von_Michelstamm Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) What do you guys recommend as of 2019? Open to building one if it isn't too involved. heck, make it $2000. Edited August 9, 2019 by von_Michelstamm
jarg1 Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 What type of monitor/VR set are you planning to use?
TheOldCrow Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Building is gonna be your best bet, I've out about $750 into my custom built and I have almost every setting maxed out running around 60-80 fps. I'd recommend looking into the new gen 3 Ryzen 5 3600 and pair it with a Nvidia gtx 2070 or 2080. Have atleast a 750w power supply and some higher frequency ram as Ryzen plays well with high speed ram. After that the rest including case and hard drives and motherboard is up to you. I currently run a Ryzen 5 2600 with a Radeon Rx 580, 650 modular Corsair power supply, 16 gb of Corsair ballistics 3000 MHz Ram, a Seagate 1 tb hdd and a tomahawk b450 motherboard. I'd do some research and planning into a build in Amazon or PC parts picker if you need help with making sure everything works together. 1 2
von_Michelstamm Posted August 10, 2019 Author Posted August 10, 2019 Thanks 4 hours ago, jarg1 said: What type of monitor/VR set are you planning to use? I’d ideally like to be able to run vr in a year or two. for monitor, something big and wide (currently have 1920 ) Also, come to think of it, I don’t just want graphics maxxed, I want to be able to play career with heavy frontline activity too.
jarg1 Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Is the price of the monitor included in the total? For example, while I play IL-2 in VR, I use a 4K TV as my monitor. But the VR headset will run several hundred dollars as will a VR headset. You can build a very nice PC for $1500-2000, and as mentioned above a nice budget PC for a lot less.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, von_Michelstamm said: Thanks I’d ideally like to be able to run vr in a year or two. for monitor, something big and wide (currently have 1920 ) Also, come to think of it, I don’t just want graphics maxxed, I want to be able to play career with heavy frontline activity too. It's easy to max out Il-2 well under $2000. However, if you want to go all-in and get the ultimate reasonable gaming system, the answer is simple i9-9900K RTX 2080 Ti 16 GB of fast RAM (e.g. 3200 CL15) Motherboard with strong VRMs if overclocking, else any Z390 board will do fine NVMe SSD for storage If you just want a system that can run the game smoothly on a 4K monitor, get something like Any Ryzen 3000 series or unlocked 8th or 9th generation Intel CPU RX 5700 or RTX 2070 graphics 16 GB RAM SSD storage Unfortunately, it's really hard to predict anything about VR "in a year or two". These things change so quickly that I have no idea how current hardware will hold up. Edited August 11, 2019 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
Alonzo Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 12:32 AM, von_Michelstamm said: I’d ideally like to be able to run vr in a year or two. for monitor, something big and wide (currently have 1920 ) Also, come to think of it, I don’t just want graphics maxxed, I want to be able to play career with heavy frontline activity too. IL2 is often CPU-bound when trying to hit high framerates in VR, and that will be a factor too for running heavy frontline (lots of AI). I would suggest you stick to Intel CPUs because they have better frequency than the AMDs. It's difficult to recommend something that is future-proof, for example you could get something now that would work for your non-VR purposes and then in two years hardware is going to be way better. Why do you say "a year or two" for VR? If you're going Intel I would suggest the 9700K as a good high-end chip, you need good liquid cooling (240mm, 280mm or 360mm AIO) for good overclocking, you need a good motherboard with good power delivery, and you need low-latency RAM such as 3200mhz-CAS14 or 3600mhz-CAS16. Hard drive doesn't matter as long as it's SSD (avoid NVMe, it's just needless expense that doesn't benefit gaming). Then your final question is GPU. If you're not doing VR today, I would suggest getting a GPU that's just good enough for 2D, so maybe an NVidia 2060 or something like that. I'm not an expert on GPUs for 2D IL2, maybe someone else can comment there. If you upgrade for VR in future you can sell the GPU and drop in a new fancy powerful one when the time comes.
simfan2015 Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) $1500 ? Prices in the US sure are quite different from those in Europe ! The higher-end Build that I assembled (on a shop's website) would cost me around 3000 EURO (+3000 USD), especially for gaming at 4K Ultra (and a good 32" UHD monitor). Even if you can build a PC now for say, 1000 USD, 3 years from now it will be quite useless, for gaming @ +60FPS anyway. VR ... only best rig is OK according to everything I read (especially for DCS). RTX 2080 Ti 16 GB of fast RAM (e.g. 3200 CL15) ... only those 2 items already equal +1500 USD. Now, maybe for IL-2 @ 4K VR that $1500 may be sufficient though, dunno, but otherwise ... Regards Stefaan Edited August 11, 2019 by simfan2015
SCG_Fenris_Wolf Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 Put 1500/2000 into BTC or Gold and walk out when you got 2500. Then we talk ☝️? P.S. Stay away from AMD for the time. Not because their CPUs would be bad, but because most games (especially in VR, and not just legacy games) are not optimized for so many threads. The main threads are just too damn huge. 1
Dutch2 Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) That all depends, if you are not an overclocker you could consider the new AMD Ryzen series, but if going to overclock, which actually is very simple these days, go for Intel. I would suggest my VR setup I did buy after an research and asking info here. i 7-9700k or the i7-9700KF with or without an iGPU, Gigabyte Aorus pro, it has the best VRM setup in the midrange motherboards RAM get 2x8Gb >3200mhz and never above Cl16, see the RAM compatibility list at the Gigabyte site, my experience do not buy RAM that is not listed by Gigabyte for that specific board. Vcard get an RTX2080super or much better the RTX2080ti or to be released RTX2080ti-super as can be read on some sites. Edited August 19, 2019 by Dutch2 1
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