Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[jollyjack]

PFF finally got it going, the MS flightsim download.

Bought it on DVD but it would not install from those, besides with both DVD sets i tried, one of the disks had errors.

Now what an awful drag with all them microsoft demands. I pity those with a slow internet !

Windows LTSC 1809 was a nono, so i had to get the newer 21H1 LTSC version for windows first, and then to get that XBOX Game app or whatever stuff going also.

You need several CMD trickt to get that running on LTSC. Support from Microsoft? Forget it, looped non- working support pages with info that does not work.

All probably due i don't want windows pro or home any more. Installation of this one is far worse than Steam ... IL2 certainly has their act together !

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by jollyjack

[SYN_Vander]

1 hour ago, Monostripezebra said:

Despite all its shortcomings, I have a lot of fun with the Ju52. I really find it has a nice fun-to-money ratio.

 

 

 

Agreed! It's my first choice for a sightsee flight to check out some German castle. I love the fact that you can fly with the top window open... 

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by SYN_Vander

[Monostripezebra]

1 hour ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Agreed! It's my first choice for a sightsee flight to check out some German castle. I love the fact that you can fly with the top window open... 

 

 

 

Oh, that castle is Hohenzollern Castle and the little green stripe to the bottom right actually works as a landing strip for the Ju, bet you tried that one, too! ;=P

 

 

The windows are such a nice touch.. I just wish you could elevate the pilots position higher through the roof with open window.. that would be so cool. But what one can do, is move the pilot position through the small door and into the cabin if you move low enough.. also very very cool to walk around there.

 

 

[DD_fruitbat]

On 10/6/2021 at 6:04 AM, Gambit21 said:

I think someone should put together a list of the aircraft that are top-drawer in all areas. Flight model, exterior, interior. Too much variability In content it seems.

 

Be a very short list....

[DD_Arthur]

4 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Be a very short list....

 

Lol. 

MSFS does make you appreciate the effort that goes into combat flight sims?

[Feathered_IV]

Kind of hard to believe this game has been out for a whole year already.  And I've only made it as far as Scotland from Australia.  

Had to sneak up on Scotland via the Faroe and Shetland Islands.  Heading into Wick for a refuel.  I think my next target will be to head over to Islay and check out the Bruichladdich distillery.

 

[Pict]

10 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Heading into Wick for a refuel.  I think my next target will be to head over to Islay and check out the Bruichladdich distillery.

 

You're in Caledonia, land of the Picts, so I feel the need to offer some local knowlage 

 

If you want a scenic trip en route, try island hopping down the North Minch, the outer Hebrides has beutiful beaches even by Aussie standards, especially on the west coast of Lewis & Harris. Depending on the tide, you could try landing at Barra Airport, believed to be the only one in the world where scheduled flights use a tidal beach as the runway.

 

From Wick to Lewis you would fly over some of the best scenery in the Scottish Highlands, not just according to me, but even Jack Bruce of "The Cream" shared that opinion. On the west coast of Lewis there are the Callanish Stones, a neolithic stone circle that pre-dates Stonehenge by a fair way and nearby to the north is a well preserved ironage fort or "Broch" at Dun Carloway

 

If you go that route, then Islay is not far from Barra, at least not far by Australian measure, so you won't get the time to crack a 2nd tinny...ok it's a Dragon and not that rapide... 

 

Coincedence for me here is that my grandfather who had moved from Scotland to Australia after WWI, was back in uniform and back in Scotland for WWII and I have a photo of him standing next to a Dragon Rapide at Stornoway aerodrome during the war. What are odds, I must look it out  Oh, if you are in the circiuit at Stornoway airport you are almost certain to fly over the house I was born in.

 

Stornoway was also used as an emergency stop on the northern Atlantic route for B-17's, B-24's etc, heading to Europe on the Iceland - Prestwick leg. One unfortunate Fortress hit a dump truck that was crossing the runway, no luck, you land on an emergeny runway only to crash into a truck that shouldn't have been there. Benbecula was a Coastal Command base and there still one of their B-17's in sea off the end of the runway, while at Stornoway a Halifax sank completely after being left on boggy ground off the end of the main runway. It's still there and I bet always will be as they extended that runway in the 1980's to accomodate more modern NATO aircraft.

