shot.  Quality lasts through the ages.

 

But that's enough of that LOL. Sorry if I got wound up Zoo. Respect bro. Everyone has their opinions But if you were serious then we'll just have to beg to differ. And that's fine. I guess that's what makes this crazy world go around. 

 

S!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Oh, NOW you'll add airstrips!  

 

Setting up sites and what causes them to run right or wrong is above my pay-grade.  I trust you guys to that.

 

Just went back and flew In From Behind.  All good.

 

I've had to make several forced landings lately; just now with my rudder inop due to battle damage.  The surface viscosity is acceptable; the wind direction and terrain gradation is always a factor but that's also how it should be.

 

I AM NOT seeing wings come off with one burst.  I still aim for center mass and hit engines, fuel tanks, and pilots mostly; but sometimes I screw-up and hit the wings, tail, etc.  Nevertheless the planes are taking a HUGE amount of damage and staying in the air.  

 

In Zoom Lens I got into a duel with a Brisfit gunner and it got especially brutal.  I was wounded and just stayed in his six at about 150 meters while we shot the schnit out of each other's planes.  That part lasted a few minutes of continual gunfire;  eventually killed the gunner and then the pilot; then the 'Fit caught fire.  I should make a video of that.  Anyone who thinks Brisfits are going down with one burst should see that fight.  That sucker was hard to kill and he tore me up doing it.  And that's characteristic of what I'm seeing in SP and MP:  I am getting close into position and delivering heavy, accurate fire to center mass and it takes a lot to put them down.  Seems okay to me.

 

Yes I do see wings coming off a lot; but always after I've damaged them severely.  Never with one burst.  

 

The two instances I've seen lately of people losing wings in MP looked due to speed and rough control inputs.  Not saying they were inept: maybe it's the player's equipment: stick settings or the like?   If it's happening elsewhere, maybe it's that server?  Unknown. 

 

I've been flying duels testing the flammability of SPAD top wing tanks.  Now (not just SPADS but all planes) pilots can be in a fireball for a long time and still be looking around and adjusting their goggles right up to the point where they hammer-in.  Heh!  Didn't know they had Nomex in 1918. 

 

But all-in-all; everything's groovy.  All my planes are flying beautifully and both the sim and your sites are working fine for me.

 

Prosit!

 

 

BTW: as to music: I think to have it or not might depend on the map; but whatever map I was flying where you had ACE OF SPADES playing really worked for me.  

Edited December 17, 2020 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Zooropa_Fly]

@ Catchy...

 

 

 

Not the place for such a discussion.. but I will say R & R is dead. Has been dying for a long time truth be told.

Considering the World that's being ushered in.. they're not going to want kids growing up listening to anything about 'rebellion' or 'freedom' etc etc..

Perhaps the reason that the school instrument of choice these days in GB is the ukulele. Smash your Ukulele Pete !

 

I've stopped the music on the maps for now - I think the volume for tracks works independantly from the game volume - so it might be blaring for some and quiet for others.

 

Server will be down now for a few hours - got some vocals to record. Live mics and all that..

 

Thanks for the feedback.

 

S!

[ST_Catchov]

@ Zoozy

 

Agreed. About R&R and no place for discussion. No more. I guess it was and you hooked me in good you ba*tard.  Well done.

 

9 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

 

I've stopped the music on the maps for now - I think the volume for tracks works independantly from the game volume - so it might be blaring for some and quiet for others.

 

Yeah it did make me jump when the thrash metal came in without warning... at volume. But good/different once you got used to it. I liked it.

 

9 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said:

got some vocals to record

 

What's this all about then eh eh?

 

S!

[Zooropa_Fly]

Thrash Metal ?

 

Good God man that was Death Punk !

 

S!

[Zooropa_Fly]

Salute Zoo Fans !

 

I've started adding some AF's to the Air Start-only maps now that the soggy ground thing has been addressed... although I'm not convinced it's made much of a difference other than visually.

 

Anyway, The Flaming Forest now has two exciting airfields, the Entente one makes use of an in-game AF so no issues with that one.

The German one is a bit bumpy, as all the ground seems to be, but it's managable.

RRR is available at these AF's, and as a bonus - the forest fires are now a bit more spectacular.

I've also reduced the fighting altitude of the bots to 1000M so it doesn't take all day climbing to get to a fight if you choose to take off.

The air starts are still available at their original lofty altitude.

 

S!

[Zooropa_Fly]

That's AF's in The Lille Deal too.

 

S!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Just finished the Eve of Peronne map.  

 

WANDERFALKE: Right before it ended, I ran out of ammo on that last Camel and had to break off.  You sure finished him off, though.  That looked radical from my perspective.  Good flyin' witcha.      

