Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[CUJO_1970]

Love this beast:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LukeFF]

^The Fighter Pilot Podcast just recently uploaded an interview with a USAF Caribou pilot who flew during the Vietnam War. Absolutely incredible what sort of missions they flew.

[CUJO_1970]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

^The Fighter Pilot Podcast just recently uploaded an interview with a USAF Caribou pilot who flew during the Vietnam War. Absolutely incredible what sort of missions they flew.

 

It's functionally beautiful - they just threw aesthetics out the window and decided to just build the most useful aircraft possible...and out popped the Caribou.

[Veteran66]

SHORT STIRLING for MSFS 2020

 

https://secure.simmarket.com/virtavia-short-stirling-msfs.phtml

 

nice WW2 Plane

my wish:

add historically working Bomber sight and Optic to drop the Bombs.
For the Bombs add red smoke so the player can see where the Bombs hit (you know it is a civil flight sim).
After this we get a new gameplay in MSFS 2020

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Veteran66

[ZachariasX]

20 minutes ago, Veteran66 said:

SHORT STIRLING for MSFS 2020

What is your impression of it? Did you buy it?

Edited March 18, 2023 by ZachariasX

[Veteran66]

yes i buy it, Cockpit is ok sound too

[LukeFF]

And on we go: Borg El Arab Intl (HEBA) to Marsa Alam Intl (HEMA). Time to do some sightseeing!

 

We were up and at it early in the morning at HEBA. No one seemed to mind that we had left the plane in a helicopter parking area, so we taxied out like nothing happened and were on our way:

 

 

Naturally, with this being Egypt, I made sure our flight route took us within sight of the pyramids:

 

 

Once south of Cairo, the landscape opens up into desert wilderness:

 

 

Eventually, we reached the mountains, where the turbulence kicked up again and I had to take manual control to keep a downdraft from plowing us into the side of a mountain. At least the scenery was beautiful! ? 

 

 

Once clear of the mountains we made our way down to HEBA, where we parked without incident and parked next to a handful of commercial airliners (courtesy of the FSLTL mod, a must-have, and it's free):

 

 

Once again, the turbulence made for an uncomfortable ride, but it was manageable, along with the somewhat considerable crosswind coming from the west. 

 

On to the east across Saudi Arabia...

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, Veteran66 said:

yes i buy it, Cockpit is ok sound too

Instant buy for me. I will fly supplies to resistance groups with it 

[ZachariasX]

Despite multithread DCS is making me click together obscenely dense missions to air my Twatwagen, now that MSFS works again (somewhat), it is just amazing how great just going places is in MSFS.

 

 

Sunset just off Addis Ababa, at 14k ft. What you need there to not "get landed".

[Lusekofte]

Now when Stirling arrived. I will fly from a strip they operated from or close by. And see if I can reproduce some of its missions. Always had a soft spot for the Stirling, Wellington and Halifax all glory goes to the Lancaster

[Trooper117]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

I will fly from a strip they operated from or close by.

 

Then you should fly missions from Stoughton Airfield, (now Leicester Airport)... in the bar they have pics of the Stirlings that flew from there.

It was my local airfield for awhile, I was flying Cessna 152's and 182's from there.

 

Me in a 182...

 

 

Stoughton today (Leicester Airport, EGBG, LRC)

 

 

 

 

[Lusekofte]

1 minute ago, Trooper117 said:

Then you should fly missions from Stoughton Airfield, (now Leicester Airport)...

Saved me from some Googling there. Many thanks ?

[Trooper117]

Thinking about it though, today the runways may not be long enough to get a Stirling up, lol!

[JimTM]

FYI, there's a nice post on the Short Stirling, with some good pictures and references to a couple of books here and here.