 

So apart form being pretty distant from the classical frontlines, it was right on for the Battle of the Atlantic and other than the RAF, Coastal Command and the USAAF being present, the Royal Navy was there too, with an MTB base in Stornoway harbour and at Keose in Loch Erissort they had a top secret base for testing "Chariots", the frogman driven torpedos they tried to sink the Tirpitz with. They lost one once and one of the frogmen survived, made it to a house and totally freaked out the old fellow who answered the door.

 

Enemy action in the area was limited to non existant, but a Bf-110 did strafe the tower at Stornoway and the Lighthouse at the Butt of Lewis, only to get shot down into the sea in that area shorty afterwards.

 

There were a few reports of U-Boats crews coming ashore on the west coast to steal sheep, but never verified.

 

And the last but most famoust story from WWII in the Outer Hebrides was that of the S.S. Politician, depicted with a fair bit of artisitic license in a British comedy movie from 1947 called "Whisky Galore". True story about a freighter who while taking a short cut between the Islands of Barra and Eriskay while heading into the Atlantic to join a convoy bound for the USA, ran onto a sand bank in fog and eventually sank. The locals went out and to their amazement found that the main cargo was Scottish Whisky, literaly tons of it. Whisky at that time was almost impossible to get in Scotland.

 

Great story, too long for here, but that last surviving person that was directly involved is my own uncle and he should be 98 years old in a few days time. He was the carpenter to the salvage divers and has some amazing memories of that incedent. I will recount one anecdote, while I'm here. One day the divers sent up a large barrel / cask, when the boys opened it on the barge, bubbles and foam came out and they were conviced they had beer, which would make a nice change from all that whisky. No such luck, it was raw whisky. The distillers have for a long time sent barrels of raw whisky on many return trips of the Atlantic in order for the ships motion to soak up the flavor from the cask. Anyhow, after that people were seen on Eriskay to be walking around with buckets of whisky. I think this was depicted in the film, but it really did happen.

 

==================================

 

Great screenshot, looks to be an impressive, imerssive simulator 

 

Callanish Stones, Isle of Lewis

 

 

Luskentyre, Isle of Harris, if not for the temprature you could be forgiven for thinking you were some place north Bowen or the Whitsundays. Funnily enough when I think of that, just like at Bowen, there was a seaplane base at Stornoway and they flew Catalina's from it. 1st time I'd connected those dots.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra_Airport

 

Barra Airport

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by Pict
done editing...I could talk all day about this

[DBFlyguy]

 

 

5 new free planes planes are coming in the next update in November including a Super Hornet:

 

[dburne]

Sounds like a very nice update coming in Nov. I will be looking forward to trying out the DX12 version of the sim.

[Feathered_IV]

I wasn’t especially interested in Reno aircraft but the Harvard and early P-51 are looking great to me.  Really looking forward to it. 

[Stoopy]

I got in as a beta tester for the Reno air racing expansion , which is slated to last only through this weekend.  

 

Spent a couple of hours with it tonight and found it to be gamier than I expected it to be. A bit let down about the in-your-face aspect of it and the canned feel.  On the plus side, once you go to the trouble of getting your controllers set up the way you like again (the beta is a separate sim install) , some of the racing action does get tense and the adrenaline running a bit.   Neck hurts from turning left constantly.

 

The audio aspects wore me out though. Between the heavy reverb of the race announcer blasting away and the spotter/crew chief/whatever he is talking to you on the radio during the race like it's NASCAR.  I wish there were some audio options to turn that stuff off.  I don't need the guy on the radio saying "You got this!" every time I finish a lap. Dude I had it before we even cranked the engine up.  The fun of online racing is being on comms with your friends and talking trash to one another as you race.  Not sure how that will be possible with the cacophony of noise thats present. 

 

The biggest question is how expandable will it be by the user base.  Having just one venue, Reno, will get old rather quickly.  If users cannot design additional courses I can't see sticking with it.  And it would be a break of sorts with the heritage of the FS series which has found it's success and appeal thanks to expandability through user-created content.  That should at least include the ability to design courses particularly since this sim already provides us the entire world to partake of.  Imagine those possibilities. 

 

Edited October 23, 2021 by Stoopy

[Feathered_IV]

On 10/18/2021 at 11:34 PM, Pict said:

You're in Caledonia, land of the Picts, so I feel the need to offer some local knowledge 

 

Excellent stuff!   I'm looking forward to putting that to good use!  ?

Kind of feel like a whiskey now though  

Edited October 23, 2021 by Feathered_IV

[Feathered_IV]

Here's what I got when I mixed Australian beaches with Scottish weather  

 

 

 

 

C'mon laddie.  Up we go..

