Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[CUJO_1970]

Soon...

 

 

 

 

[Feathered_IV]

Looks fantastic.  I hope the Il-2 series gets lighting like that one day.

[DD_Arthur]

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by DD_Arthur

[CUJO_1970]

ahhh I'm so close to buying that thing....

[9./JG27golani79]

On 10/31/2021 at 2:14 PM, Stoopy said:

This might sound counterintuitive but you might want to look at the Milvis PC-6 Porter.

 

Got the plane yesterday - it is fun and from what I´ve seen it´s quite capable regarding climbs and descents .. need to get familiar with the beta function

For the moment I´m just having some fun with it flying and trying stuff out.

 

 

[Feathered_IV]

The Super Constellation from Red Wing got released today...

 

 

 

 

[ZachariasX]

Looks nice, though not on par what A2A has with their Connie. But I guess that will take some time until the "Captain of the Ship" modules are ported. As with Accusim, the COTS is a dedicated platform outside the sim and only once they have sorted the Accusim issue, they will adress COTS.

 

So far the Red Wing Connie has not all systems functioning yet, but is an "early access". From their website

 

The building of an aircraft is a very long process.

We are proposing an early access to our main aircraft project L-1049-G SUPER CONSTELLATION.

 

You acquire the plane at a specific step of development and at a specific price.

Then during time, you enjoy the updates without paying any more.

 

STEP I (AVAILABLE)

A flyable plane with standard options / BREITLING version 

 

STEP II (AVAILABLE)

A complete aircraft with essential systems

– AIR FRANCE version (french cockpit)

– TWA version with wing tanks

– SWiSS AIR version with wing tanks

 

STEP III (W.I.P.)

Hard mode / failures , emergency process, fire systems, 

Full systems / non essential breakers, O² systems , Oil systems, complexe feathering system 

Cargo version  – MATS livery main 

STEP IV

Weather radad, LORAN radio , APU all failures 

L-1049 is available at STAGE II.

 

Work in progress: STAGE III

–  Complexe fire extinguisher system 

–  feathering system

–  Complexe fuel system managment

 

But it is nice to see that complex modules like this one are getting more numerous. That will put some pressure on ASOBO working on their SDK, especially if such modules sell well.

 

[CUJO_1970]

I neeeeed that Twin Otter man.

[Monostripezebra]

I caved in and bought the N17.. not perfect by far, but definately fun.

 

 

[dburne]

Ray Tracing coming to MSFS 2020 in sim update 7.

 

 

[Monostripezebra]

The Bell 47G is now officially in the in-game Marketplace as first helo.. I don´t know how they´ve done it, but I count that as "officially having helicopters now"

 

While it is a work of art.. unfortunately it is definatly not without quirks.. the left pedal (powerpedal) draws so much manifold that if you have an engine failure sooner or later, Rotor RPM increasing by pulling a bit cycle in autorotation is also weird, etc. But it is fun and the inbuilt stability settings allow for adapting it to ones likeing better.

 

My first autorotation attempts all look terrible if not deadly.

 

 

[dburne]

I must say this sim is absolutely gorgeous in VR and runs decently in the Reverb G2 and Open XR Developer Tools.

I have spent most of the weekend doing some nice leisurely flying in the Cessna 172- that is some beautiful scenery in this sim.

My Vive Pro 2 is off for warranty service but pretty sure I will be hanging on and using the Reverb G2 just for this sim since it runs so well using Open XR.

[Stoopy]

On 11/14/2021 at 1:06 PM, Monostripezebra said:

The Bell 47G is now officially in the in-game Marketplace as first helo.. I don´t know how they´ve done it, but I count that as "officially having helicopters now"

 

While it is a work of art.. unfortunately it is definatly not without quirks.. the left pedal (powerpedal) draws so much manifold that if you have an engine failure sooner or later, Rotor RPM increasing by pulling a bit cycle in autorotation is also weird, etc. But it is fun and the inbuilt stability settings allow for adapting it to ones likeing better.

 

My first autorotation attempts all look terrible if not deadly.

