Getting Convoys And Trains To Move At Mission Start

[Beebop]

OK, another dumb question.....

I have read both mission building manuals and combed the threads here in Mission building but cannot find if there is a way to just get a convoy or train to start right after the mission does.

Mission Type:  Dogfight-Ground Attack Practice-Various Plane Types

 

In the IL-2 Mission Editor and Multiplayer Manual it says to get these things to move I need to

"Trigger the first waypoint on the route with a target link from another MCU or a message link from an object."  (page 68)  
What/Which MCU?  Message link from an object?  Either I truly am thick as a brick or maybe I just don't know where to look to find the information I need.

 

In Prangster's BoS Mission Building Guide it says I need to place a

Translator:Complex Trigger and "Set the Object script list to all 109s and the Countries to Germany. In Event Filter tick Object Entered." which will make the convoy/train begin moving when a German 109 enters the radius.  (page 40)  There are no plans for air to air combat in this mission nor do I wish to "trigger" the start with the Player plane.  The idea is if I go for target 'A' first then the train but the second time go for target 'B' first the train will be in a different place.  Does that make sense?

 

Is there a way to just get them to start moving a few seconds after the mission starts.  Is there an MCU (there are so many different types) I can use as a 'Start at Mission star and set a Trigger Timer to set a delay at the mission start so I'm not asking too much of the mission initially.

(why didn't i take rocket science 101 in college?)

 

Please be patient with me as I am 'unlearning' everything I learned about building missions in IL-2 '46.

 

 

[Habu]

You can use a timer to activate the first waypoint. Most of the time, it's that one which is used.

 

Mission Begin -- Add target ---> Timer (you set the valor in sec/min, it will define when you want that the waypoint is activated which mean when your vehicle will move after the begining of the mission) --- Add Target --> Waypoint 1

 

[Beebop]

OK. So the MCU's to use and the  Path is;
Translator:Mission Begin
> targeted to >
Trigger:Timer (delay set to when the covoy/train begins to move)
> targeted to >
First (Convoy/Train) Waypoint.

 

Now that is a simple, easy to understand explanation of how to get things moving.  T H A N K  Y O U!
So why can't that explanation be in the manuals followed by a "here's how to trigger this event using 'xxx' "?
This is what I'm finding missing in the manuals a lot of the videos, the basics.

 

Habu, you are a lifesaver.  And thank you for not being belittling or dismissive of a total noob beginner.

 

[JG4_Deciman]

16 minutes ago, Beebop said:

OK. So the MCU's to use and the  Path is;
Translator:Mission Begin
> targeted to >
Trigger:Timer (delay set to when the covoy/train begins to move)
> targeted to >
First (Convoy/Train) Waypoint.

 

Now that is a simple, easy to understand explanation of how to get things moving.  T H A N K  Y O U!
So why can't that explanation be in the manuals followed by a "here's how to trigger this event using 'xxx' "?
This is what I'm finding missing in the manuals a lot of the videos, the basics.

 

Habu, you are a lifesaver.  And thank you for not being belittling or dismissive of a total noob beginner.

 

 

And in case you setup those trains /trucks / whatever by a spawning trigger...
Give them at leat 4 seconds to spawn before you order them to do anything (move to WP, ..)

 

Deci

[Beebop]

Thanks for the tip Deci.

[Thad]

1 hour ago, Beebop said:

OK. So the MCU's to use and the  Path is;
Translator:Mission Begin
> targeted to >
Trigger:Timer (delay set to when the covoy/train begins to move)
> targeted to >
First (Convoy/Train) Waypoint.

 

Now that is a simple, easy to understand explanation of how to get things moving.  T H A N K  Y O U!
So why can't that explanation be in the manuals followed by a "here's how to trigger this event using 'xxx' "?
This is what I'm finding missing in the manuals a lot of the videos, the basics.

 

Habu, you are a lifesaver.  And thank you for not being belittling or dismissive of a total noob beginner.

 

 

Salutations,

 

The current manuals are lacking in such clarity sometimes but they are all we have right now. ?

 

There is a mythic tale about an updated mission editor that is forthcoming. The primary messenger (prophet) perpetuating this dubious story is one named JimTM. ?

[JimTM]

Beebop, I highly recommend that you read through "Chapter 1: Getting Started" and "Chapter 2: Learning Basic Mission Editor Skills" in the IL-2 Sturmovik Mission Editor and Multiplayer Server Manual. These chapters will help you understand the basics of the editor such as what a message link is (pg. 9) and how to set up links (pg. 19). 

 

Cheers!

 

Jim

4 minutes ago, Thad said:

...

There is a mythic tale about an updated mission editor that is forthcoming. The primary messenger (prophet) perpetuating this dubious story is one named JimTM. ?

 

I'm just passing on the message from this guy.

Edited November 9, 2019 by JimTM

[Beebop]

Thanks JimTM.  I will do that.

 

[Habu]

14 hours ago, JG4_Deciman said:

And in case you setup those trains /trucks / whatever by a spawning trigger...
Give them at leat 4 seconds to spawn before you order them to do anything (move to WP, ..)

 

Deci

Not 4, but 5s is better. ?

 

15 hours ago, Beebop said:

Trigger:Timer (delay set to when the covoy/train begins to move)

After the begining of the mission, because before it's a mission begining. If you have a trigger which check if a plane enter in an area, it will delay the move after a plane/vehicle enter in a specific area.

 

Have a look on the guide of Jim. It will be very helpfull, and Jim enhance it with time and questions ask on the forum.