[Wanderfalke]

Yeah, i noticed you didn't have enough time to finish him off, so i rammed him for you so you got the kill :). S!

[Todt_Von_Oben]

27 minutes ago, Wanderfalke said:

Yeah, i noticed you didn't have enough time to finish him off, so i rammed him for you so you got the kill :). S!

 

Heh!  You had a flamer and some dead pilots before that, too.  Good shootin'.  

[Cynic_Al]

It's hard to believe two years have passed since ZF exclaimed: "Good God it works!"

[Todt_Von_Oben]

The Zoo is comin' back; with bombers.  ?

 

Fly's working on his maps and I'm flying some tests; flew the Lille Deal and Icy Lake in the last couple days.  Lots of potential there.

 

Getting a little annoyance from my joystick (gimbals getting worn) and breaking-in a new HP G2 headset, so don't expect me to fly well; but I'll try to have some maps online this weekend.  I'll mark 'em available to the public so if you see The Zoo, sign on if for no other reason than to see if it's possible, okay?  At this point, we need to know that, too.

 

I've looked into what it would take to put The Zoo back online 24-7 and it's doable.  Needs a computer, a separate FC account, and the juice to run it.  It's  not too bad; about like running a 75 to 100 watt lightbulb all the time.  Depending on the PC, maybe somewhere between, say, $75 and $225 a year is what I've read so far.  I can afford that so it doesn't matter to me if we get a lot of traffic or not.  As long as it's up when I (and others) feel like flying it, that'd be good enough for me. 

 

I'm getting a pretty fair handle on how it works and learning more; but the best thing is my wife: she's retired from Time-Warner / Spectrum, was a manager in the local cable company, and knows all about Internet Servers.  What I don't know, she does.  

 

Right now I'm trying to figure out how much computer we need for an FC server.  I've got a few older ones and can buy another if I have to.  That's about where we're at with it this moment. 

 

The maps are great and the easy access to bombers could lead to everything from training to madness.  I've had a lot of fun there the past couple days and in that new G2 headset it all looks and sounds GREAT! 

 

There's really not any good landing strips near Lille yet but a Gotha can set down in the Train Station.  And you'd be surprised how good of an ice-boat a bomber nosed-in on a frozen lake can be. 

 

The smoke and the tracks last a long time, too. 

 

And I've been trying to video myself getting flamed for about three months and finally did yesterday.  It's really something when the smoke and flames come flickering up from beneath the ammo tubs in a Dr.1.  Only second time I've seen that in VR and it surprised the schnit out of me first time around.  Been trying to recreate it ever since and yesterday I did.  It was WILD!

 

Mo' wen' we know. 

 

Look for the Zoo online this weekend and if you see it, try to sign on, okay? 

 

If I get it figured out in time, (it's Saturday morning already and I worked all night AGAIN) I'll come back here and post a start-end time; hopefully with enough advance notice to give someone a chance to be there.  

 

Prosit!  

 

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Cynic_Al]

5 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

a Gotha can set down in the Train Station

 

I recommend the station be left unobstructed for through traffic.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

3 hours ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

I recommend the station be left unobstructed for through traffic.

 

Heh!  I had to click the link because I didn't know what "through traffic" meant; thought it was something like "dserver" or another hosting term I don't understand yet.

 

I remember doing what Arty is doing in that triplane; that was pretty slick: going to the right and heading down the street.  I never thought of that.

 

You can go straight and pull up and still miss those roofs outside but not by much.  I tried going inverted inside the depot but there's an invisible ceiling about the height of the doors.  (pic) Crunched it every time.

 

I landed a Gotha there (outside the building; on the tracks) the other day but nosed-in survivably.  

 

But now that you've reminded me, I've gotta try it in a bomber.  I know I won't make it through the other side but I'll be happy if I can just get it through the front doors. 

 

It's going on to midnight in Greenwich; almost 1 PM in Hawaii.  I'll put The Zoo online in four hours: from 04:00 to 06:00 A.M Greenwich time; That's 5 PM to 7 PM Hawaii time; about 8 PM to 10 PM in California.

 

I'll try it again starting five hours later: 9AM to 11 AM in Greenwich; 10 PM to 12 PM in Hawaii; 1 AM to 3 AM in California.  Maybe somewhere in there well see some traffic from the East Coast, South America, elsewhere in Europe, etc.

 

If anyone happens to see that, it would help if you try to sign-in even if you're not set up to fly; just so we'll know if you can get aboard when it's being hosted that way.