 

Not too bad really!  I've really been enjoying the Bell 47 since it came out and was jazzed to see it show up in the marketplace this last weekend.  Do you have any of the other helos like the freeware RSP Robinson R44 or H135?   Also the payware H145 is simply becoming a masterpiece.

 

A recent R44 excursion:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/610211-surf-report-for-orange-county-sunday-nov-14/

 

And something similar with the H135:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/610102-surf-report-for-most-of-san-diego-county-ca-11-12-21/

 

[Monostripezebra]

I haven´t tried the other helis yet.. but it really looks cool that things now get started. My controls are still a bit wonky for the Bell.. but the good old autorotation "see if I can drop in there" fun is definately there.

 

 

[ZachariasX]

A message from Scott Gentile over at their forum. I'll be soon spending some money then:

 

I just wanted to say that as of yesterday, thanks to our brilliant Michal Krawczyk and Mark Smith, we appear to be out of the woods with Accu-Sim and MSFS2020. It goes to show that there is almost nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it and don't give up.

Today for the first time, I took off and performed a bunch of maneuvers in the air, came back with a nice flare and landed in an all-new Accu-Sim Comanche 250. All major road blocks are cleared.

We were lucky, during this long dry spell of development the US military has been making huge use out of Accu-Sim technology as this has paid the bills at A2A. We have an Accu-Sim turboprop and turbojet already on the shelf that we can use for any future airplanes, thanks to this military development along with a lot of cool avionics.

So now that we have this Comanche 250 in place we can properly plan for MSFS development. Keep in mind that being brand new tech, systems and physics, it will take longer for this first airplane, which is why we chose the Comanche 250 since we know it so well. But once this airplane is out the Accu-Sim production line will be in place, so to speak.

Scott

 

Accusim soon on FS2020!

[Hoots]

9 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

A message from Scott Gentile over at their forum. I'll be soon spending some money then:

 

I just wanted to say that as of yesterday, thanks to our brilliant Michal Krawczyk and Mark Smith, we appear to be out of the woods with Accu-Sim and MSFS2020. It goes to show that there is almost nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it and don't give up.

Today for the first time, I took off and performed a bunch of maneuvers in the air, came back with a nice flare and landed in an all-new Accu-Sim Comanche 250. All major road blocks are cleared.

We were lucky, during this long dry spell of development the US military has been making huge use out of Accu-Sim technology as this has paid the bills at A2A. We have an Accu-Sim turboprop and turbojet already on the shelf that we can use for any future airplanes, thanks to this military development along with a lot of cool avionics.

So now that we have this Comanche 250 in place we can properly plan for MSFS development. Keep in mind that being brand new tech, systems and physics, it will take longer for this first airplane, which is why we chose the Comanche 250 since we know it so well. But once this airplane is out the Accu-Sim production line will be in place, so to speak.

Scott

 

Accusim soon on FS2020!

Oh. Oh dear. There goes even more money then...

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, Hoots said:

Oh. Oh dear. There goes even more money then...

I might consider to start update the game.

[Hoots]

3 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

I might consider to start update the game.

That's a big old download now

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, Hoots said:

That's a big old download now

I know.

U might delete and reinstall. I got passed when for the second time lost my bought planes and just quitted. 

Also. I have not much time for flying

[9./JG27golani79]

Already enjoyed the Comanche in FSX .. gonna buy it for sure 

[Lusekofte]

16 hours ago, Monostripezebra said:

I haven´t tried the other helis yet.. but it really looks cool that things now get started. My controls are still a bit wonky for the Bell.. but the good old autorotation "see if I can drop in there" fun is definately there.

 

 

Damn beautiful environment for flying choppers. Even up close.

You are a good stuntpilot, so I cannot really judge the FM and aerodynamic combined with physics. To me it seems very arcades and dead. But again, you do things I never manage

[CUJO_1970]

Would love to have you back Lusekofte ?

[Monostripezebra]

22 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Damn beautiful environment for flying choppers. Even up close.