[LukeFF]

Off we go, on what proved to be another bumpy ride across the sands of the Middle East: Marsa Alam Intl (HEMA) to Prince Mohammad Bin Abdulaziz Intl (OEMA), in Medina, Saudi Arabia (real-time and weather):

 

Another windy day on the ramp as we prepared to head out, flanked on our left by a handful of commercial airliners:

 

 

Takeoff was nothing abnormal, but it wasn't long before I realized this was going to be a really long flight with lots and lots of turbulence. It really didn't let up the whole way across the Red Sea and into Medina:

 

 

At least for our troubles, we were again afforded a nice view once over the Arabian Peninsula:

 

 

Because of the extremely bumpy ride and constantly changing altitudes, I wasn't able to manage my fuel flow like I'd been able to before, so all the way into OEMA I was gritting my teeth and hoping we'd have enough fuel to make it. Then, once we landed the illustrious ATC gave us some bizarro taxi directions that didn't really match up with the taxi charts. Even so, I was able to get the plane to our assigned parking spot with about 4.5 gallons of fuel in each tank. Yeesh. ? Hopefully the next leg isn't nearly as bad as this one: I think my pals are getting quite tired of the bumpy ride in the back.

 

[Lusekofte]

You can drop bombs

[Lusekofte]

Just to say something about the Stirling. 
First, I need to check if somehow flight assist or something is switched on. 
If not the fm is completely off. Aircraft lift like a balloon during takeoff without flaps. Even loaded with bombs. 
sideslips but steady in every way. With little trim you can let the yoke go and steady she goes. 
I will test if this improves if it is possible to load it manually. 
internal it is quite nice. Externally like a plastic model. Simplified startup, not sure if you can ruin your engines at all, simplified autopilot. Complexity as GB with partly click pit. I won’t fly this much if I cannot get it a bit more demanding

Edited March 20, 2023 by Lusekofte

[LukeFF]

Sim Update 12 coming tomorrow morning at 8am Pacific Time. ✈️??

[LukeFF]

Sim Update 12 Release Notes: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/release-notes-sim-update-12-1-31-22-0-available-now/582408

 

 

[Gingerwelsh]

On 3/20/2023 at 8:39 AM, Lusekofte said:

I won’t fly this much if I cannot get it a bit more demanding

 

If the upcoming Vulcan is anything like the FSX version, then your wish for something more demanding, will come true.

 

..

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Gingerwelsh said:

 

If the upcoming Vulcan is anything like the FSX version, then your wish for something more demanding, will come true.

 

..

Demanding is just a bad expression due to bad English vocabulary. Exterior should have signs of oil leaking radials and exhaust. Totally lifeless in turbulent weather and is like driving a car in a new paved Asphalt. And probably no penalty for abusing engines. I really mean my first impression of this , it should be a free mod not a payware. 
it give you nothing. I expect more at this time

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

I expect more at this time

 

Get the Milviz 310R - it has all of those things that you want. ??

[Mtnbiker1998]

10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Get the Milviz 310R - it has all of those things that you want. ??

The 310 comes up in just about every discussion about third party aircraft on the internet, and for good reason. Its a really well done plane. The extra options for ownership/wear and tear and the works are just icing on the cake. Really shows what the Flight Sim genre is capable of being if people put the effort in.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

The 310 comes up in just about every discussion about third party aircraft on the internet, and for good reason. Its a really well done plane. The extra options for ownership/wear and tear and the works are just icing on the cake. Really shows what the Flight Sim genre is capable of being if people put the effort in.

 

Yep, and it sounds like the Comanche from A2A is going to bring a similar level of detail. It's another one I'm eagerly anticipating. ??

[Hoots]

6 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yep, and it sounds like the Comanche from A2A is going to bring a similar level of detail. It's another one I'm eagerly anticipating. ??

I’m hoping the A2A stuff will knock the 310 (which I love) out of the park. 

[9./JG27golani79]

On 3/22/2023 at 2:10 PM, Hoots said:

I’m hoping the A2A stuff will knock the 310 (which I love) out of the park. 

imo for FSX the planes from A2A had better quality than the Milviz ones which I also enjoyed.

 

Also looking forward for the Comanche which was great already in FSX

Edited March 23, 2023 by 9./JG27golani79

[Lusekofte]

I want A2A B 17 

[JimTM]

4 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I want A2A B 17 

 

Is that a virus or a vitamin?  

[Lusekofte]

23 minutes ago, JimTM said:

 

Is that a virus or a vitamin?  