 

I'm also open to suggestions as to what time works for others.  If people will let me know when they'd like to fly, I can try to make that happen.

 

Hope to see y'all there.

 

Prosit!  

[Zooropa_Fly]

4 hours ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

I recommend the station be left unobstructed for through traffic.

 

Dammit I gave you a like for that. 

Smarty-pants. 

[ST_Catchov]

Will there be Death Punk? That is my question.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

2 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

Will there be Death Punk? That is my question.

 

Dunno.  I like Hendrix, Santana, Rhoades, etc.  But play whatever you like, I guess.  How's this?  ?

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Okay!  Flew the first two-hour jaunt from 1700 to 1900 Hawaii time.  (0400 - 0600 Greenwich time.)

 

The flying was great; but more about that later. 

 

I didn't see anyone else sign on so now I need to know if anyone tried but wasn't able because the server wouldn't accept it.

 

The Zoo will be up again for two more hours about 2 hours from now: 2200 to 2400 hrs Hawaii time; 0900 to 1100 in Greenwich.  

 

Hopefully, spacing the sorties out by five hours will make it available to folks in England and elsewhere who might have been sleeping.

 

If you see The Zoo online again in a couple hours; please try to sign in even if you aren't going to fly.  First thing we need to find out is if that's possible.

 

Prosit!  

[Zooropa_Fly]

I've just tried Todt, and couldn't get on.

Crashed the game !

 

Don't worry, this usually takes a bit of fiddling about to get right..

 

S!

 

[ST_Catchov]

Yeah same here. Locked up. Could get onto Flug no probs. Good initiative but. We need some fast food. Stick at it Toddy.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Thanks guys. That's what tonight was all about: to see if you could sign on and you both came through.  We'll get it worked out.

 

I flew 4.5 hours today; some of the best action I've seen in a long time.  Just got finished 15 minutes ago.  Too many cool things to list here; and I'm tired with a sore back.  What a workout!  But I'll put together a report before long.  These maps have a lot going for them.  A dedicated server would be a good thing.

 

I accomplished everything I wanted to tonight and lots more.  Amazed at some of the things that happened but it's all in the FR.  Film at eleven.  ?

 

Prosit!

 

 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

HP aerobatics at THE SNOWY PEAKS map of the ZOO WINGS SERVER.  Also got TURN UP TURNOISE working tonight.  I think that makes six maps so far that Zooropa fly has improved and made available.  Great bots!  Solid ground and Aerodromes!  Great Bombers! 

 

I think Zooropa Fly is one of the true Unsung Heroes of ROF and FC.  Outstanding work!  

 

S!    

[ST_Catchov]

That's a lol from me. 

 

One thing though Tod, one never praises another in an over the top manner for fear that said praisee (zoo baby) will get a big head. British reserve and repression don't you know old boy. Bad for morale. Look what happened to Larner ! I will just say his maps are rather good and leave it at that.

 

When do you think "The Zoo" will be up and running for the general public ?

[Todt_Von_Oben]

I flew the TURN UP TERNOISE map again tonight.  Started out in the 0400; everything worked well.  Terrain isn't muddy; aerodromes are good; T/O & L felt good.  Crunched one bomber but nobody died.  Not seeing the "touch and die" syndrome at all. 

 

Bombed the enemy aerodrome (missed) and got hit by bot fighters on RTB.  I escaped aerobatically and with the help of some bot friendlies.  As I was lining up on a long, high final, a SPAD collided with a Pfalz just off our eight o:clock.  That saved us.  The bots are ferocious.

 

Who knew you can slip a Handley Page pretty effectively?  Yep.  I was doing it tonight coming in on hot landings.  For a big plane, she flies pretty well.  Not as good as a D-18, but she can pretty much do a little bit of everything.

 

Going back up there again right now.  The Server is called THE BLOODY WINGS OF FLAMING DEATH.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

I've been running the maps a bit these past two days; working on my sim pod and researching what it takes to set up a server, too.

 

Look for this. 

 

BLOODY WINGS OF FLAMING DEATH 

IL-2 FLYING CIRCUS; WORLD WAR ONE  

WW1 Dogfighting, Bots and Bombers on uniquely enjoyable maps.  Hosted by Todt Von Oben; courtesy of Zooropa Fly. 

 

 If you see that, try to sign on so we can see if it's possible.  So far, some have tried with no luck but we're still researching it.

 

Tonight I received and ran the EVE OF PERONNE map.   I think that makes eight and ZF tells me that's about half of 'em.

 

We're looking into what it will take to set up and maintain a dedicated server.  Nothing definite yet on if, how, or when that might happen. 

