The_Math_Teacher Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Flights in multiplayer are great, a lot of fun, but... if you fly on the german side, and want to reach the other base, you always have to fly towards the sun and it's not funny because it really hurt the eyes, the only available solution is to maneouver your plane to hide the sun with the cockpit bars or something else. Curiously all the flight simulators I've played (I'm not saying I've played of all them) none of them have this option, and I wonder why, real pilots use sun glasses for this reason, so why virtual pilots can't. Really hope the devs have it in their list of features to add, and this is the only thing I don't like in the sim, everything else is fine. Greetings 4
Death1111 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I had the exact same thoughts, though I do not think it is a bad thing, I think the sun effect is modelled great in the sim. Will definately make you be careful of the Hun in the Sun 1
The_Math_Teacher Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 When a screen pc simulates at 100% sun light I'll do it, meanwhile virtual glasses will be fine I agree, sun is great is the sim, but if we have a virtual sun, why can't we have virtual sun glasses?
HagarTheHorrible Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 No you can't have sunglasses. The sun might be bright, but it's not that bright, and the glare effect is still confined to a fairly limited area. Whatever the accuracy of the sun's modelling is, it is a device, with a purpose. It provides a place to hide either when you are attacking,or being attacked, it provides another tactical element to the game, one that is especially useful if icons are used because it provides the slimiest possibility of tactical surprise. So no you can't have sunglasses and make the glare from the sun pointless 3
Finkeren Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 On the other hand, I do want the recticle dimmer on the Revi gunsight to be modelled. 4
Brano Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I have to try today when back from work,I mean real sunglases,if it helps 1
Georgio Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 You can have sunglasses when we can have our Yaks in MP, until then we need any help we can get....
W_Braun Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I don't see why sunglasses would be a bad idea. We like to call this a simulator and it's supposed to simulate what a pilot experience in the cockpit, countermeasures as well. Guess what, many (or most?)pilots in WW2 had sunglasses. I vote 'hell yeah' on this one. Shouldn't be much harder to incorporate than opening or closing the canopy. Maybe not a first thing to do but if this sim evolves like it's promising to do, I see a future with various lighting conditions as a great next step. 1
Brano Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I doubt if soviets had them. Maybe those lucky one flying cover in Yak9 for fortresses during http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Frantic It was maybe possible to echange sunglasses with american personel for vodka,women...
The_Math_Teacher Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) No you can't have sunglasses. The sun might be bright, but it's not that bright, and the glare effect is still confined to a fairly limited area. Whatever the accuracy of the sun's modelling is, it is a device, with a purpose. It provides a place to hide either when you are attacking,or being attacked, it provides another tactical element to the game, one that is especially useful if icons are used because it provides the slimiest possibility of tactical surprise. So no you can't have sunglasses and make the glare from the sun pointless I disagree, this a simulator not an arcade game where you have to decide what should and what doesn't should be in the game just to balance gameplay, if we follow that philosophy then this can't be called a simulator... For that reason sunglasses exist, to allow the pilot to improve visibility, so If you don't like it, don't use it... You can have sunglasses when we can have our Yaks in MP, until then we need any help we can get.... Good news, there is a server where you can fly the Yak, and it's a fine opponent for the 109... Where are my virtual sunglasses I doubt if soviets had them. Maybe those lucky one flying cover in Yak9 for fortresses during http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Frantic It was maybe possible to echange sunglasses with american personel for vodka,women... In the case soviet pilots or al least not all of them have it, that will make this sim even more realistic... LOL... yes you can trade for it, why not Edited March 31, 2014 by JAG 1
sturmkraehe Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) It's a sim in a competitive environment. Let's imagine we had sunglasses eliminating the sunglare. EVERY pilot in MP would use it permanently otherwise he would be at disadvantage. The devs could have as well just implemented a fair dot representing the sun then and giving everything a darker tone per default. If you still cannot understand that I don't know how to explain you this better. EXCEPT: If sunglasses are coming with a disadvantage only then it might work. And only then. I would then suggest to make distant dot spotting impossible or at least many times harder that without glasses so each pilot can choose which disadvantage he thinks is acceptable. The draw distance of planes could be strongly reduced for instance and the contrast between planes and background reduced. When we're talking about making this a realistic sim then to the fullest please with all consequences. Edited March 31, 2014 by sturmkraehe
arjisme Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Note to self: take trip to snowy mountaintop, put on sunglasses and stare at sun. Note whether I can do so or not without going blind.
