pa4tim Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 From a few hundred meter up to at least 3,45 km my Tiger hits 2 mill to much to the right. Is this due to parallax or a "bug" ? I would expect a parallax caused deviation to the right upto some convergent point and to the left beyond that. I can set the range but I can not adjust horizontal like I can in Russian tanks. A side question, how can I do rang finding in the Sherman ? The triangles of the tiger are 2 and 4 mill, I use a table to convert that to distance, the KV1S seems to have a distance scale to measure/convert tank height in km. The Sherman has nothing other as using the MG ?
Finkeren Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, pa4tim said: Sherman has nothing other as using the MG ? Correct. The manual directly states to use the coaxial as a rough aiming devise. Beyond the useful range of the MG, you are supposed to guess and correct based on where the first shot lands.
Yogiflight Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, pa4tim said: From a few hundred meter up to at least 3,45 km my Tiger hits 2 mill to much to the right. Is this due to parallax or a "bug" ? I would expect a parallax caused deviation to the right upto some convergent point and to the left beyond that. I can set the range but I can not adjust horizontal like I can in Russian tanks. There is no convergence, they are parallel. So you should always place your aiming mark half a meter left of the spot, you want to hit. BTW how do you observe this in 3.45km distance?
pa4tim Posted July 21, 2019 Author Posted July 21, 2019 Nothing scientific. I just did a quick mission. There where 4 howitzers far away. I measured the range by shooting and adjusting the crosshair until the howitzer was dead. With that setting I killed all 4 of them. I had to aim 2-3 mil to the right to hit them. The distance behind the triangle tops should be 4 mill . That is data I found a while back when I used the same crosshair in Warthunder) And if I use that scale on the shooting range mission, results are so that I think this is correct. 1 mill is 1 meter at 1000 m so 2 mil at 3000m is 6m (if I do the calculation correct) And 2 mil at 500m should be 1 meter. If the sight is exact parallel it should be something like the 50 cm you mention, at any distance. I have not measured all the distances because I always have to aim around 2 mill of. But after shooting the howitzers I was surprised I had to aim the 2 mill as well. And because the other tanks have adjustable X-axis I wondered if the Tiger has one too hidden somewhere. (tank controls are not yet "optimal")
Yogiflight Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Your calculations are correct. No the Tiger, as all german tanks I think, didn't have an adjustable X-axis for the gun sight. You don't really need it, except for targets passing from left to right or vice versa. The gunner knows he has to aim a little left of the spot he wants to hit. And on larger distances the wind is much more something to be concerned about, than this fifty centimeters. BTW I don't care about those mils to know where to aim at the enemy tank, I just guess what is half a meter, this is not too difficult, you know how large those tanks are.
SCG_Slater Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 Me too, I got it by a rough estimation, sometimes it's spot on, other times it's a bit too short and to the right.
pa4tim Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 I "measure" the hight of the tank in mil and then use a table to set the range. Most times the first shot is spot on and if not I go from there by aiming higher or lower and then readjust the crosshair. I use the horizontal triangles only as reference when shooting a colonne of moving vehicles but sometimes also for range-finding.
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