I call it a virus. 
can’t get rid of the urge

[Veteran66]

Transall C160 for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

 

 

 

[Lusekofte]

Damn that looked great

[LukeFF]

And on we go: Pr Mohammad Bin Abdulaziz Intl (OEMA) in Madinah to King Khaled Intl (OERK) in Riyadh. Real-time of day and weather. First flight after Sim Update 12 and the revised turbulence.

 

Another bright and windy day on the apron as we prepared to depart OEMA on our eastward journey. Startup and taxi were uneventful (other than the issues with the taxiway signs not matching the real-world charts ?), and soon we were on our way:

 

 

En route, we had a 20-knot tailwind and some bumpy weather, but after this last update, it was much more manageable. Lots of bleak, empty desert as we flew east, punctuated by the occasional large patches of red sand:

 

 

The terrain changed a bit as we approached Riyadh, and we were subjected to some more bumpy weather as we came in for our final approach. It was pretty bad once we picked up the ILS signal, so much so that I had to take manual control to keep us on course. And then, the oh-so-wonderful ATC reared its ugly head again: with no aircraft in sight in front of me, the ATC told me to go around (a common problem from what I see on the MSFS forums). Nah, sorry, not doing that.

 

I was scolded after I touched down, but I made my way to the GA parking area (again trying to decipher the signs in-game vs the charts), and we made it to the parking area after an eventual 15 or so minutes on the final approach. ? 

 

 

So yes, it was another bumpy ride, but with the new turbulence model, it was much more manageable. Now, if they would just fix the idiotic ATC AI and messed-up taxiway signs. 

[BOO]

Just a general question. I have a 5600x and 3080 with 32gb ram. Playing at 1080p 2D would this be enough to shift the sim at decent levels of graphical fidelity? 

[Lusekofte]

I honestly believe you can fly vr smoothly with that. It is remarkably little demanding. 
what can be demanding is all the sudden problems coming with the software once installed. And it is a huge dl. 
But man this is the one sim I always keep

Edited March 25, 2023 by Lusekofte

[Hoots]

57 minutes ago, BOO said:

Just a general question. I have a 5600x and 3080 with 32gb ram. Playing at 1080p 2D would this be enough to shift the sim at decent levels of graphical fidelity? 

I’m going with yes and it will look fantastic. 

[DD_Arthur]

53 minutes ago, BOO said:

Just a general question. I have a 5600x and 3080 with 32gb ram. Playing at 1080p 2D would this be enough to shift the sim at decent levels of graphical fidelity? 

You’ll have no problems whatsoever.

I run it on my twelve year old i7 3930k, overclocked to 4Ghz, with 16gig of ddr3 and an nvidia rtx2070 on a 1440pp 32” screen.

MSFS represents a step change in what can be achieved with older hardware

and has a whole host of graphic settings to play with.

 

A healthy internet connection helps a great deal.

 

 

 

[BOO]

Thanks chaps. Having a pretty rough time in RL so a little distraction and fewer explosions may be exactly what I need in between hospital vigils. 
 

Appreciate the quick replies. 

Thanks chaps. Having a pretty rough time in RL so a little distraction and fewer explosions may be exactly what I need in between hospital vigils. 
 

Appreciate the quick replies. 
 

NEXT SILLY QUESTION

 

which version and what are the essential packs I should get. I’m going to be light GA and bush flying until such a time an mi8 appears. 
 

thanks. 

[DD_Arthur]

I got the supa dupa deluxe everything version from the Microsoft store when it was released.

If I were doing it again I’d buy the bog standard edition from Steam and then consider the vast amount of freeware available from a site called Flightsim.to and carefully consider individual purchases of hi-fidelity 3rd. party planes that are available.

 

What Luke is flying around the world is a good example of these.

 

Oh yeah, to avoid disappointment, I would avoid warbirds that you are familiar with from DCS or IL2.

MSFS is about the whole flight experience; scenery, weather, navigation.

This is what it excels at. 

[Hoots]

Yeah I got the deluxe or whatever the top one is when it was released. I don't use 90% of the stuff I would think. I'm using the 310 and waiting for the A2A stuff.

[BOO]

Going standard. Thanks for the help.