 

 

I actually made it a fair way down the coast, with just a compass and the phlegm of my ancestors to guide me.  Eventually though I decided to go easy on myself and turned off the live weather.  Much easier to have a look around now.  The coastline reminded me a lot of South Australia.

 

 

I found Barra without too much trouble.  I see what you mean!  ?

 

 

Popped in for a landing.  It was really nice to see my shadow coming in to meet me.

 

[Tektolnes]

8 hours ago, Stoopy said:

I got in as a beta tester for the Reno air racing expansion , which is slated to last only through this weekend.  

 

How are the planes like the Mustang? That would be the main draw for me if they were pretty good fidelity. I suspect that they're probably gamed down though to facilitate the air racing aspect? 

[Pict]

9 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Here's what I got when I mixed Australian beaches with Scottish weather  

 

Oops, I should have warned you, but now you know  Looks like it cleared up on the West side of the Uists, I'd say "Stinky Bay" possibly by the looks of it...so named for the smell of the rotting seaweed that perpetually washes up there.

 

13 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Kind of feel like a whiskey now though  

 

There's a thing 

 

I actually got tanked yesterday (see  below), but I only had one wee dram (small Whisky) later in the evening. It wasn't anything speacial, just a little drop of "Black & White" that I put in an Irish coffee I made for us after dinner.

 

 

Joking aside, I've been meaning to start a topic just for Whisky, well mostly for Whisky, we could look at Whiskey too, as I keep running into people here who share the passion for the better quality stuff and it's be fun to see what others are currently into and share some finds etc.

[ZachariasX]

There should always be a thread for good stuff.

[CUJO_1970]

There used to be a good spirits thread going here.

 

I'll take care of the bourbon side of things ?

 

[DD_Arthur]

13 hours ago, Pict said:

 "Stinky Bay" possibly by the looks of it...so named for the smell of the rotting seaweed that perpetually washes up there.

 

Seaweed? I thought it was to do with the amount of chemical weapons and explosives that keep washing up on the shore there.?

[Feathered_IV]

Bloody Celts.

 

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Bloody Celts.

 

 

That's gotta be the "Rocket Man" Elton John's singing about...

[Stoopy]

On 10/23/2021 at 7:34 AM, Tektolnes said:

 

How are the planes like the Mustang? That would be the main draw for me if they were pretty good fidelity. I suspect that they're probably gamed down though to facilitate the air racing aspect? 

 

To be honest it's really hard to tell so far.  I just read a post on the MSFS forums that someone was able to port the beta Mustang over to the "normal" sim install so they could do some free flight and that "it flies pretty good".  But in the Reno racing expansion, there actually is no time at all to acquaint yourself with the aircraft because of the arcade-style format they went with.  When you start a race, you are directed to a lobby that is nothing more than an automated taxi sequence from external view with no option to switch to internal view.  As players join, the number of planes taxiing to the runway (and eventually taking off by themselves) grows.  This all takes anywhere from 1 to 3 minutes and the race begins with a qualifying lap where you are immediately put in the cockpit and the plane is on the course at speed and position to pass the first of several pylons.  As soon as you complete the first lap it switches back to external view and there is another set of external views that occurs while you wait for the race to start, then same thing - bang you're in the cockpit trying to line up for the first pylon, and from that point forward you're focused completely on spotting the next pylon to line up on as you pass the current pylon, and so on for the next etc.   As soon as you pass the  last pylon on the last lap, bang you're back in external view looking at race results.  I hate to say it as someone who lives and for online air racing, but it comes off as being very "arcadey".

 

So there is just little to no time to look around inside the cockpit unless you want to abandon the race and go off course, at which point you get a whole bunch of annoying messages and automatic repositions back on the course.  Apparently from the teaser videos they went to a great deal of effort to provide beautiful and somewhat varied cockpit layouts for all the aircraft, but even with my TrackIR I don't dare look down at the panel to admire their hard work for fear of smacking the ground, missing a pylon, or having the annoying crew chief on the radio remind me that I'm going off course (another arcadey aspect - this guy on the radio telling me to stay smooth when I'm as smooth as they come, baby).  

 

Combat Box's Project R and the Co-op river racing missions we do here in IL-2 is miles better than what they came up with, seriously.   And I really didn't want to have to reach that conclusion.