 

Soon, I'll try to do some videos and posts at Dogfight Diary showing what's happening on these maps Zoo's come up with.  Really just a lot of good fun flying there.  The only limitation is your imagination.  I'm having a blast there with the bots but it was always better when others showed up.  We'd like to see that become available again in the future.

 

More when we know...

 

S!   

Edited April 17, 2022 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Cynic_Al]

22 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

try to sign on so we can see if it's possible.  So far, some have tried with no luck but we're still researching it.

 

 

To get your router's IP address, on the hosting machine, display the Start menu then type cmd <enter>.  Look for Default Gateway.  Also make a note of IPv4 Address. which is the hosting machine's IP you must specify as ServerIP in the sds file.

 

Log-in to your router and forward the ports 28000 and 28100 to the machine running the server.  Set 28000 to use both protocols, 28100 to use TCP.

 

Some routers identify devices by name, others by IP address.

 

If you have trouble finding the menu option for port forwarding, you may be able to find a YouTube video about forwarding on your type of router.

 

 

Configure your firewall(s) to allow internet access to dserver.exe (I hope you are using dserver).

 

 

Do the above and you'll stand a chance of having a connectable server.  If you don't, you won't.

 

[Todt_Von_Oben]

7 hours ago, Cynic_Al said:

 

 

To get your router's IP address, on the hosting machine, display the Start menu then type cmd <enter>.  Look for Default Gateway.  Also make a note of IPv4 Address. which is the hosting machine's IP you must specify as ServerIP in the sds file.

 

Log-in to your router and forward the ports 28000 and 28100 to the machine running the server.  Set 28000 to use both protocols, 28100 to use TCP.

 

Some routers identify devices by name, others by IP address.

 

If you have trouble finding the menu option for port forwarding, you may be able to find a YouTube video about forwarding on your type of router.

 

 

Configure your firewall(s) to allow internet access to dserver.exe (I hope you are using dserver).

 

 

Do the above and you'll stand a chance of having a connectable server.  If you don't, you won't.

 

 

THANK YOU!!!  

(And yes, THAT time I was shouting.)  ?

 

You know, Al, for a cynic you do have your moments.  That was right on target.  When it comes to this kind of stuff, I don't even know what I don't even know.  Your description sounds like exactly what I've been looking for.   ?

 

My wife is retired management from Time Warner / Spectrum and helped run the local cable company.  Even so, she only has a vague idea of what we're talking about here.  I just looked up Dserver to learn what that term means.  Total newbs at this; both of us.

 

But I think, working from your outline, I might be able to make this work.   Sure would like to.  ZF's maps are a blast!  

 

QUESTION 1 : How can I find out if I'm already using dserver; or, if I'm not, how do I get it?

 

QUESTION 2: If I open my firewall to access dserver.exe, does that put me at risk of catching a virus through the Internet?

 

I'm going back to surf the 'Net on that Q and may find the answers myself but can use any additional help I can get. 

 

Prosit!  

[ST_Catchov]

Al is a technical wizard. He knows his stuff. I suggest Toddo that you and the missus cease kite-surfing the Pipeline and get on with it. I want some fast food where the bugs don't really matter and it's all about fun and a bit of a laugh. C'mon man ! Get it on and bang that gong.

[76SQN-FatherTed]

On 4/17/2022 at 9:04 PM, Todt_Von_Oben said:

 

 

 

QUESTION 1 : How can I find out if I'm already using dserver; or, if I'm not, how do I get it?

 

 

 

From the unofficial mission editor guide (which can find on the forums):

 

"Before you can obtain and run a DServer, you must create a DServer account. The account
allows you to download and use a free, limited version of IL-2 Sturmovik that includes the
DServer software."

 

It then goes on to explain in detail how to get and install it.

 

It also suggests that running a deserver on the same PC as you play the game on is not a good idea performance-wise.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

1 hour ago, 76SQN-FatherTed said:

From the unofficial mission editor guide (which can find on the forums):

 

"Before you can obtain and run a DServer, you must create a DServer account. The account
allows you to download and use a free, limited version of IL-2 Sturmovik that includes the
DServer software."

 

It then goes on to explain in detail how to get and install it.

 

It also suggests that running a deserver on the same PC as you play the game on is not a good idea performance-wise.

Thank you.  I'll read up on it.  

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Flew a new version of Zoo's TWILIGHT ZONE map tonight; going back for some more after posting this.  So much originality. creativity, and things to do.  Really a great map.

 

ZF's been talking to me about how to get the site online; mentioned some knowledgeable people and places to get info.  Working on that when time permits.

