Conflict with CH pro throttle and CH Throttle Quadrant

[pilotpierre]

I have been using CH Pro Throttle, Combat stick and Rudder Pedals for years trouble free.

I had CH throttle quadrant delivered yesterday, purchased specifically for the BoS twin engine aircraft.

 

My intention was to continue to use the Pro Throttle for single engine and use the quadrant for the twins assigning throttles, mixtures and prop pitches to Engine1 and Engines 2.

 

I tried it out on the RoF twins but found that I had to unassign the pro throttle to use twins, and unassign the quadrant throttle engine 1 & 2 to use the single pro throttle.

 

I then set up BoS but found the same thing, it doesn't like the pro throttle being used while engine 1& 2 throttles are assigned to the quadrant.

 

Also mixtures and prop pitches are all over the place with both throttles assigned. But if I unassign one (throttle) throttle, they work ok.

 

Is this how they are supposed to work?

 

Additionally I can only get 95% throttle on the quadrant after many attemps to assign it?

[Phant0m]

Well, I can't be too much help but; for the last question, you will need to calibrate the throttle using the CH software and it should work ok. One way forward might be to use the mode switching on the pro throttle - when you are in a 2 engine plane you switch modes and it disables some axis'.

 

I should say I have never needed the mode switching so I haven't had a good play around with it. Good luck anyway.

[pilotpierre]

Mode switching? I'm not in front of my PC at present, but how do you access that?

[Sokol1]

One of these  buttons on front of CH PRO Throttle (under fingers) can be used as MODE selector - the three LEDS on throttle base.

 

Using CH Manager an setting modes  you can activate/deactivate, exchange/invert axis with click...

 

Manager "gurus" are there:

 

www.ch-hangar.com

 

Sokol1

[Charlo-VR]

Hi Pierre,

 

I think this may be a case where you have to use the (often dreaded) Control Manager software, but hopefully minimally.  Phantom is probably right that you need to calibrate it, and as far as I know, that requires using Control Manager.  Fortunately, that's really easy to do.

 

Once you have all your devices recognized in Control Manager, you may also have to change the Mode to either Direct or Mapped Mode and see if one of those modes allows you to use both the Throttle Quadrant and Pro Throttle simultaneously.  This is different from the modes Sokol described (I think). 

 

Sokol is right that the folks at  www.ch-hangar.com are really helpful.  I've found answers and posted questions that were answered promptly.

 

I'm sorry if you end up having to use the Control Manager software, since I didn't think it would be necessary.  I use it myself, as much as I can understand it, so perhaps that's why I have my Throttle Quadrant and Pro Throttle working fine together.  Then again, I don't have any throttles mapped to the axis on my Throttle Quadrant, just mixture and radiators.  

 

Good luck, and perhaps we'll run into each other on Teamspeak while on an MP server.  

 

Charlo

 

P.S.: check out Control Manager for Dummies - Volume III at http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/index.php/files/file/109-control-manager-dummies-guide/ , which has helped me out.  I also refer to 

Edited April 3, 2014 by Charlo

[pilotpierre]

Thanks for the responses guys ang the PM Charlo.

 

I checked the CH-hangar forums for anything yo do with the throttle quadrant problems and funnily enough most of them don't really get an answer. I also posted there and am waiting for some thoughts.

 

I had another read of the idiots guide to the control manager and it still looks daunting, clearly I am a bigger idiot than those the guide was written for. Plus it only covers up to Vista, windows 7 doesn't rate a mention.

 

Although I have all the twins in RoF I don't fly them so I won't use the quadrant for that.

 

I'll wait until the Peshka is released in BoS and initially (as a work around) disable one of the throttle devices while using the other. If I get sick of that. I'll bite the bullet and try the CM.

 

The only motherboard port I had in the back of the PC was a blue USB 3 port so that key be the cause of the problem??? I have a couple of USB ports in the front of the PC but after having to reconfigure all 4 CH devices when they lost their settings when the quadrant was initially plugged in - I am not ready to go through the evolution of redoing all 4 controllers for 2 flight sims again just yet.

 

So until we get a twin in BoS I'll just use the quadrant levers for prop pitch and mixture.

[sallee]

watching this with interest. I'm in exactly the same boat.

[pilotpierre]

Sallee, log onto the CH-Hangar forum and the top one in general discussion is a response to my thread there.

[sallee]

Thanks. I've had a look there and I'll try the manager. Hope it works for you.

[pilotpierre]

Well my fears were well founded. I downloaded CM and ran the application.

Opened the aplication to Calibrate the quadrant. It just sat spinning its wheels until i got the prompt the application is not responding

Started TiR, Couldn centre it.

Started BoS, no devices were working and couldnt make any inputs.

Had to do a PC System resore to get TiR and CH devices working again.

Got a prompt after the restore to say couldnt do a complete restore.

Luckily everything is working again but all the CM files/application etc are still in the CH file.

Before everything went to crap I checked Devices/CH and the quadrant actually got a mention. Since the resore its back to Auxiliary Device1 and Aux device 2

I did not disable McAfee prior to running the application on advice from McAfee who said that requirement is way out of date and PLEASE do not disable it for any reason???????

[Sandhill]

Well my fears were well founded. I downloaded CM and ran the application.

Started TiR, Couldn centre it.

Started BoS, no devices were working and couldnt make any inputs.

 

When you run CM for the first time (this happened to me just last night) it oddly enough renumbers all of your buttons vs what Windows had them as (it might just renumber your controllers so that Joy0 becomes Joy1 etc), so your Input folder for Bos is effectively toast.  Same with TrackIR.  You can, though, simply redo (in game) your controls for BoS and TrackIR and be back to where you were without CM.  At that point you have gone through a bit of work and accomplished nothing, but with CM installed you can leave all your controllers plugged in and almost instantly switch map to map, have one map using TQ and not Pro throttle, another map the opposite etc,

Edited April 4, 2014 by Arnaud_Amaury