You are a good stuntpilot, so I cannot really judge the FM and aerodynamic combined with physics. To me it seems very arcades and dead. But again, you do things I never manage

 

I must say, I really enjoy it. The more I test it, the more its clear that it is NOT the ultimate realism chopper.. but for what it is, it is still very likeable. I would describe it a bit like ARMA-Copters: not perfect, not truely realistic and not overly deep systems wise.. but very fun through the environment they´re in. In both cases you find enough "advanced" flightmodel elements like VRS etc to make a good challenge and in the way you can explore the surroundings with them it becomes quite a bit adictive.

 

I impulse-bought the marketplace version and it has a built in configuration tool (on a cockpit switch) to adapt to your controls, settings etc in terms of stability and that is quite neat. And considering what MSFS offers, it is really a work of art in a way. But I also admit I am a bit of a sucker for the Bell 47. Its so pretty in its uglyness.

 

There is more details out on the Reno Races:

 

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[AndyJWest]

MSFS Update 7 is live. In a masterpiece of timing, so is the latest update to the DCS beta, which I'd already started downloading. I'm fully expecting blue smoke from my WiFi hub at some point...

[Feathered_IV]

Aaaannnnd….   Just as I’m heading out the door to work 

[CUJO_1970]

Instant download...entire upgrade package, no brainer - it's literally the best value in simming right now.

 

May not have time to fly until sometime this weekend though. Can't wait to dig in.

[AndyJWest]

I've given the Super Hornet a quick test, and it does about what I'd expect from a MSFS stock aircraft. Looks the part, but the flight model isn't anything to write home about. I've not figured out exactly what works and what doesn't, but the basic systems seem to be there. Or at least enough of them to get from A to B, and break a few windows on the way.

 

I seem to be having graphics issues with it, though this might be down to the update trashing my settings or something - needs more investigation. 

[Monostripezebra]

Ok.. I was stupid and bought the full race pace. Word of advice: DON´T

 

Overall the races are a bit dull and bland, going all in circles only and all the different planes of one category appear to be cosmeticss only, so if you actually want to race, go for the cheap pack.. and if you REALLY REALLY want any of the planes, which are all just repetative variations of each other, except for 3 mustangs (an A variant and 2 highly modified racers strega and the white one.. you can still get those alone without spamming your hard disc and plane selection menue with that repetative crap.

 

On my very first time trial I ende up in the top 30, with pylon cut etc.. I guess not too many racers this far.

 

Overall, I am a bit so-so about the update. The Volocopter is more or less nicely done, but an incredibly boring aircraft. You can however switch of all motors selectively on the overhead panel to make it do more hilarious shit. The Porter, which i had grad hopes for, so far appears very superficial bland to fly probably the milviz one is much much preferable.. The F-18 seemed nice so far, but the cockpit is huge "inop inop inop" thingy.

 

The best thing so far for me remains the Bell 47. I love that thing.. sure it has some simplifications like "engine failure" means the AI just pulls the mixture lever and it physically goes down in the cockpit, as well as the magnetos switch off, but I can overlook that easy, it is doing more or less what it should.

 

Compared to Aerofly FS2 the rotor RPM dynamic is way slower and less responsive, but autorotations are fun

If anyone cares,

 

 

 

On the first race of the jets I even got place 10 lol..

 

 

 

Update: I was wrong.. at least in time-trial mode, the addon-planes beat the stock planes. Pipsquitch is the fastest L39, I got to place 3 in the world, just by changing the airframe... makes me a little sad (because they are not equal.. but which variant people used show up in the leaderboards, so you can see there what the fastest addon is per class)

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[Feathered_IV]

Okay, home and downloading now...  What the hell is a Pilatus Porter?  Sounds like a character from Harry Potter.

[AndyJWest]

18 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Okay, home and downloading now...  What the hell is a Pilatus Porter?  Sounds like a character from Harry Potter.

 

Pilatus Porter is the parachutist's pal. Pull 'em up, push 'em out, and plummet precipitously. Done properly (prop in beta mode as an airbrake) you can get back down before they do.

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by AndyJWest

[ZachariasX]

2 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

What the hell is a Pilatus Porter?

It's the Fiesler Storch made right.

 

Pilatus is a rather paticular aircraft manufacturer:

• The PC-6 (Porter) redefined the utility aircraft.
• The PC-7 redefined what a military trainer is.
• The PC-12 redefined the business prop aircraft.
• The PC-24 redefined the business jet by being first to openly acknowledge that there is a market for business jets to have doors to accomodate palette size cargo. And take off from austere enviroments.

