Panzerlang Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) I might be tripping here but I swear the valve-springs and rockers used to move on the German engines (where they can be seen). Now they're static. Was it a RoF thing or are my marbles rolling? Talking of engines, what's the ticking noise when the throttle's too far forward at lower alts? Edited October 6, 2019 by J3Hetzer
BMA_Hellbender Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, J3Hetzer said: I might be tripping here but I swear the valve-springs and rockers used to move on the German engines (where they can be seen). Now they're static. Was it a RoF thing or are my marbles rolling? You're flying the Halberstadt, apparently. Move your head to the side and you'll see them move. It's a slightly different engine block compared to the Albatros and Pfalz. Quote Talking of engines, what's the ticking noise when the throttle's too far forward at lower alts? It's overcompression on the Mercedes D.IIIa, and it's only present on the Halberstadt CL.II 200hp, as the other planes don't have it (yet). Technically speaking it's pre-ignition, a.k.a. "knock". The fuel/air mixture is overly compressed at lower altitudes meaning that it often spontaneously combusts due to engine heat and burns up unequally rather than at (or slightly before) TDC, when the piston reaches the spark plugs. This can damage the cylinders over time. In other words: don't use full throttle at low altitude. Edited October 6, 2019 by J5_Hellbender 1
Panzerlang Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, J5_Hellbender said: You're flying the Halberstadt, apparently. Move your head to the side and you'll see them move. It's a slightly different engine block compared to the Albatros and Pfalz. It's overcompression on the Mercedes D.IIIa, and it's only present on the Halberstadt CL.II 200hp, as the other planes don't have it (yet). Technically speaking it's pre-ignition/detonation, a.k.a. "knock". The fuel/air mixture is overly compressed at lower altitudes meaning that it often spontaneously ignites due to engine heat and burns up unequally rather than at (or slightly before) TDC, when the piston reaches the spark plugs. This can damage the cylinders over time. In other words: don't use fuel throttle at low altitude. The ticking occurs in the D7F too. Thanks for the info, I did assume it was a bad thing but glad to have it confirmed. It happens without using the altitude throttle. Using a bit of AT stops it sometimes, which I figured was due to enrichening the mixture slightly. Edited October 6, 2019 by J3Hetzer
Barnacles Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, J3Hetzer said: I might be tripping here but I swear the valve-springs and rockers used to move on the German engines (where they can be seen). Now they're static. Was it a RoF thing or are my marbles rolling? Talking of engines, what's the ticking noise when the throttle's too far forward at lower alts? If you're in VR, they don't move. 1
Panzerlang Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, 71st_AH_Barnacles said: If you're in VR, they don't move. Ah! Thank you.
BMA_Hellbender Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, 71st_AH_Barnacles said: If you're in VR, they don't move. Seriously? Why is that?
Barnacles Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 2 hours ago, J5_Hellbender said: Seriously? Why is that? To prevent ASW artifacts. 1
BMA_Hellbender Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 71st_AH_Barnacles said: To prevent ASW artifacts. Thank you, I’ve just read up on it and I had no idea this existed. I guess you can add it to the list of reasons I’m holding off on VR for now.
Barnacles Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, J5_Hellbender said: Thank you, I’ve just read up on it and I had no idea this existed. I guess you can add it to the list of reasons I’m holding off on VR for now. Yep VR is cool but there are still limitations and compromises. Edited October 6, 2019 by 71st_AH_Barnacles 1
Gretsch_Man Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 5:14 PM, 71st_AH_Barnacles said: If you're in VR, they don't move. You can see them move in VR, but only after first shutting down the engine, then only for a very short moment just before the engine comes to a stop.
SYN_Vander Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 22 hours ago, J5_Hellbender said: Thank you, I’ve just read up on it and I had no idea this existed. I guess you can add it to the list of reasons I’m holding off on VR for now. Oooooohh, don’t do that Bender! VR was made for WW1 flying! Bought a Rift S this summer and have not reverted back to monitor/TrackIR once!
J2_Trupobaw Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) On 10/6/2019 at 10:12 AM, J5_Hellbender said: Technically speaking it's pre-ignition, a.k.a. "knock". The fuel/air mixture is overly compressed at lower altitudes meaning that it often spontaneously combusts due to engine heat and burns up unequally rather than at (or slightly before) TDC, when the piston reaches the spark plugs. This can damage the cylinders over time. In other words: don't use full throttle at low altitude. That's how it worked historically, in Cl.II we have you can go full throttle at sea level and keep climbing until stops knocking somewhere between 1200 and 1500 m, no damage to engine. Not sure if the engine is running at higher power (it shouldn't be due to pre-ignition?) but the RPM are higher... Edited October 7, 2019 by J2_Trupobaw 1
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