Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[BOO]

7 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I am going through a rough treatment health wise, right now flightsim is showing its worth. A real escape from physical pain and real world problems. I have/ had a lot of hobbies like hunting and scuba diving. But flight sim hobby is one of the best diversions you ever get. And people laughing about it. Well they never know their loss

Im sorry to hear that Luse. I wish you my best. 

[Lusekofte]

 

wonder if this is worth it, so far I have not been impressed by the choppers 

 

Edited March 13, 2024 by Lusekofte

[BOO]

4 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

 

wonder if this is worth it, so far I have not been impressed by the choppers 

 

 

I happen to click a point in the video where its hovering as if its sat with on the tarmac with it engines off and FOD covers on and thought "no". Still feel DCS is place to go for choppa kicks. 

[Lusekofte]

31 minutes ago, BOO said:

 

I happen to click a point in the video where its hovering as if its sat with on the tarmac with it engines off and FOD covers on and thought "no". Still feel DCS is place to go for choppa kicks. 

I saw that too. The man reviewing it said it was amazing. He can’t really be that familiar with x plane and DCs standards. 

[BOO]

I've found a new favorite place. Leknes in Norway. An ASOBO bespoke airport. Im assuming its part of the XV world update as, graphically, the entire area looks great. Not so great (in a way) is the performance. Settings I could comfortably cruise over New York and London on are reduced to a stuttering mess in what, on the face of it, is largely wilderness. To a point where Ive reduced the graphics from DLSS SR Quality to DLSS SR balanced and largely Ultra setting to completely High End settings. 

 

What gives? Looking the the images on the lower settings I have to say they look as good if not better than some of the older WU areas do in Ultra settings so I can only assume there's something of a jump in textures and detail in the later WUs.  Anyone know for sure though?

 

Regardless, colour me happy. Some nice details like the fire engine that reverses into its own garage before the shutter doors close and an environment that is is absolutely stunning. Perfect for the Aquabeaver. 

 

Speaking of which- is anyone aware of an issue with either the default autpilot or even the default ao in the Beaver not working in NAV and APP modes?

[BOO]

Just on the off chance anyone else is finding the stock autopilot wont use the anaolog guages to slave NAV mode to , the workaround for the beaver was to use the cockpit  tablet to switch from analog to digital equipement, hit the bottom gamin units CDI key once and switch back.  Not sure its its a global issue with analog/digital cockpits or just the DHC2.  Anyhow - thats the workaround. 

 

Back to pretending to be Harrison Ford escaping the pressures of being Harrison Ford......

[AnPetrovich]

 

[ZachariasX]

37 minutes ago, AnPetrovich said:

 

 

NICE! Oh, my wallet...

[Lusekofte]

Due to shortage of disk space and lack of lust to install more just now. I uninstalled msfs. And this made me regret it for a moment

[CUJO_1970]

 

[CUJO_1970]

^^FM is pretty arcade. Doesn't feel like flying a real aircraft at all unfortunately.

 

GB 109 FM is 10X better. One thing the MSFS model does much better though is the slats popping out and the sounds they make.

[BOO]

6 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

^^FM is pretty arcade. Doesn't feel like flying a real aircraft at all unfortunately.

 

GB 109 FM is 10X better. One thing the MSFS model does much better though is the slats popping out and the sounds they make.

Perhaps but by heck its looks good!

 

On 3/27/2024 at 3:01 PM, AnPetrovich said:

 

 

I really need to find a way of getting my sim stuff out again.....

[danielprates]

Hello There! (In obi-wan's voice). Happy easter everyone.

 

Does anybody here own the Redwing Constellation? I've seen many yt videos about it, most say it is ok-ish but are not very clear about that. Most complaints seem to revolve around the more cosmetic stuff, which I don't care too much about anyway. The study level aspects I care about more, like engine management for instance, and on that are it seems to be pretty decent. 

 

Anyone here has it? I would sure like to hear some notes.

[DD_Arthur]

6 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

^^FM is pretty arcade. Doesn't feel like flying a real aircraft at all unfortunately.

 

GB 109 FM is 10X better. One thing the MSFS model does much better though is the slats popping out and the sounds they make.

Yeah, this is why I generally avoid military aircraft in MSFS.

WW2 fighters were simply flying guns housed in as small and light an airframe as possible, combined with a very, very powerful engine.

These sort of characteristics don’t really align easily with civil aircraft intended to be stable and docile….

[DD_Arthur]

59 minutes ago, danielprates said:

Anyone here has it? I would sure like to hear some notes.

 

I haven't got it but there are several vintage airliners available in the sim these days.

The PMDG DC6 is still in a class of it's own when it comes to systems fidelity and modelling - especially cockpit modelling - but the Connie has had several updates along the way and seems well regarded. Generally considered 'the best of the rest'.

 

 

Link to long discussion on Avsim about this bird. It goes from 'not impressed' when it came out in early access to 'hey, this is pretty good' over the course of it's development. 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/609972-l-1049-super-constellation-is-out/

 

What it's up against:

 

[danielprates]

9 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

I haven't got it but there are several vintage airliners available in the sim these days.