 

Lately, though, I've found some companies that will host a gaming server for you at a modest fee.  I'm communicating with them and looking for one that can handle IL2-FC.  That looks like our best bet at the moment but any additional help would, well, help.  ?

 

Film at eleven.  Right now, I'm gonna go shoot down George Takei in his ME-262; and Lee Marvin in his Heinkel.  After that, there's choke cool places to fly through and other sights that you won't see anywhere else.  

 

Absolutely amazing!  Good stuff!  Always a hoot and a challenge.  Zoo Wings never gets dull.  Me likey! 

 

Thanks, Zooropa Fly!  Keep up the good work.  

 

Prosit!  ?

Edited April 30, 2022 by Todt_Von_Oben

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

2 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said:

Flew a new version of Zoo's TWILIGHT ZONE map tonight; going back for some more after posting this.  So much originality. creativity, and things to do.  Really a great map.

 

ZF's been talking to me about how to get the site online; mentioned some knowledgeable people and places to get info.  Working on that when time permits.

 

Lately, though, I've found some companies that will host a gaming server for you at a modest fee.  I'm communicating with them and looking for one that can handle IL2-FC.  That looks like our best bet at the moment but any additional help would, well, help.  ?

 

Film at eleven.  Right now, I'm gonna go shoot down George Takei in his ME-262; and Lee Marvin in his Heinkel.  After that, there's choke cool places to fly through and other sights that you won't see anywhere else.  

 

Absolutely amazing!  Good stuff!  Always a hoot and a challenge.  Zoo Wings never gets dull.  Me likey! 

 

Thanks, Zooropa Fly!  Keep up the good work.  

 

Prosit!  ?

Looking forward to it's availability/launch

[Todt_Von_Oben]

On 4/30/2022 at 3:32 AM, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Looking forward to it's availability/launch

 

I test-flew several maps yesterday.  ZF has come up with some great stuff.

 

ABOUT THE SERVER: I've been trying to educate myself about what it takes to get the server online.  Last week I started looking at companies that host game server sites for a modest fee.  The prices weren't bad but I haven't had one write back and confirm that he can work with IL2 BOS or FC.  

 

Lately, I found a thread that's all about Dserver.  (I didn't even know what that was.)  And I've come to understand that (1) dserver is available in my IL2-FC files; (2) I can set  up dserver to run a site through my own computer or a second, site-dedicated computer.  And (3) it requires obtaining a second IL2 FC account but the Developer provides that free of charge.

 

So today I'm looking into what the computer requirements to run FC on a dserver would be.  I understand a digital hard drive is preferable, but I'm lost as far as how powerful of a CPU, how much GPU, how much and what type RAM, and how many watts power we're going to need.

 

My present gaming computer is great to play on but I'm not sure how it would handle a server and really don't want to use this one for that anyway.

 

We bought a new workstation computer this year, too.  It might do the job.

 

Companies like Newegg sell workstation computers ranging from about $650 tp $4500.   

 

What do you guys think?  Know anybody who has run or is running a dserver from home on his or a second computer?  What kind of rig did he have?

 

Basically, at this point I need to know how much computer we need.  Anyone able to provide info on that?

 

S!  ?

 

AS YOU WERE!  Been researching and have a good handle on what it will take to run a Dserver.  Also checked several companies that host for a fee.  Weighing both options now and the Dserver seems like the best way to go.  Working...

 

 

  

Edited May 9, 2022 by Todt_Von_Oben

[Cynic_Al]

I would say anything with a ~3 GHz processor should be adequate to run DServer.  It won't need anything more than basic onboard graphics.

 

I have never known memory to be an issue, a 4GB machine should do.

 

Forget about renting a remote machine at least until you're competent to host locally.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

15 minutes ago, Cynic_Al said:

I would say anything with a ~3 GHz processor should be adequate to run DServer.  It won't need anything more than basic onboard graphics.

 

I have never known memory to be an issue, a 4GB machine should do.

 

Forget about renting a remote machine at least until you're competent to host locally.

 

Thanks.  I've found some good threads and this is starting to make sense to me now.

 

We have a new secondary computer but it only has a 2.9 gig processor and a mechanical hard drive.  Think that's worth trying?

 

And right.  I thought server sites were  turn-key.  Wrong.  All they do is host it; I have to do the rest and would be lost in the woods.  Plus, they are expensive. 

 

Dserver looks better all the time.

[Todt_Von_Oben]

Flew the newest map last night: GET THE GOTHS!  Great stuff!  Early dawn map with dark and light hours; spotlights, bonfires, etc.  Names (of course) reflect Goth musical groups.  Lots of fighters and bombers; take your pick to fly or fight.   Good job, Fly!  ?

 

S!