Are there any more ways to bomb with the stuka/il2 (1942) than dive bombing?

[saintbrutal]

was wondering if there are another way to approach a target to bomb..  while dive bombing is effective it has its cons.. specially if the area your attacking  happens to have some enemy cap. 

 

though in the 1943 version of il2, they have indication of release points with  drawn lines in their nose, enabling you to do  level bombs at low alt. But in the 1942 version, sadly there isn't any indication ( any experience guys here manage to find their sweet spot reference ? ) and i only own the BoS, so im currently limited to what modules i  can play.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

High speed low level level bombing. 

Dropping bombs at near flat angle at near VNE at just above trees. 

 

Edited August 9, 2019 by =TBAS=Sschatten14

[saintbrutal]

3 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

High speed low level level bombing. 

Dropping bombs at near flat angle at near VNE at just above trees. 

 

 

 

what does VNE means?

[ZachariasX]

11 minutes ago, MechSauce said:

what does VNE means?

It‘s that red line on your speedometer that says „DON‘T!!“.

 

4 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

Dropping bombs at near flat angle at near VNE at just above trees. 

Alternatively, you can land and taxi up to your target, drop the bomb and then find out all the ways to take off in 5 seconds.

[RedKestrel]

1 hour ago, MechSauce said:

 

 

what does VNE means?

"Velocity, Never Exceed" 

[RedKestrel]

1 hour ago, ZachariasX said:

 

 

Alternatively, you can land and taxi up to your target, drop the bomb and then find out all the ways to take off in 5 seconds.

Just pop open the canopy and detach your harness before you drop the bomb. You'll get airborne!
/well, parts of you.

[ZachariasX]

44 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

Just pop open the canopy and detach your harness before you drop the bomb. You'll get airborne!
/well, parts of you.

How ingenious. Hadn‘t thought of that, but no you have given me an idea about what to try when I‘m back at my gaming rig. We should try altitude records, but normalized. Say, in the SC1800 class. For fairness sake.

[RedKestrel]

29 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

How ingenious. Hadn‘t thought of that, but no you have given me an idea about what to try when I‘m back at my gaming rig. We should try altitude records, but normalized. Say, in the SC1800 class. For fairness sake.

Also have to make sure consistent altitude, air temperature and wind!
/axis dudes get catapulted much too far by explosions, devs plz nerf

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Whats with all the silly and rude comments people..
(He just asked a normal question, not everybody is a Fighter Ace.)

What does landing on the ground and taxiing plane to kill things have to do with high speed low level attack. 
 

[ZachariasX]

11 minutes ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

What does landing on the ground and taxiing plane to kill things have to do with high speed low level attack. 

Both use cases are equally reasonable.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

What one is playing normally
the other is being silly and exploiting the simulator and messing around.
Also very much a bannable offence for bad sportsmanship. (on most servers).

i think very few players are that low they would do that specially bomber pilots.
we are not talking about fighter jocks who have some ego issues. 
 

[ZachariasX]

It should be ok being silly. Not a good idea taking too much of that online.

 

But as far as the Stuka is concerned, there are 3 ways to do business: Steep dive, shallow dive or adding 37 mm cannons. The latter made Rudel really famous after some initial fame by sinking the Marat. Other than that in CAS, speed kills (your aim). The Stuka was a good plane for that, because it is slow.

[Chief_Mouser]

On ‎8‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 6:31 PM, ZachariasX said:

But as far as the Stuka is concerned, there are 3 ways to do business: Steep dive, shallow dive or adding 37 mm cannons. The latter made Rudel really famous after some initial fame by sinking the Marat. Other than that in CAS, speed kills (your aim). The Stuka was a good plane for that, because it is slow.

 

Shallow dive is best when weather conditions aren't favourable for traditional dive-bombing.  From what I've read it was employed at Kursk quite successfully. Go in towards the target at about 1000m altitude and push the nose down when the target disappears beneath it. I then drop my bombs visually, i.e just in time to pull up and skim over the target's heads! Don't forget to set a bomb delay or you will be toast.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Red_Cat

[easyTarget]

Well I was wondering the same. I have just flown the scripted campaign in sturmovik plane 1943 and i kept in formation of 4 planes, when we reached target my group didn't dive at all and just dropped bombs and hit the artillery position, i didn't expect that, so i passed the target turned and dived in and did some passes with my bombs and canons, my fellows pilots were already on their way home to home base, so yes they do it level bombing the AI but i have no idea how. There  must be some manual how far from target and how high you have to fly to hit it.

I just find post where they answered my questions heres the video to give more of a visual idea of what im asking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9zW8cYKBYw

Edited August 19, 2019 by easyTarget

[saintbrutal]

On 8/9/2019 at 8:32 AM, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

High speed low level level bombing. 

Dropping bombs at near flat angle at near VNE at just above trees. 

 

 

 

hey late reply here :) how do you do, low level level bombing on the il2/stuka ? what  parameters do you use, such as indicators ( for example, you use the compass instrument to determine when you release bombs ) 

 

also by any chance do you have any videos of this? ty!

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

you get a feel for it and experience there is no gauge or tool in cockpit to help you other than knowing your speed, 
and right place to release the bomb. 

Many videos of blind bombing without a sight at high speed,
Even in HE111.