 

[SYN_Vander]

1 hour ago, Stoopy said:

 

To be honest it's really hard to tell so far.  I just read a post on the MSFS forums that someone was able to port the beta Mustang over to the "normal" sim install so they could do some free flight and that "it flies pretty good".  But in the Reno racing expansion, there actually is no time at all to acquaint yourself with the aircraft because of the arcade-style format they went with.  When you start a race, you are directed to a lobby that is nothing more than an automated taxi sequence from external view with no option to switch to internal view.  As players join, the number of planes taxiing to the runway (and eventually taking off by themselves) grows.  This all takes anywhere from 1 to 3 minutes and the race begins with a qualifying lap where you are immediately put in the cockpit and the plane is on the course at speed and position to pass the first of several pylons.  As soon as you complete the first lap it switches back to external view and there is another set of external views that occurs while you wait for the race to start, then same thing - bang you're in the cockpit trying to line up for the first pylon, and from that point forward you're focused completely on spotting the next pylon to line up on as you pass the current pylon, and so on for the next etc.   As soon as you pass the  last pylon on the last lap, bang you're back in external view looking at race results.  I hate to say it as someone who lives and for online air racing, but it comes off as being very "arcadey".

 

So there is just little to no time to look around inside the cockpit unless you want to abandon the race and go off course, at which point you get a whole bunch of annoying messages and automatic repositions back on the course.  Apparently from the teaser videos they went to a great deal of effort to provide beautiful and somewhat varied cockpit layouts for all the aircraft, but even with my TrackIR I don't dare look down at the panel to admire their hard work for fear of smacking the ground, missing a pylon, or having the annoying crew chief on the radio remind me that I'm going off course (another arcadey aspect - this guy on the radio telling me to stay smooth when I'm as smooth as they come, baby).  

 

Combat Box's Project R and the Co-op river racing missions we do here in IL-2 is miles better than what they came up with, seriously.   And I really didn't want to have to reach that conclusion.

 

 

But surely if you buy into a Reno air race pack you can just fly the aircraft anywhere on the world just as any other aircraft? Outside a race that is?

[DD_Arthur]

26 minutes ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

But surely if you buy into a Reno air race pack you can just fly the aircraft anywhere on the world just as any other aircraft? Outside a race that is?

 

Yes, you will be able to when it gets released but the beta is a separate install at the moment.

 

I wonder if the beta represents what the final product will be or whether it’s limited to provide the information that Asobo are looking for - essentially a stress test?

[Stoopy]

38 minutes ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

But surely if you buy into a Reno air race pack you can just fly the aircraft anywhere on the world just as any other aircraft? Outside a race that is?

That is true according to what has been stated by MS/Asobo.  Right now though, for the beta test, a special build of the sim is used that only lets you do the air racing thing.  Starting a flight outside of a race is not an option.  So it's tough to evaluate the planes right now other than how well can they turn left.

 

I also am curious if liveries will be easily possible.  The livery selection in the race game part is limited to showing only the planes in the fixed pre-programmed lineup, not the usual menus for livery selection or other customization options.  You also cannot adjust fuel level or anything like that.  It's a closed box.  The aircraft are encrypted like other premium content, but we did get liveries for other premium planes like the KingAir and such after livery creators figured out how.  If so, we would only be able to use extra liveries in free flight, I expect.

 

So for anything but the racing content for the Reno course, it comes down to a choice in a way - get the T-6, P-51 and L-39 in a bundle for $19 with one livery each and fly them as you like, or wait for other possibly more robust and polished versions of these aircraft to be developed.  Surely we'll get high quality versions of the T-6 and P-51 by Milvis, FlyingIron or other developers.  And although Lotus isn't around to provide a version of their excellent L-39, I'm sure someone will pick up the challenge (maybe JustFlight to go with their new Hawk?).  Collectively they will cost more, like $90-$150 USD for all 3 collectively when you're done, but most of us with serious interest in them will likely buy them anyway.  So I think the $19 "Reno lite" version will do well.  But the $59 full-boat version that comes with 10 liveries for each bird?  I can't quite feature it.

