Jade_Monkey Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Here are some tank pics from my visit to the American Heritage Museum, which opened recently in Hudson, MA. T34/76 T-34/85 Panther Hertzer M4A3E2 Sherman "Jumbo" Sherman AAA Halftrack Pershing IS-2 StuG III SU-100 Cromwell I Churchill Crocodile Bf109 G10 18 1
Jade_Monkey Posted July 4, 2019 Author Posted July 4, 2019 I was most shocked by how muich bigger the Panther was compared to what I imagined. I always thought it was a bit narrower. Also surprised by how small the Hertzer is. 1
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Was there a couple of weeks ago. Very impressive. Great photos!
Finkeren Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Those are some really great pictures, splendid colors and sharp contrast. Good photography work there, those conditions do not seem ideal for a photoshoot. And I just gotta say it again: Going by pure aesthetics, the T-34-85 is just the most beautifully formed tank of WW2, such perfect, smooth, simple lines and wonderful proportions. 12 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said: I was most shocked by how muich bigger the Panther was compared to what I imagined. I always thought it was a bit narrower. Also surprised by how small the Hertzer is. Guess you've never been a scale modeler. I first had this revelation, when I built my first Panther at age 11. Even in 1:72 it's huge, and seems to dwarf even the Tiger I. Many people consider the Panther an aesthetically pleasing tank, but I have to disagree. The huge, oddly angled bulk of the main body with that silly little turret and freakishly long, spindly gun perching on top, it's just fugly! On the contrary, the Jagdpanther is in my top 5 for best looking WW2 AFV. The Hetzer is just - not right. Fitting 4 people in battle gear in there is just a crime against humanity by itself. I see this pop up on lists of "best AFVs of WW2" all the time, clearly made by people who have never sat in one or seen it up close, and likely based on nothing but the fact, that it sorta looks kinda cool.
Feathered_IV Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Thank you so much for sharing the photos. The exhibits really are very beautifully presented.
Tyberan Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 That museum looks great, seeing though you get right up to the tanks. The little vignette style displays look awesome.
pilotpierre Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 They can’t be real, none of them are weathered. But thanks for posting anyway. 1
bzc3lk Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 I really like the concept of placing the tanks on a Vignette with snow, grass and dirt, never seen that method used before for full sized armoured vehicles in a museum.
wombatBritishBulldogs Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 Regarding the Sherman Tank ! Is that the big gun on that or the smaller caliber ? firefly comes to mind or is that an english tank !
Finkeren Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 22 hours ago, wombatBritishBulldogs said: Regarding the Sherman Tank ! Is that the big gun on that or the smaller caliber ? firefly comes to mind or is that an english tank ! The Jumbo Sherman in the photos has a regular 75mm. The "normal" Sherman is a 76mm. You can call that the "big gun", it certainly was a much more effective anti-tank weapon, but for size it is a far cry from the 17 pounder on a British Firefly.
wombatBritishBulldogs Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/29/2019 at 4:51 PM, Finkeren said: The Jumbo Sherman in the photos has a regular 75mm. The "normal" Sherman is a 76mm. You can call that the "big gun", it certainly was a much more effective anti-tank weapon, but for size it is a far cry from the 17 pounder on a British Firefly. This is where i got confused ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Firefly
69th_chuter Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) On 7/28/2019 at 1:37 AM, wombatBritishBulldogs said: Regarding the Sherman Tank ! Is that the big gun on that or the smaller caliber ? firefly comes to mind or is that an english tank ! The Sherman (M4A3E8) shown is armed with the 76mm M1A2. The Jumbo (M4E3E2) has it's original 75mm M3, although they were sometimes upgunned in the field. All nominal versions of the Sherman were available with the 75mm M3 but some M4A3s came from the factory with the 76 which used a longer barrel either without a muzzle brake as the 76mm M1 (<-- gun designation) or with a cylindrical two baffle brake as the 76mm *M1A1C or M1A2 (<-- those are gun, not tank, designations) but not to be confused with the 17pdr with globular single baffle muzzle brake on the Firefly which was used by the UK. Some M4A1s, M4A2s and additional M4A3s (<-- those are tank designations) were upgraded with the 76 (ex. M4A1(76)W and M4A2(76)W. *Gun M1A1C delivered with threaded barrel and thread protector but no muzzle brake, which was to be installed when available later in the field. At some point everything in Army life is an M1. Edited August 4, 2019 by chuter I thought both Shermans were the same - wow. Huge correction, I see Finkerin got it right on his first pass - lol. 1
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