The_Math_Teacher Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Right now at the office, but found a couples of pictures of german pilots wearing tint goggles, I'll post them later. Greetings It's a sim in a competitive environment. Let's imagine we had sunglasses eliminating the sunglare. EVERY pilot in MP would use it permanently otherwise he would be at disadvantage. The devs could have as well just implemented a fair dot representing the sun then and giving everything a darker tone per default. If you still cannot understand that I don't know how to explain you this better. EXCEPT: If sunglasses are coming with a disadvantage only then it might work. And only then. I would then suggest to make distant dot spotting impossible or at least many times harder that without glasses so each pilot can choose which disadvantage he thinks is acceptable. The draw distance of planes could be strongly reduced for instance and the contrast between planes and background reduced. When we're talking about making this a realistic sim then to the fullest please with all consequences. I think you don't understand my point, firts of all to think that EVERY pilot will be using it permanently is ilogical, at least in my case I plan to use it only when necessary, for example during a flight route and not in combat, however if some pilot want to use it from the moment he starts in the runway to the moment he land, I have no problem with that... That thing of competitive is nothing more than gameplay balance, and again this is a simulator not an arcade game... And to finish you don't have nothing to worry about because if this gets implemented I'm sure it could be enabled or disabled in the server seetings and there will be many servers with the "competitive enviroment" you need to fly, but let the other players enjoy it at least in case it gets real Edited March 31, 2014 by JAG
sturmkraehe Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) My suggestion: Lower the brightness of your screen And again: If sunglasses should be installed they should come with all related disadvantages such as reduced contrast making spotting more difficult. Otherwise I have to assume that you simply look to have a workaround for something (the sunglare) that is bothering you because you think it makes things more difficult. Edited March 31, 2014 by sturmkraehe
The_Math_Teacher Posted March 31, 2014 Author Posted March 31, 2014 My suggestion: Lower the brightness of your screen And again: If sunglasses should be installed they should come with all related disadvantages such as reduced contrast making spotting more difficult. Otherwise I have to assume that you simply look to have a workaround for something (the sunglare) that is bothering you because you think it makes things more difficult. First I have to say that I used the term "sunglasses" incorrectly, I was trying to talk about goggles used during flight, and not the kind of "goggles-sunglasses" that you wear on the ground to look cool with the chicks... sorry for that, english is not my first language Exactly, I could not agree more with you, I'm not asking for unrealistic tint goggles that let you spot enemy planes like an eagle, if we get them, they should be with all the advantage and disvantages relative to the goggles available at that time on both sides.
71st_AH_Hooves Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 You can have sunglasses when we can have our Yaks in MP, until then we need any help we can get.... Hint: YAKS ARE in MP, just find the right servers. SHHHH I didnt tell you that
W_Braun Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.ima-usa.com/british-ww2-raf-spitfire-fighter-pilot-goggles-flip-sun-shield-one-only.html
johncage Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 why are people against realism and authenticity for a sim? i don't get it.
arjisme Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 First I have to say that I used the term "sunglasses" incorrectly, I was trying to talk about goggles used during flight, and not the kind of "goggles-sunglasses" that you wear on the ground to look cool with the chicks... sorry for that, english is not my first language Exactly, I could not agree more with you, I'm not asking for unrealistic tint goggles that let you spot enemy planes like an eagle, if we get them, they should be with all the advantage and disvantages relative to the goggles available at that time on both sides. Makes sense to me, keeping in mind that goggles and/or sunglasses won't have the clarity of the naked eye. And goggles will impact peripheral vision a bit too. 1
Mastermariner Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Yes, we can all be jockeys and have Ray Bans in two weeks, be sure, AND on top of that have the trim on a slider! (Very few will get the puns.) Seriously, I fail to remember ever having seen a Russian pilot with sunglasses, even up to modern days. American, yes maybe even a German or two but no Russian. Master 1
LynxNot Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 To be honest IRL i get headache if I don't wear sunglasses on bright days. In this game I get the same headache and i really thought to play with real sunglasses
s8n Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) i get headaches when playing a lot too so i really started wearing sunglasses when needed and you know what? IT HELPS! lol it really helped me see the planes in the sun better...my wife of course laughed her ass off at me but i played with them on about an hour the other day and i'll use them when i need em you can bet on it :D Edited April 4, 2014 by ForTheThrill 1
Sternjaeger Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Luftwaffe pilots were issued the famous Splitterschutzbrille goggles which were attached to the helmet and proved very effective. I know of at least a couple of warbird operators that still use them! http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,239198352,var,very-rare-Luftwaffe-N-G-Rathenow-splitterschutzbrille-flight-goggles,language,E.html
Sokol1 Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) The Wiki say that this thing improve your vision... Sokol1 Edited April 18, 2014 by Sokol1
s8n Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 @raaaid The only reason i don't do that is ,on my setup if you do that it makes color and the way shine on certain things change. So when i get it to where it looks good i don't mess with it past that...In other words if i change something on one game, then if i go on to another game, the look is all off. So when i find a happy middle i leave it
EdwardTheGreat Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 THere should be sun shields for the revis... at least. dont know if extra sunglasses are a problem in combat.
FTC_crash1983 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 how about being able to use pilots hand to shield eyes at the moment i'm using cockpit struts and nose of plane.
AceRevo Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Game is MENT to be challenging and FUN.. when you got a tail you SHOULD be able to lose him in the sun.. When youre chasing you should be able to lose your target in the sun for a little challenge! just my opinion though..
39bn_pavig Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Try these. I have no idea if they work but I have heard good reports... And they're computer glasses, so won't mess with your "simulation" worries... After all, you are sitting in front of a computer. http://www.gunnars.com
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