 

After two days of doing the racing thing I did a nice long flight down the coast of So Cal with a gorgeous sunset using the latest build of the Airbus H145 helicopter.  It was nice to get away from the pre-programmed arcade cacophony of the Reno environment.  That's kind of another turn-off, the background audio aspects have a race announcer over a simulated PA system with all the heavy reverb and echo you'd expect, but his constant repeating dialogue gets old after 30 minutes,  And there's a crew chief guy that talks to you over the radio during the race but seldom offers useful information, just sterotypical race jabber like "They didn't see you comin' but they sure saw you passin'".  Thankfully by turning down the "environment" sound levels in the audio options menu they become less intrusive and you can focus on your flying (which, to be fair, you will need to do as they competition is very close and exciting, I'll give it that).  But otherwise if you can imagine attending the Reno Air Races with Gilbert Godfried and Fran Drescher on either side of you constantly talking at full volume, you get a feel for the audio experience...  

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Stoopy

[Pict]

5 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Bloody Celts.

 

 

I never thought of them as being particulariy tuff, they rolled over for the Romans after all, but he certainly looks hard enough, with his big...club 

 

3 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

That's gotta be the "Rocket Man" Elton John's singing about...

 

If he's not, then you can bet Elton John was singing about someone very like him 

[Pict]

9 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

I thought it was to do with the amount of chemical weapons and explosives that keep washing up on the shore there.

 

There was a fair amount of stuff dumped into the deep water out there after WWII, from what I've heard and some of it has come ashore. That's not the only utterly despicble thing they did in the area either.

 

During WWII some of the people in Whitehall had the notion that they would use Anthrax against the German people and actualy tested the stuff on Gruinard Island, between Gairloch & Ullapoool. It was called Operation Vegetarian in a particularly twisted manner, considering it's objective was to drop Anthrax laced linseed cakes on the German countryside so that the cattle would eat it and infect the population & destroy most of the meat supply.

 

The British government had zero intention of cleaning up the island ever, but in 1981 they were threatened by Scottish mililtant group, "Dark Harvest Commando" with Anthrax contaminated soil taken from the island. Clean up operations commenced almost immidiately.

 

Like the old corporal in Dad's Army use to say..."they don't like it up 'em"  Or as the Romans & the Angles & the Vikings would tell you, don't mess with the Picts 

 

23 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

There should always be a thread for good stuff.

 

That's it settled then, The Whisky Trail is now open 

 

 

22 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

There used to be a good spirits thread going here.

 

I'll take care of the bourbon side of things ?

 

 

Jump in anytime you like with your bottles of bourbon 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Pict

[Stoopy]

4 hours ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

But surely if you buy into a Reno air race pack you can just fly the aircraft anywhere on the world just as any other aircraft? Outside a race that is?

 

FYI as far as how the aircraft are, I took a closer look around inside as time allowed during races today and I'd say they are pretty much on par with Carenado or Asobo quality.  Nice, nothing to really write home, but clean and fresh.  Not on the same level as the MilVis F4U or FlyingIron P-38 though.  From a systems perspective, I wouldn't expect them to have much depth.

 

[9./JG27golani79]

Got the sim a few days ago - any recommendations flight model and system wise on good 3rd party aircraft (payware)?

 

Also if there are any free mods which are good I´ll gladly try them out.

 

[AndyJWest]

What sort of 3rd party aircraft are you after? GA? Vintage? Warbird? Boring aluminium tube?

[9./JG27golani79]

Preferrably Vintage / Warbird / Military Cold War era.

 

GA wise I haven't flown that much .. had the Accu-Sim Comanche 250 for FSX which I enjoyed very much though.

 

 

[AndyJWest]

Regarding payware, vintage-aircraft wise, the Blériot XI is well worth a look, if you are looking for something to show you just how hard it was, before they invented the rate of climb. ? There is also the Caudron C.430 "Rafale" if you are into 1930's French eccentricity, and the Ryan ST-A Special for something a bit more familiar from the same era.

 

The DC-6 probably counts as vintage, and if you are into early airliners, is highly rated by some. Not got around to it myself, as it is a complex beast, and probably merits more effort to get the best out of it than I'm able to put in. 

 

The best of the payware Warbirds is probably the FG-1D Corsair.

 

Don't think I've seen any cold-war-era military aircraft I'd pay money for yet.

 

There is a full list of third-party aircraft (payware and freeware) here, and your best bet is to look through it, and then look for reviews in the same subforum. Don't buy anything without checking reviews first though, as there is a great deal of crap out there. Freeware you can be a bit more open to, but even there you can find stuff that isn't worth the effort of downloading. I'll step in for Feathered_IV here, and recommend the DH89 Dragon Rapide as worth adding to your vintage collection, even if it is more or less just a FSX update, and rather basic-looking internally. Geoffery De Havilland knew how to make em look good...