 

[dburne]

SU7 broke the VR toolbar system. Hopefully they get a fix out soon.

[Monostripezebra]

So i took a bit more time to test the Reno Airrace part..

 

So far my takeaway is: The planes are by and large copy paste with always 1-2 sticking out by beeing significantly superior. So for anyone not wanting to buy the expensive "full" race package one would have to buy the race access package, but due to the planes that come with that beeing outclassed one would have to also buy the "top" class plane that everyone takes, at least for "time trial".

 

It says that for the MP quick races the performances are "normalized" and thus it would not matter.. but I am not su sure.. i see the top planes in top places against players all the time

 

 

For the 4 classes those are:

Biplanes: the 2nd hand one (despite having lower speed stated in the stats, it beats the "hot one"  (2nd best)

T-6: this actually the only open class where many different contenders have a chance and are all very very close.. but the stock T-6 seems a tiny tiny bit behind.

Unlimited Class: The Strega is 1st, Voodoo is 2nd.. honorary mention to the single P51A, that one is actually one of the racing planes that is not copy-past

Jets: Pipsqueak is very clearly the dominant plane.

 

unfortunately, race acess + a competative plane is the same price as the deluxe pack (albeit it gives you way less garbarge on the hard disc)

 

I just made place 2 in the world for biplane timetrials... that plane flies really nice and is about the only exception to the pitts overkill that is fun, imho.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[Blooddawn1942]

Since the update I can't move the globe in the menu and every time I start a flight there is a checklist which cannot be closed. So great...

Seems to be a general issue with the mouse interaction. I can't manipulate any in game window, be it flightplan, com menu or map. Can't drag it and nothing. 

[DD_fruitbat]

Question for you all, have any of you tried doing this?

 

 

I'm quite tempted to reinstall and try this, particularly because bing maps for where i live are awful, and the Google map textures are waaaaay better,

 

Anyway,  anyone attempted it?

 

 

 

[SYN_Vander]

49 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Question for you all, have any of you tried doing this?

 

 

I'm quite tempted to reinstall and try this, particularly because bing maps for where i live are awful, and the Google map textures are waaaaay better,

 

Anyway,  anyone attempted it?

 

 

 

 

Nope, but seems to me the Bing maps attempts to blot out the pictures of vehicles etc on the road and the Google map textures do not have that so I guess you'll see a lot more 'flat' objects

[Tektolnes]

3 hours ago, Blooddawn1942 said:

Seems to be a general issue with the mouse interaction.

Have you tried putting your mouse profile back to Default? I haven't been able to update yet but I think I saw somebody mention this problem and that this was the fix. 

[dburne]

3 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Question for you all, have any of you tried doing this?

 

 

I'm quite tempted to reinstall and try this, particularly because bing maps for where i live are awful, and the Google map textures are waaaaay better,

 

Anyway,  anyone attempted it?

 

 

 

 

I have seen some bad reports from folks trying this.

 

 

4 hours ago, Blooddawn1942 said:

Since the update I can't move the globe in the menu and every time I start a flight there is a checklist which cannot be closed. So great...

Seems to be a general issue with the mouse interaction. I can't manipulate any in game window, be it flightplan, com menu or map. Can't drag it and nothing. 

 

Are you using VR?

If so you need to bind Instrument View 10 - CTRL 0 (zero) to a button. That view will allow to manipulate toolbars with the mouse.

VR Zoom will not work in that view, so can bind reset cockpit view to a button which will then allow VR Zoom to work again ( but not mouse with toolbars).

 

If you are not in VR then disregard.

Edited November 19, 2021 by dburne

[Blooddawn1942]

Thanks for the hints guys! Will check it out when I'm back from work this afternoon. 

Yes, I'm using VR. 

[Feathered_IV]

8 hours ago, Tektolnes said:

Have you tried putting your mouse profile back to Default? I haven't been able to update yet but I think I saw somebody mention this problem and that this was the fix. 

That worked for me.  Thanks very much!