The PMDG DC6 is still in a class of it's own when it comes to systems fidelity and modelling - especially cockpit modelling - but the Connie has had several updates along the way and seems well regarded. Generally considered 'the best of the rest'.

 

 

Link to long discussion on Avsim about this bird. It goes from 'not impressed' when it came out in early access to 'hey, this is pretty good' over the course of it's development. 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/609972-l-1049-super-constellation-is-out/

 

What it's up against:

 

 

Thanks! Best of the rest eh? Well that's a compliment, kinda.

[Lusekofte]

12 hours ago, danielprates said:

Thanks! Best of the rest eh? Well that's a compliment, kinda

I personally never kind of got the hype about the Connie. But if it’s updated I have a very old impression of it. Personally I prefer DC 6 

It is vintage in a more modern way. And it got a B 17 feel about it with those gorgeous engines. 

[CUJO_1970]

On 3/31/2024 at 7:17 AM, DD_Arthur said:

Yeah, this is why I generally avoid military aircraft in MSFS.

WW2 fighters were simply flying guns housed in as small and light an airframe as possible, combined with a very, very powerful engine.

These sort of characteristics don’t really align easily with civil aircraft intended to be stable and docile….

 

Yes, I just couldn't help myself with the 109. But it is so arcade, lol.

 

I think the only way you get a decent warbird out of MSFS is to put as much work into the FM as A2A did with the Commanche. It's a shame because the visuals are so superb.

[Mtnbiker1998]

Took awhile for Asobo to fix the broken water masks post Carribean update, but now that they have I'm able to fully enjoy the new world update!! Planning myself a little Carribean adventure, with my first leg starting off from Miami to the Bimini Islands.

 

Given that I've been playing almost exclusively Falcon BMS lately, jumping back into MSFS and seeing these graphics in VR was... Wow!

 

[DD_Arthur]

A greenie into Sydney

 

 

 

[AndyJWest]

The Heatblur F-14 has been ported from DCS to MSFS.😎

 

 

No explodey fun stuff, needless to say, but a chance to see unfamiliar sights from a familiar cockpit. They've put a lot of effort into getting the thing as functional as possible in the less-than-ideal MSFS environment, and as long as you don't push it too far, the flight model seems reasonable enough.

 

If you already own the DCS F-14, they'll give you a discount if you buy direct: https://store.heatblur.com/products/msfs-f-14-tomcat

 

[AndyJWest]

My latest toy. Latécoère 631:

 

Autopilot - heading/altitude hold only, but it does the job. Rather necessary, in an aircraft with an endurance of over 24 hours. The modern GPS screen can be hidden, but with no radio navigation aids modelled, finding ones way around might be tricky. 

 

Downstairs.

 

One of the MSFS 'Local Legends', so dirt cheap, but better modelled than some of the full-priced stuff I've seen. Needs to be flown like the flying cruise liner it clearly is. 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2024 by AndyJWest

[Aapje]

 

IniBuilds has released Milwaukee Mitchell International Airport for free:

 

https://inibuilds.com/products/inibuilds-milwaukee-kmke-msfs

[Lusekofte]

I deleted the game after latest hickup. But the decision was based on a rapidly lack of disk space. I will see what 2024 brings. I might bite on that one and a new ssd 

[Blitzen]

Sometime in the far future and no news for a while, are there any VR B-17 sims perhaps in third party packages for  the MSFS?

[Lusekofte]

21 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Sometime in the far future and no news for a while, are there any VR B-17 sims perhaps in third party packages for  the MSFS?

We all hope for the A2A B 17 comeback. 
Any other I would be suspicious buying. 

[AndyJWest]

I felt like flying something different today.  No fancy stuff like a flight plan, and I took off from Lakenheath with a vague idea of finding somewhere less clouded-in to land. I'd got almost full tanks, so I'd got plenty of time. Heading west seemed sensible.

 

Cockpit has all the usual mod cons, and I managed to figure out the basics without anything more drastic than an overspeed warning - this thing has serious excess grunt.

 

After a bit of  bimbling about, I decided to take a look at the Mach loop, or at least, the bit over Llyn Mwyngil.

 

I think they usually fly it in the other direction, but since I'm likely to be bigger than anything coming the other way, that's their problem.  😉

 

I hadn't figured out how the thrust reversers were supposed to work, but RAF Valley has plenty of runway. The landing turned out a bit iffy though, because the HUD velocity vector didn't match the actual direction of flight in a crosswind - or at least, that's my excuse. 

 

The C-17 is a freebie:

https://flightsim.to/file/12408/msfs-native-c-17-globemaster

 

A work in progress, but the basics all seem to be there, at least for a seat of your pants flyer like me. I should probably do a little more research (i.e. on V-speeds etc) before flying it again.

