Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[Enceladus828]

On 9/29/2023 at 9:04 AM, Lusekofte said:

The Boeing 247 catch fire and got a damage model. Same does the Comanche.

So does the Farman F.60 Goliath

 

[Lusekofte]

6 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

So does the Farman F.60 Goliath

 

I did not know about this plane…… hm?

[AndyJWest]

?

 

 

 

Probably flies better than it should, though rather prone to PIO/wobbles.

 

Free download: https://flightsim.to/file/62517/byob-2000-barrel-heli

 

[Lusekofte]

Wtf is that?

[AndyJWest]

2 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Wtf is that?

 

Helicopter. Noisy contraption that beats air into submission in order to leave the ground. ?

 

This one is fictional I hope, though there are plenty of YouTube videos about showing actual home-built rotorcraft showing less appreciation of basic physics, safety, or common sense. Few remain in one piece for long, but they can be quite entertaining to watch...

 

 

[Lusekofte]

This was a great buy

[danielprates]

On 10/25/2023 at 12:33 PM, AndyJWest said:

?

 

 

 

Probably flies better than it should, though rather prone to PIO/wobbles.

 

Free download: https://flightsim.to/file/62517/byob-2000-barrel-heli

 

 

I think I saw a movie in the 80s where three kids build this thing, fly into space and meet a couple of Aliens in their starship, and it turns out the aliens were themselves kids who stole their alien Dad's "spacecar".

[Customizer171]

On 12/5/2023 at 2:10 AM, Lusekofte said:

This was a great buy

That's not what most people think of when being told it's a B 17.

Saab B 17 ?

[DD_fruitbat]

On 12/5/2023 at 1:10 AM, Lusekofte said:

This was a great buy

 

I cant work out if I think that's ugly or pretty???

[Trooper117]

1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

I cant work out if I think that's ugly or pretty???

 

Fugly is the word, just fugly...

[Lusekofte]

Once the trousers are tucked up with the wheels it is actually pretty. 
those where intended as dive brakes. This plane is one of the best planes I flown in this sim. And it is most definitely the best vintage 40 era plane to fly 

[JimTM]

On 12/4/2023 at 8:10 PM, Lusekofte said:

This was a great buy

 

I wonder if there is room to grow tomatoes in that cockpit.  ?

Edited December 8, 2023 by JimTM

[AndyJWest]

38 minutes ago, JimTM said:

I wonder if there is room to grow tomatoes in that cockpit.  ?

 

No tomatoes in this greenhouse - they'd obscure the view. ?

 

Rudolf the red-nosed Rafale got some exercise today, in a Channel hop. Lydd to Calais-Dunkerque in live weather. Follow the coast to dover, then turn east-south-east. Not much of a flight plan, but why complicate things?

 

Rudolf is definitely VFR only, and there was some very low cloud on the French side, hence the low altitude. Had to dodge a shower, and by this point I was having to think about my options if the cloud got any lower. Worst case was turning back.

 

Made it to   Calais-Dunkerque ok, though my landing was less than optimal. The wind (15 kt or so) was straight down the runway, but my arrival wasn't, on account of the long nose. Next time, I'll fly a Corsair-onto-a-flat-top curved approach, so I at least stand a chance of putting my wheels on the tarmac, rather than 30 ft off to the side in the grass. ☹️

 

Safely tucked up, with nose-warmer to keep out the chill.

 

[Enceladus828]

Beautiful sunset at 37,000 feet (for the most part) while enroute from Los Angeles to Vail.

 

 

[Enceladus828]

Bought 1935 San Francisco Airport (KSFO) and did a flight in the Boeing 307 from San Francisco to Cheyenne before heading off to Chicago Midway. Flew over the Golden Gate Bridge before turning east for Cheyenne. Shows the bridge under construction.

 

[Enceladus828]

Final flight of 2023: took a Caravan on an early morning flight from Lappeenranta up to Rovaniemi, Finland.

 

Approaching Oulu.

 

Even though it's after 9am it's still night. On the left is a Wind Turbine Farm. Great looking sky.

 

Great sunrise as I land in Rovaniemi.

[Lusekofte]

[CUJO_1970]

[BlackBadger]

Did anyone try the BF 109G-6 For Microsoft Flight Simulator ?

 

Just wondering as I found some aspects of it are modelled quite nicely.

 

I love the sound and the very audible thumb whenever slats extend! Overall the sound is more "punchy".

 

https://flyingironsimulations.com/products/bf-109g-6-for-microsoft-flight-simulator

 

Worth a try and would love to have that thump sound in Il2.

 

 

[Hanu]

Torque of the plane was weird. Sure it should "roll" the plane too, but when I tested it was all rolling and not veering off as it should be. It did not feel right.
 

Perhaps I should try again, as I was planning to fly transfer flights from Erding/Wiener-Neustad to Helsinki, but my initial test was not so promising.

But sure, mine was just a quick test, you should not put too much weight on my opinion.