Edited October 27, 2021 by AndyJWest

[9./JG27golani79]

Thanks Andy!

A few intersting suggestions .. gonna check them out and watch some videos / reviews.

 

Yeah, the DC-6 supposedly is a very nice module from what I've read but as you say it may be a bit complex. 

I am a bit tempted though .. 

 

Gonna stroll through your list and check out reviews ?

[ZachariasX]

10 hours ago, 9./JG27golani79 said:

Yeah, the DC-6 supposedly is a very nice module from what I've read but as you say it may be a bit complex. 

I am a bit tempted though .. 

It's a great module for MSFS. Although it has to be said that it is that great mostly because the competition generally leaves a lot to be desired. It is essentially the only complex payware addon that remotely reaches the standards set by more recent addons to P3D and the likes. That is it in a nutshell.

 

It is complex, but as you have a simulated flight engineer (if you want that) that does most of the delicate tasks for you, little time is required to just take her up.

 

FM is okay (I guess), but it is the looks that make a lot for it and the attention to detail, as almost everything of the systems are simulated, down to the circuit brakers. You can pop these and see what it does to your aircraft.

 

The absolute downside of the module is the way engines are modelled. So far it apprears that the SDK is limited such that proper supercharger behavior cannot be modelled. Manipulations of rpm and throttle only make sense during recommended settings on cruise, on take off it gets borderline and when you need or want to push the engines, then it's just... nothing as it should be. That's well known, even in the forum over there.

 

I don't know if the superchargers in the Spit or the Corsair do as they should. I can do with the DC-6 being particular that way, as the plane offers tons of other entertainment as well, but on a warbird... I'm not gonna risk a cent. And there has been no review covering that topic as people obviously can't be fussed about their engine. Even in Warbirds.

 

Engine damage is modelled. And they show you how quickly you can ruin a "robust engine" by not following recommendations of the manual. That's the good part about how the engines are modelled.

 

It really depends on what you want from a plane. Flying as such is not really interesting in such a big and stable aircraft. But making her go places can be a great challenge, as you have to look after a lot more things than flying just a Robin.

[9./JG27golani79]

Thanks a lot for your detailled posting - much appreciated.

 

Too bad that there is no A2A module out yet.

 

Seems like I'll have to do some more research before coming to a conclusion ?

 

[Stoopy]

On 10/27/2021 at 2:42 PM, 9./JG27golani79 said:

Preferrably Vintage / Warbird / Military Cold War era.

 

GA wise I haven't flown that much .. had the Accu-Sim Comanche 250 for FSX which I enjoyed very much though.

 

 

 

This might sound counterintuitive but you might want to look at the Milvis PC-6 Porter.  I also enjoyed the A2A Commanche 250 a great deal and although the aircraft are very different I find similarities in using and enjoying them from a system depth and flight perspective.  You dont get the A2A hangar with the persistent wear and tear modeling and upkeep, but you do get a great multifunction tablet in the cockpit and some interesting features unique to the Porter.  With MSFS being such a great Sim for bush and low to mid-level flying, it makes a great pairing.  Plus it's discounted at a reasonable $29 right now until later this month when a major update will be released with more options for floats and steam gauges, at which point the price goes up for the final version.  I'm currently exploring South America with it and enjoying just as much as the DC-6.

 

[ZachariasX]

38 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

This might sound counterintuitive but you might want to look at the Milvis PC-6 Porter.

Does turbine logic work correctly there?

 

[9./JG27golani79]

The PC-6 Porter Sounds interesting as well - gonna give it a look.

 

Seems like Milviz has some nice modules.

Corsair is looking good too - but alas the supercharger ain´t working there neither.

 

afaik it is because some limitation in the current SDK - which kinda sucks -.-

[Stoopy]

21 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

Does turbine logic work correctly there?

 

I'm not a turbine expert by any means so I cant say, but it certainly fires up and acts like all the turbines in other planes I've flown in various sims.

[9./JG27golani79]

Just found another review of the Milviz Corsair and it seems that there was an update regarding the supercharger:

 

 

edit: The PC-6 looks more interesting with every bit of info I get .. the only thing that bothers me a bit is its relatively low airspeed ?

Edited November 1, 2021 by 9./JG27golani79

[CUJO_1970]

Love these graphics.