[Ace_Pilto]

I could almost get my C152 up to takeoff speed in the cargo hold of that thing. Do you use Neofly? I've been using it lately and it gives the flights a bit more meaning/context. 

[AndyJWest]

53 minutes ago, Ace_Pilto said:

Do you use Neofly?

 

Nope. Not really my thing, since I don't fly MSFS with any real regularity, and when I do, it may involve anything from a Bleriot XI to a Latecoure 631, neither of which offer much in the way of career opportunities. I can see the merits of it though, if you get bored with just bimbling around.

 

Apparently the sim C-17 will do the thrust-reversers-on tactical descent trick of the real one, which I'll have to give a go: 12,000+ ft/min descents!

 

Edited May 26, 2024 by AndyJWest
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[Ace_Pilto]

Ahh, so you're a pure bimbler then. I generally need some kind of mission to stay interested, adding the element of continuity and progression makes the stakes higher and has me checking weather and looking up airport information etc. I do like the 152 since it affords me a lot of opportunities to bimble at 1,000ft or so over whatever bimblable scenery might be nearby.

 

12,000ft/min descents. No thankyou, I like my breakfast to stay inside until I get to digest it.

[Mtnbiker1998]

bimbling is a good word to describe my MSFS habits aswell! Pick a plane, pick and airport, and wander around until I get bored.

 

I actually enjoyed Neofly when I played with it, although I found it rather grindy to get anything done, I used a Database editor to give myself some more money at one point but of course that kinda killed my motivation to actually play the game... wish there were some multipliers or something to adjust earnings per mission! 

 

At this point, I think I'm just gonna hold off until I see what 2024 has planned for its built in career mode. plenty more bimbling to do until then!

[Ace_Pilto]

Yeah cheating money into a game where the idea is to progress by making money is a trap that many sadly fall into. You have to either enjoy the grind or find a way to disregard it and enjoy the factors that hauling cargo/pax adds. The aspect of management, survival, strategy and especially flight planning is what makes the grind bearable. Having a goal helps too, As I am working my way around Australia delivering fat tourists (fat ones pay more) and boxes of random crap, I am getting to know my aircraft. One day I'll be flying it, and others, through the mountains of New Guinea. This is where I will be headed next when I have earned enough to buy a suitable bush plane and built up enough hours to fly it competently.

 

This helps my brain turn my bimbling into a kind of role-playing game of emergent gameplay and self imposed restrictions.

 

It always bothers me with flight simulators that so many of them forget that Aircraft exist to work, not just to be ogled and have their switches flicked. Peversely, giving a simulation context makes it into a "game". It has to be sterile and overly technical to be a "pure" simulation which is a complete fallacy because if you remove the human element from flying, all you have is a physics based tech demo.

[Mtnbiker1998]

13 hours ago, Ace_Pilto said:

It always bothers me with flight simulators that so many of them forget that Aircraft exist to work, not just to be ogled and have their switches flicked. Peversely, giving a simulation context makes it into a "game". It has to be sterile and overly technical to be a "pure" simulation which is a complete fallacy because if you remove the human element from flying, all you have is a physics based tech demo.

 

Couldn't agree more there, thats why I gave up on DCS and switched over to Falcon BMS! Most of my sim time lately has been there, aside from occasional sightseeing trips in MSFS

[danielprates]

Neofly, huh? Interesting.

 

A2A got this right with the Connie and the Stratocruiser. There was an UI where you kept track of maintenance, passenger feedback and a track record of sorts. No economy to bother with but it gave a decent sensation that you were flying for a reason. Passengers would even scream if you horsed around at the controls, and complain after the flight - too much of those and the UI would state your reputation with the airline in unkind words.

[AndyJWest]

If I want to be told how useless I am, I'll get a real job, and get paid for it.

 

For the ultimate sim experience, the C-17 probably needs a vomit-smell-generator. I couldn't get the thrust reversers to work in flight, but even with just the spoilers open, it will safely descend at well over 10,000 ft/min. 😮

 

Been flying something a bit more sedate today:

[Lusekofte]

Thanks a lot. I am shaking of abstinence and on the verge to reinstall. 
I was planning to install 2024 when I moved to new house and put in a new ssd

[Enceladus828]

7 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

Been flying something a bit more sedate today:

Iconic aircraft right there. The day it was released I had plans to get the Connie but said “The Connie will just have to wait” and bought the Do-X.

[Ace_Pilto]

I'm waiting for DCS to mature and become a flyable game. I think it is finally getting close.

[DD_fruitbat]

I'm waiting for Microsoft flight simulator to become a flight simulator rather than 'Microsoft scenery simulator' (that part of it is amazing though).

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I'm waiting for Microsoft flight simulator to become a flight simulator rather than 'Microsoft scenery simulator' (that part of it is amazing though).

Well to me it is kind of neat. I make a recce flight in a Cessna over mountains I will go hunting or hike. It got the topography pretty nice. I tested kola map for the same. And they too was pretty close on that part except roads and houses. You have an idea what terrain you going to get.