[BlackBadger]

Yeah i don't mean the overall FM. but just some parts of it like the slats mechanism etc.  I only dabble in MSFS as it's a pain to set up all properly.

[DD_fruitbat]

Microsoft doesn't do flight models, it does however do incredible visuals and a simply amazing recreation of the world.

 

I briefly toyed with getting the heatblur tomcat for it, until i asked someone who knows people who have both versions and what there opinions were vs the dsc version. Saved me some money!

 

 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Microsoft doesn't do flight models, it does however do incredible visuals and a simply amazing recreation of the world.

 

I briefly toyed with getting the heatblur tomcat for it, until i asked someone who knows people who have both versions and what there opinions were vs the dsc version. Saved me some money!

 

 

It suppose to be a good module in msfs standards. Just not up to DCs standards. Just one such plane I really grown to love is Saab b17. And I got a few under par military ac

looking what A2A did with Comanche it is in my point of view the plane developers responsibility to get a damage model and believeable flight model with interference from environment. I always blamed the sim for the lack of it. 

Edited January 22, 2024 by Lusekofte

[DD_fruitbat]

2 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

It suppose to be a good module in msfs standards. Just not up to DCs standards. Just one such plane I really grown to love is Saab b17. And I got a few under par military ac

looking what A2A did with Comanche it is in my point of view the plane developers responsibility to get a damage model and believeable flight model with interference from environment. I always blamed the sim for the lack of it. 

 

From what I've read, there is only so much the 3rd party developers can do with the tools available to them in Microsoft.

Edited January 22, 2024 by DD_fruitbat

[ZachariasX]

7 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

From what I've read, there is only so much the 3rd party developers can do with the tools available to them in Microsoft.

This is my impression as well. MSFS, still rooting heavily in FSX mainly offers internal tools for subsonic flight and simple engines. Going beyond that gets difficult.

 

A2A Simulations are rather special as 3rd party producer, as they compute their module entirely outside of MSFS with using their own tools, hence they are not limited as other pubishers are. They essentially habe their own simulation that reads the sim state, computes the state of the aircraft from that and injects the result back in MSFS.

 

I hope MSFS2024 will sort out such limitations, especially regarding engine technology and numbers, as well as trans- and supersonic flight.

[LukeFF]

11 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

A2A Simulations are rather special as 3rd party producer, as they compute their module entirely outside of MSFS with using their own tools, hence they are not limited as other pubishers are. They essentially habe their own simulation that reads the sim state, computes the state of the aircraft from that and injects the result back in MSFS.

 

Yes, every time I take up the A2A Comanche I realize how above and beyond it is to all other GA planes. Only the Milviz 310R comes close in my experience.

[Mtnbiker1998]

Comanche really is something else, no other plane in any flight sim comes anywhere close. Really curious to see what else they can do, I recall their P-51 in FSX was pretty highly regarded, would LOVE to see it with their new tech!

[ZachariasX]

13 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yes, every time I take up the A2A Comanche I realize how above and beyond it is to all other GA planes. Only the Milviz 310R comes close in my experience.

 

Scott at one point let himself be carried away by musing about how close they were to having their own simulator. Of course, right away everyone and their dog fantasized about how that would look like, much in a very same manner as we do here. But doing such wasn‘t his intention, I think he just expressed how extensive their flight modelling is that just reads all data from the „external“ MSFS, instead of bringing along it‘s own playpen. But clearly, all they needed to come up with a way of drawing a playpen and they would basically be there.

 

Still, it is impressive how the concept worked out. MSFS still has a lot of „just making a game around flying a Cessna“ in its DNA. Dumping a lot of that by just using the renderer and adding a much more advanced aerodynamic system is quiet bold. Also it took a long time to get there. Two years without even an anouncement of an announcement took a toll on their forum. That tells us how much of an unwanted child P3D really is.

 

They still have to implement „sim rate“ being functional. Currently, it just speeds up the aircraft in the sim, yet the time of the aircraft always runs normally.

[DBFlyguy]

 

[DD_Arthur]

 

Approach and landing into Innsbruck this morning with live weather.

 

Relevant to what's happening with 1CGS development at the moment; 

MSFS is based around a highly developed version of FSX. Admittedly Microsoft and Asobo have bolted a great deal of extras on in terms of streaming scenery, Blackshark A.I., Cloud saving, etc. but a great deal of effort has gone into development,  enhancement and optimisation of an old engine.

To their credit Asobo have invested heavily in new graphics techniques such as DLSS and frame generation.

 

My PC runs on a now thirteen year old 

i7 3930k and a six year old rtx2070. In the above video I'm getting over 70fps in external view and 55 in cockpit.

I'm using the Frame Generation option available in game.

Nvidia say frame generation is a feature only available on their (very expensive) 40 series cards.

I'm using a mod that enables this for 20 and 30 series cards. 

