SAG Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 I had heard about Gigabyte's boards being difficult to overclock and I am personally not very good at it but dam. my last board was just setting a couple of options and bam! overclocked CPU. Now, I set my Multiplier to 50 and it says in the bios that the result is 5ghz but in windows, I get from 800Mhz to 4.7Ghz under load at 54ºC and even when i set me cpu voltage to 1.30v , I check Hardware Monitor and it jumps between 0.64 and 1.43V ! Turbo boost is disabled. Any help is appreciated!
Dutch2 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) read this: https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/Global/multimedia/2/file/525/946.pdf Also check Der8auer youtube movies on youtube. edit, Gigabyte Z390 is not that difficult only more keen on the right RAM and I still find the Bios is an rubbish design. Edited October 16, 2019 by Dutch2 1
SeaW0lf Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) With Gigabyte you have to set LLC to don't have much variation on the Vcore (I think with every board). There are some videos on the internet regarding OCing with Gigabyte. Just don't go cheching boxes at will because things change with every generation, and you can damage your CPU if the Vcore is too high. I would also not recommend auto overclocking, the Vcore goes through the roof. I would also say that CPU-Z is a better app to check the Vcore. HWmonitor is more useful for temperatures, fan speed, that kind of thing. IIRC, sometimes HWmonitor does not display the Vcore (bugged), but other values. HWiNfo64 is also an awesome app with the average temperature on the fly (more precise than the max spikes). The problem with Asus at this point is that those YouTube channels were reporting that Asus were just splitting the VRM to adapt to the I9, when several models of Gigabyte were getting more real phases and heating less. My Z390 UD is rock solid and with little variation (or none) in Vcore and I have no problem to OC it. Right now I'm at 4.8Ghz with 1.224V. You mentioned that you were getting a new thermal paste, did you get a good one? *Edit: in fact, the NT-H1 from Noctua is pretty good (came with your cooler). Unless it is old or dry. I think I took my values from this video: Edited October 18, 2019 by SeaW0lf 1
SAG Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 10 hours ago, SeaW0lf said: You mentioned that you were getting a new thermal paste, did you get a good one? *Edit: in fact, the NT-H1 from Noctua is pretty good (came with your cooler). Unless it is old or dry. Thanks, Ill check the video out. Yes, my noctua thermal paste was 2 years old, so maybe that had something to do with the temps. Problem is that I need to source my paste from the US so getting some more will take a while. Right now, I tried with one of those graphite thermal pads and its not terribly bad but i will definitely change to a top end paste later on.
kestrel79 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Great topic! I was going to start something similar myself because I've never overclocked ever and it's a little intimidating and I don't want to ruin everything...but I built my PC with overclocking in mind down the road with a Noctua cooler so I'd love to give it a try. Are there any specific videos with a 9600k cpu and a Gigabyte Z390 Pro motherboard?
SAG Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, kestrel79 said: Great topic! I was going to start something similar myself because I've never overclocked ever and it's a little intimidating and I don't want to ruin everything...but I built my PC with overclocking in mind down the road with a Noctua cooler so I'd love to give it a try. Are there any specific videos with a 9600k cpu and a Gigabyte Z390 Pro motherboard? My motherboard has all the settings that the guy talks about in the video above, even though mine is a lower tier Mobo. Perhaps yours does too?? maybe you should check it out.
dburne Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 It really is best to get good overclocking info on your motherboard mfg forums. I learned a ton over the years for overclocking both motherboard/cpu's and graphic cards to a lesser extent from the EVGA forums, as I have EVGA products. Having said that, overclocking these unlocked Intel CPU's is really quite easy, just have to stress them good as you go to insure stability and watch your core temps to make sure they stay decent. You basically just up the multiplier on each core and add a little vcore voltage when needed, and check temps. Do small amount at a time, stress it for a good half hour to an hour, add a little more, rinse and repeat. When you get it to where satisfied, then stress it for a longer period to insure it is stable. Having a good CPU cooler is required to get decent overclocks.
SAG Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, dburne said: It really is best to get good overclocking info on your motherboard mfg forums. excuse my ignorance, but I google MFG forum and I only found some closed Dragon Ball Z forum.
SeaW0lf Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 You guys can also get good information on https://www.overclock.net/forum/1-overclock-net-forum/. Regarding thermal paste, this roundup is good to have an idea: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-comparison,5108-8.html. From my tests, this is is the closest I can get on the internet. The other websites have results all over the place, especially on YouTube. The viscosity of the paste is also important for it to spread properly on top of the CPU, and Kryonaut (the best), GC-Extreme and MX-4 are the best in my opinion (MX-4 more for a beginner). Thermalright's TF8 anf TFX also look good, but I never used and don't know its viscosity. MasterGel Nano is also good, but it is a bit thick on the viscosity. The metallic ones are expert stuff and I don’t recommend, unless you know what you doing (never used it). They also corrode the top of the CPU and some coolers (I think the copper finish ones). 1
dburne Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, SAG said: excuse my ignorance, but I google MFG forum and I only found some closed Dragon Ball Z forum. Motherboard "manufacturers" forum. In your case Gigabyte. 1
SAG Posted October 19, 2019 Author Posted October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, SeaW0lf said: You guys can also get good information on https://www.overclock.net/forum/1-overclock-net-forum/. Regarding thermal paste, this roundup is good to have an idea: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-comparison,5108-8.html. From my tests, this is is the closest I can get on the internet. The other websites have results all over the place, especially on YouTube. The viscosity of the paste is also important for it to spread properly on top of the CPU, and Kryonaut (the best), GC-Extreme and MX-4 are the best in my opinion (MX-4 more for a beginner). Thermalright's TF8 anf TFX also look good, but I never used and don't know its viscosity. MasterGel Nano is also good, but it is a bit thick on the viscosity. The metallic ones are expert stuff and I don’t recommend, unless you know what you doing (never used it). They also corrode the top of the CPU and some coolers (I think the copper finish ones). I just ordered some Kryonaut, hopefully I mount it correctly this time so that i don't run out of thermal paste. I only ordered one gram of the stuff though, how much of that tube do you think I should use on my CPU?
SeaW0lf Posted October 19, 2019 Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, SAG said: I just ordered some Kryonaut, hopefully I mount it correctly this time so that i don't run out of thermal paste. I only ordered one gram of the stuff though, how much of that tube do you think I should use on my CPU? Not that much, I would apply like the blob below, perhaps a tiny more. Especially with Kryonaut, it spreads like butter. It is the best thermal paste overall both in performance and to apply / viscosity. It is really top of the line stuff. If you go heavy on the blob, no problem, it is not conductive, but it can get messy on the sides of the CPU and then you have to clean it up. One gram I think is enough for a few applications. If you go over all the paste in tryouts and such, over time you can purchase on e-Bay to leave it as spare. Some of the Great-Britain stores sell for a good price and the shipping is also accessible. -- Edited October 19, 2019 by SeaW0lf 1
Dakpilot Posted October 19, 2019 Posted October 19, 2019 Maybe worth a look at Intel XTU and HWbot Eplained in the vid above not exiting but persevere.. Very useful info Very useful to compare other people's settings and record/track your own, with the same hardware and the ability to adjust settings without millions of trips into the bios https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000006022/processors/processor-utilities-and-programs.html Cheers, Dakpilot 1
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