The point being; my ancient set up runs a start of the art flight sim more than adequately in my opinion. I see no reason why 1CGS cannot do the same for their own engine.

[LukeFF]

Been flying the iniBuilds A300 the past few weeks. Still has some issues but overall a lot of fun managing a plane that's not so fully automated like later Airbuses. ?

[Lusekofte]

I am not sure I got storage for the newest update. So I have not started it. 

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

I am not sure I got storage for the newest update. So I have not started it. 

 
The update that you download is ‘only’ around 670mb and is a World Update for the Caribbean. It sits in your game folder unless you choose to install it. 
If you choose to install, it’s around 11 gig!

[BOO]

After a 10 month lay off, Im sorta, kinda "flying" in the sim again, albeit like a millenial and using a x-box controller. Its not something i considered before and although t works ok for the most part, its no replacement for a stick, pedals and throttle. But the space they take and mess of drigging gear in o=and out of rooms means those are out of the window for me still. 

 

Whilst Im not finding it impossable and Asobo have done a decent job at finessing their defaul profile, it certainly requires a lot more care in trim and power management as well as paying attention to envonmental limits espeically with the floaty stuff like the Beaver. The C152 and C172 are somewhat more relaible. There are also some odd set up issues such as the RH stick not acheiving full movement range if I try to switch the main control stick axis to it. 

 

But.....

 

Its nice to have the option built into the game. 

 

 

[Mtnbiker1998]

Welcome back Boo!! your absence did not go unnoticed. I missed seeing your progress reports on your 'round the world flight. Hopefully we see some more pretty screenshots in here soon  

 

Having messed with it a bit, I agree that the xbox controller scheme is "decent" though like you said, definitely no substitute for a good hotas. Still, great for getting new people into the genre and we've seen how great thats been for flight sims as a whole the past few years! Hoping they continue the trend with 2024 with paving the way for accessibility and QOL in sims.

[BOO]

On 2/4/2024 at 5:14 PM, DD_Arthur said:

 

 

 

 

I'm using the Frame Generation option available in game.

Nvidia say frame generation is a feature only available on their (very expensive) 40 series cards.

I'm using a mod that enables this for 20 and 30 series cards. 

 

 

I tried the frame generation mod but it lead to  stutter and ghosting with head movement. Not the worst and I can see how someone in an airbus would benefit but not for me. That was with the joystick head movment and i suspect it would be even worse with head tracking. Unless I did something wrong. What it did do was make me use HAGS and, it seems, this is actually beneficial to my 5600X/3080 combo for once.

 

I also got the auto FPS/LOD freeware. Early days and its a bit stab in the dark if used with vsync in terms of what you ask of it but so far so good with previously stutter points gone at no discerable loss of quality and to a point (with FSLTL) where I can happily totter around a pretty stocked city airport at my required 60 fps with full Ultra settings (1080P mind) and TAA replacing DLSS. Perhaps in the past 10 months the game has also improved its efficiency as well?

 

The xbox controller does limit what i can fly enjotably but fortunately my favoite  Club Crafter CubX's and the great GotFriends mods of them seem made for it. 

 

Looking forward to what MS2024 brings but, for now 2020 still puts a smile on my face. 

[Lusekofte]

Unfortunately, I cannot do without proper flight controls. I care less about vr and graphics 

But the feel of proper flight is essential. I guess you are more of an aviation guy than me. 
It is very few planes in this sim that really get me exited. But those who do please me much. 

[LukeFF]

I'm also using the Auto FPS mod and am really enjoying the performance improvement. 

[BOO]

7 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Unfortunately, I cannot do without proper flight controls. I care less about vr and graphics 

But the feel of proper flight is essential. I guess you are more of an aviation guy than me. 
It is very few planes in this sim that really get me exited. But those who do please me much. 

Sadly its necessity rather than choice that forces my hand. Significantly less immersive and satisfying but far better than option B which is no sim at all. And as much as I tell myself i can do without simming, truth is, its something i enjoy too much.

 

I doubt the Cub crafters are realistic in their FM to any fine degree but they are easy to fly in respect of its forgiving to a thumb stick and it puts a smile on my face in the same way the Hip does in DCS.  Ive found the DHC2 (which is my overall favorite) just too much handle with a little stick when the wild wind blows.

 

4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

I'm also using the Auto FPS mod and am really enjoying the performance improvement. 

 

I think its worth a little tinkering but, for now, it works well. I understand theres a more involved LOD mod out there too but, for my set up, it seems the ground is all i need to worry about.

 

 

[Lusekofte]

13 hours ago, BOO said:

Significantly less immersive and satisfying but far better than option B which is no sim at all. And as much as I tell myself i can do without simming, truth is, its something i enjoy too much

I am going through a rough treatment health wise, right now flightsim is showing its worth. A real escape from physical pain and real world problems. I have/ had a lot of hobbies like hunting and scuba diving. But flight sim hobby is one of the best diversions you ever get. And people laughing about it. Well they never know their loss